New bike lane on Old Georgetown Rd in Bethesda

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Anonymous wrote:Is there more than one person that keeps accusing people of defending the bike lanes of not living in the county? I live right off OG and do not know how to ride a bicycle. I support the bicycle lanes because they make the neighborhood safer for the community.
I am on that road every single day walking or driving or both and have not noticed appreciably different traffic. (I can remember years when it took 15 minutes to go a mile up OG to get my kids to 6 pm religious Ed, so it’s not like the traffic backup is new.).
I have seen many people using the bike lanes and none of them look like lance Armstrong. They are mostly families going to/from the Y or getting to the trolley trail, some retirees out for exercise, some people that look like they are going to work at NIH, and some older kids or teens going to friends’ houses. Going up to pike and rose this weekend I saw several young couple riding to/from that development.
I don’t know where the PPs are getting the stereotype of the aggro lance Armstrong wanna bes, but that’s not what I’m seeing. If the lanes stay. I expect use will increase.

To reiterate, I can’t ride a bike myself, but I like seeing others being able to safely do so.

You will be happy to know that the bike lanes are in the process of being reevaluated and will not stay the way that they are. Since you are a county resident, I would assume that you would know that.

Not the top PP. I'm glad to hear it. The bike lanes really do need some improvements, especially around the interchanges. They also need something more solid to protect the people in them. Maybe jersey walls? Those bendy plastic posts don't do much.

They currently have the flex posts plus a 6 foot buffer. If cyclists don’t feel safe with a 6 foot buffer then nothing will make them feel safe and we should stop trying to design infrastructure around peoples feelings.

Many sidewalks also have 6-foot buffers, plus curbs, and yet cars regularly end up on the sidewalk.

I am going to need an example of a sidewalk with a 6 foot buffer that ended up having a car regularly end up in it. Or you just made this up, which is more likely. Nice imagination though.

If you walk on sidewalks next to arterials, you will see a lot of wreckage from car crashes. You can't see when you drive by, but it's there. It's also common for car crashes to end up on top of people who are waiting on the sidewalk, like the Kennedy High School kids on Georgia Avenue in Aspen Hill, or the doctor on Connecticut Avenue in Kensington, or the family on Old Georgetown Road in Bethesda.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there more than one person that keeps accusing people of defending the bike lanes of not living in the county? I live right off OG and do not know how to ride a bicycle. I support the bicycle lanes because they make the neighborhood safer for the community.
I am on that road every single day walking or driving or both and have not noticed appreciably different traffic. (I can remember years when it took 15 minutes to go a mile up OG to get my kids to 6 pm religious Ed, so it’s not like the traffic backup is new.).
I have seen many people using the bike lanes and none of them look like lance Armstrong. They are mostly families going to/from the Y or getting to the trolley trail, some retirees out for exercise, some people that look like they are going to work at NIH, and some older kids or teens going to friends’ houses. Going up to pike and rose this weekend I saw several young couple riding to/from that development.
I don’t know where the PPs are getting the stereotype of the aggro lance Armstrong wanna bes, but that’s not what I’m seeing. If the lanes stay. I expect use will increase.

To reiterate, I can’t ride a bike myself, but I like seeing others being able to safely do so.

You will be happy to know that the bike lanes are in the process of being reevaluated and will not stay the way that they are. Since you are a county resident, I would assume that you would know that.

Not the top PP. I'm glad to hear it. The bike lanes really do need some improvements, especially around the interchanges. They also need something more solid to protect the people in them. Maybe jersey walls? Those bendy plastic posts don't do much.

They currently have the flex posts plus a 6 foot buffer. If cyclists don’t feel safe with a 6 foot buffer then nothing will make them feel safe and we should stop trying to design infrastructure around peoples feelings.

Many sidewalks also have 6-foot buffers, plus curbs, and yet cars regularly end up on the sidewalk.

I am going to need an example of a sidewalk with a 6 foot buffer that ended up having a car regularly end up in it. Or you just made this up, which is more likely. Nice imagination though.

If you walk on sidewalks next to arterials, you will see a lot of wreckage from car crashes. You can't see when you drive by, but it's there. It's also common for car crashes to end up on top of people who are waiting on the sidewalk, like the Kennedy High School kids on Georgia Avenue in Aspen Hill, or the doctor on Connecticut Avenue in Kensington, or the family on Old Georgetown Road in Bethesda.

You are the one that claims that there are all of these sidewalks with 6 foot buffers that are unsafe. And yet you cannot name a single one. It’s almost like you just made this up.

I will say it again, we are now past the point of designing infrastructure around peoples feelings. If a six foot buffer is not good enough for cyclists to “feel safe” then nothing will be good enough.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there more than one person that keeps accusing people of defending the bike lanes of not living in the county? I live right off OG and do not know how to ride a bicycle. I support the bicycle lanes because they make the neighborhood safer for the community.
I am on that road every single day walking or driving or both and have not noticed appreciably different traffic. (I can remember years when it took 15 minutes to go a mile up OG to get my kids to 6 pm religious Ed, so it’s not like the traffic backup is new.).
I have seen many people using the bike lanes and none of them look like lance Armstrong. They are mostly families going to/from the Y or getting to the trolley trail, some retirees out for exercise, some people that look like they are going to work at NIH, and some older kids or teens going to friends’ houses. Going up to pike and rose this weekend I saw several young couple riding to/from that development.
I don’t know where the PPs are getting the stereotype of the aggro lance Armstrong wanna bes, but that’s not what I’m seeing. If the lanes stay. I expect use will increase.

To reiterate, I can’t ride a bike myself, but I like seeing others being able to safely do so.

You will be happy to know that the bike lanes are in the process of being reevaluated and will not stay the way that they are. Since you are a county resident, I would assume that you would know that.

Not the top PP. I'm glad to hear it. The bike lanes really do need some improvements, especially around the interchanges. They also need something more solid to protect the people in them. Maybe jersey walls? Those bendy plastic posts don't do much.

They currently have the flex posts plus a 6 foot buffer. If cyclists don’t feel safe with a 6 foot buffer then nothing will make them feel safe and we should stop trying to design infrastructure around peoples feelings.

Many sidewalks also have 6-foot buffers, plus curbs, and yet cars regularly end up on the sidewalk.

I am going to need an example of a sidewalk with a 6 foot buffer that ended up having a car regularly end up in it. Or you just made this up, which is more likely. Nice imagination though.

If you walk on sidewalks next to arterials, you will see a lot of wreckage from car crashes. You can't see when you drive by, but it's there. It's also common for car crashes to end up on top of people who are waiting on the sidewalk, like the Kennedy High School kids on Georgia Avenue in Aspen Hill, or the doctor on Connecticut Avenue in Kensington, or the family on Old Georgetown Road in Bethesda.

You are the one that claims that there are all of these sidewalks with 6 foot buffers that are unsafe. And yet you cannot name a single one. It’s almost like you just made this up.

I will say it again, we are now past the point of designing infrastructure around peoples feelings. If a six foot buffer is not good enough for cyclists to “feel safe” then nothing will be good enough.

Look up those crashes, why don't you? They critically injured real people. Your fellow residents of Montgomery County.

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Out of county people arguing about things that they don’t understand is hilarious.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there more than one person that keeps accusing people of defending the bike lanes of not living in the county? I live right off OG and do not know how to ride a bicycle. I support the bicycle lanes because they make the neighborhood safer for the community.
I am on that road every single day walking or driving or both and have not noticed appreciably different traffic. (I can remember years when it took 15 minutes to go a mile up OG to get my kids to 6 pm religious Ed, so it’s not like the traffic backup is new.).
I have seen many people using the bike lanes and none of them look like lance Armstrong. They are mostly families going to/from the Y or getting to the trolley trail, some retirees out for exercise, some people that look like they are going to work at NIH, and some older kids or teens going to friends’ houses. Going up to pike and rose this weekend I saw several young couple riding to/from that development.
I don’t know where the PPs are getting the stereotype of the aggro lance Armstrong wanna bes, but that’s not what I’m seeing. If the lanes stay. I expect use will increase.

To reiterate, I can’t ride a bike myself, but I like seeing others being able to safely do so.

You will be happy to know that the bike lanes are in the process of being reevaluated and will not stay the way that they are. Since you are a county resident, I would assume that you would know that.

Not the top PP. I'm glad to hear it. The bike lanes really do need some improvements, especially around the interchanges. They also need something more solid to protect the people in them. Maybe jersey walls? Those bendy plastic posts don't do much.

They currently have the flex posts plus a 6 foot buffer. If cyclists don’t feel safe with a 6 foot buffer then nothing will make them feel safe and we should stop trying to design infrastructure around peoples feelings.

Many sidewalks also have 6-foot buffers, plus curbs, and yet cars regularly end up on the sidewalk.

I am going to need an example of a sidewalk with a 6 foot buffer that ended up having a car regularly end up in it. Or you just made this up, which is more likely. Nice imagination though.

If you walk on sidewalks next to arterials, you will see a lot of wreckage from car crashes. You can't see when you drive by, but it's there. It's also common for car crashes to end up on top of people who are waiting on the sidewalk, like the Kennedy High School kids on Georgia Avenue in Aspen Hill, or the doctor on Connecticut Avenue in Kensington, or the family on Old Georgetown Road in Bethesda.

You are the one that claims that there are all of these sidewalks with 6 foot buffers that are unsafe. And yet you cannot name a single one. It’s almost like you just made this up.

I will say it again, we are now past the point of designing infrastructure around peoples feelings. If a six foot buffer is not good enough for cyclists to “feel safe” then nothing will be good enough.

Look up those crashes, why don't you? They critically injured real people. Your fellow residents of Montgomery County.

Do those sidewalks have six foot buffers? Yes or no? You don’t even seem to know but it’s clear that you just like making things up.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there more than one person that keeps accusing people of defending the bike lanes of not living in the county? I live right off OG and do not know how to ride a bicycle. I support the bicycle lanes because they make the neighborhood safer for the community.
I am on that road every single day walking or driving or both and have not noticed appreciably different traffic. (I can remember years when it took 15 minutes to go a mile up OG to get my kids to 6 pm religious Ed, so it’s not like the traffic backup is new.).
I have seen many people using the bike lanes and none of them look like lance Armstrong. They are mostly families going to/from the Y or getting to the trolley trail, some retirees out for exercise, some people that look like they are going to work at NIH, and some older kids or teens going to friends’ houses. Going up to pike and rose this weekend I saw several young couple riding to/from that development.
I don’t know where the PPs are getting the stereotype of the aggro lance Armstrong wanna bes, but that’s not what I’m seeing. If the lanes stay. I expect use will increase.

To reiterate, I can’t ride a bike myself, but I like seeing others being able to safely do so.

You will be happy to know that the bike lanes are in the process of being reevaluated and will not stay the way that they are. Since you are a county resident, I would assume that you would know that.

Not the top PP. I'm glad to hear it. The bike lanes really do need some improvements, especially around the interchanges. They also need something more solid to protect the people in them. Maybe jersey walls? Those bendy plastic posts don't do much.

They currently have the flex posts plus a 6 foot buffer. If cyclists don’t feel safe with a 6 foot buffer then nothing will make them feel safe and we should stop trying to design infrastructure around peoples feelings.

Many sidewalks also have 6-foot buffers, plus curbs, and yet cars regularly end up on the sidewalk.

I am going to need an example of a sidewalk with a 6 foot buffer that ended up having a car regularly end up in it. Or you just made this up, which is more likely. Nice imagination though.

If you walk on sidewalks next to arterials, you will see a lot of wreckage from car crashes. You can't see when you drive by, but it's there. It's also common for car crashes to end up on top of people who are waiting on the sidewalk, like the Kennedy High School kids on Georgia Avenue in Aspen Hill, or the doctor on Connecticut Avenue in Kensington, or the family on Old Georgetown Road in Bethesda.

You are the one that claims that there are all of these sidewalks with 6 foot buffers that are unsafe. And yet you cannot name a single one. It’s almost like you just made this up.

I will say it again, we are now past the point of designing infrastructure around peoples feelings. If a six foot buffer is not good enough for cyclists to “feel safe” then nothing will be good enough.

Look up those crashes, why don't you? They critically injured real people. Your fellow residents of Montgomery County.

Do those sidewalks have six foot buffers? Yes or no? You don’t even seem to know but it’s clear that you just like making things up.

You go ahead and keep fighting with randos on the Internet, while the rest of us work on real changes in the real world that will make people safer.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there more than one person that keeps accusing people of defending the bike lanes of not living in the county? I live right off OG and do not know how to ride a bicycle. I support the bicycle lanes because they make the neighborhood safer for the community.
I am on that road every single day walking or driving or both and have not noticed appreciably different traffic. (I can remember years when it took 15 minutes to go a mile up OG to get my kids to 6 pm religious Ed, so it’s not like the traffic backup is new.).
I have seen many people using the bike lanes and none of them look like lance Armstrong. They are mostly families going to/from the Y or getting to the trolley trail, some retirees out for exercise, some people that look like they are going to work at NIH, and some older kids or teens going to friends’ houses. Going up to pike and rose this weekend I saw several young couple riding to/from that development.
I don’t know where the PPs are getting the stereotype of the aggro lance Armstrong wanna bes, but that’s not what I’m seeing. If the lanes stay. I expect use will increase.

To reiterate, I can’t ride a bike myself, but I like seeing others being able to safely do so.

You will be happy to know that the bike lanes are in the process of being reevaluated and will not stay the way that they are. Since you are a county resident, I would assume that you would know that.

Not the top PP. I'm glad to hear it. The bike lanes really do need some improvements, especially around the interchanges. They also need something more solid to protect the people in them. Maybe jersey walls? Those bendy plastic posts don't do much.

They currently have the flex posts plus a 6 foot buffer. If cyclists don’t feel safe with a 6 foot buffer then nothing will make them feel safe and we should stop trying to design infrastructure around peoples feelings.

Many sidewalks also have 6-foot buffers, plus curbs, and yet cars regularly end up on the sidewalk.

I am going to need an example of a sidewalk with a 6 foot buffer that ended up having a car regularly end up in it. Or you just made this up, which is more likely. Nice imagination though.

If you walk on sidewalks next to arterials, you will see a lot of wreckage from car crashes. You can't see when you drive by, but it's there. It's also common for car crashes to end up on top of people who are waiting on the sidewalk, like the Kennedy High School kids on Georgia Avenue in Aspen Hill, or the doctor on Connecticut Avenue in Kensington, or the family on Old Georgetown Road in Bethesda.

You are the one that claims that there are all of these sidewalks with 6 foot buffers that are unsafe. And yet you cannot name a single one. It’s almost like you just made this up.

I will say it again, we are now past the point of designing infrastructure around peoples feelings. If a six foot buffer is not good enough for cyclists to “feel safe” then nothing will be good enough.

Look up those crashes, why don't you? They critically injured real people. Your fellow residents of Montgomery County.

Do those sidewalks have six foot buffers? Yes or no? You don’t even seem to know but it’s clear that you just like making things up.

You go ahead and keep fighting with randos on the Internet, while the rest of us work on real changes in the real world that will make people safer.

My first question is why do cyclists lie so much? My second question is what are you doing exactly to make people safer?

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Anonymous wrote:Is there more than one person that keeps accusing people of defending the bike lanes of not living in the county? I live right off OG and do not know how to ride a bicycle. I support the bicycle lanes because they make the neighborhood safer for the community.
I am on that road every single day walking or driving or both and have not noticed appreciably different traffic. (I can remember years when it took 15 minutes to go a mile up OG to get my kids to 6 pm religious Ed, so it’s not like the traffic backup is new.).
I have seen many people using the bike lanes and none of them look like lance Armstrong. They are mostly families going to/from the Y or getting to the trolley trail, some retirees out for exercise, some people that look like they are going to work at NIH, and some older kids or teens going to friends’ houses. Going up to pike and rose this weekend I saw several young couple riding to/from that development.
I don’t know where the PPs are getting the stereotype of the aggro lance Armstrong wanna bes, but that’s not what I’m seeing. If the lanes stay. I expect use will increase.

To reiterate, I can’t ride a bike myself, but I like seeing others being able to safely do so.

You will be happy to know that the bike lanes are in the process of being reevaluated and will not stay the way that they are. Since you are a county resident, I would assume that you would know that.

Not the top PP. I'm glad to hear it. The bike lanes really do need some improvements, especially around the interchanges. They also need something more solid to protect the people in them. Maybe jersey walls? Those bendy plastic posts don't do much.

They currently have the flex posts plus a 6 foot buffer. If cyclists don’t feel safe with a 6 foot buffer then nothing will make them feel safe and we should stop trying to design infrastructure around peoples feelings.

Many sidewalks also have 6-foot buffers, plus curbs, and yet cars regularly end up on the sidewalk.

I am going to need an example of a sidewalk with a 6 foot buffer that ended up having a car regularly end up in it. Or you just made this up, which is more likely. Nice imagination though.

If you walk on sidewalks next to arterials, you will see a lot of wreckage from car crashes. You can't see when you drive by, but it's there. It's also common for car crashes to end up on top of people who are waiting on the sidewalk, like the Kennedy High School kids on Georgia Avenue in Aspen Hill, or the doctor on Connecticut Avenue in Kensington, or the family on Old Georgetown Road in Bethesda.

You are the one that claims that there are all of these sidewalks with 6 foot buffers that are unsafe. And yet you cannot name a single one. It’s almost like you just made this up.

I will say it again, we are now past the point of designing infrastructure around peoples feelings. If a six foot buffer is not good enough for cyclists to “feel safe” then nothing will be good enough.

Look up those crashes, why don't you? They critically injured real people. Your fellow residents of Montgomery County.

Do those sidewalks have six foot buffers? Yes or no? You don’t even seem to know but it’s clear that you just like making things up.

You go ahead and keep fighting with randos on the Internet, while the rest of us work on real changes in the real world that will make people safer.

My first question is why do cyclists lie so much? My second question is what are you doing exactly to make people safer?

What are cyclists lying about? Please be specific.

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I suppose the congestion is in the form of Wonder Woman style invisible cars?

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Anonymous wrote:Is there more than one person that keeps accusing people of defending the bike lanes of not living in the county? I live right off OG and do not know how to ride a bicycle. I support the bicycle lanes because they make the neighborhood safer for the community.
I am on that road every single day walking or driving or both and have not noticed appreciably different traffic. (I can remember years when it took 15 minutes to go a mile up OG to get my kids to 6 pm religious Ed, so it’s not like the traffic backup is new.).
I have seen many people using the bike lanes and none of them look like lance Armstrong. They are mostly families going to/from the Y or getting to the trolley trail, some retirees out for exercise, some people that look like they are going to work at NIH, and some older kids or teens going to friends’ houses. Going up to pike and rose this weekend I saw several young couple riding to/from that development.
I don’t know where the PPs are getting the stereotype of the aggro lance Armstrong wanna bes, but that’s not what I’m seeing. If the lanes stay. I expect use will increase.

To reiterate, I can’t ride a bike myself, but I like seeing others being able to safely do so.

You will be happy to know that the bike lanes are in the process of being reevaluated and will not stay the way that they are. Since you are a county resident, I would assume that you would know that.

Not the top PP. I'm glad to hear it. The bike lanes really do need some improvements, especially around the interchanges. They also need something more solid to protect the people in them. Maybe jersey walls? Those bendy plastic posts don't do much.

They currently have the flex posts plus a 6 foot buffer. If cyclists don’t feel safe with a 6 foot buffer then nothing will make them feel safe and we should stop trying to design infrastructure around peoples feelings.

Many sidewalks also have 6-foot buffers, plus curbs, and yet cars regularly end up on the sidewalk.

I am going to need an example of a sidewalk with a 6 foot buffer that ended up having a car regularly end up in it. Or you just made this up, which is more likely. Nice imagination though.

If you walk on sidewalks next to arterials, you will see a lot of wreckage from car crashes. You can't see when you drive by, but it's there. It's also common for car crashes to end up on top of people who are waiting on the sidewalk, like the Kennedy High School kids on Georgia Avenue in Aspen Hill, or the doctor on Connecticut Avenue in Kensington, or the family on Old Georgetown Road in Bethesda.

You are the one that claims that there are all of these sidewalks with 6 foot buffers that are unsafe. And yet you cannot name a single one. It’s almost like you just made this up.

I will say it again, we are now past the point of designing infrastructure around peoples feelings. If a six foot buffer is not good enough for cyclists to “feel safe” then nothing will be good enough.

Look up those crashes, why don't you? They critically injured real people. Your fellow residents of Montgomery County.

Do those sidewalks have six foot buffers? Yes or no? You don’t even seem to know but it’s clear that you just like making things up.

You go ahead and keep fighting with randos on the Internet, while the rest of us work on real changes in the real world that will make people safer.

My first question is why do cyclists lie so much? My second question is what are you doing exactly to make people safer?

What are cyclists lying about? Please be specific.

It was said that there are sidewalks in Montgomery County with 6 foot buffers that have cars regularly on the sidewalk. Please identify this dangerous sidewalk with a 6 foot buffer. Pretty pathetic behavior.

But the reality is that it doesn’t matter. SHA implemented this change with the understanding that it was adaptable. They are currently in the process of reevaluating these lanes based in their initial and highly inaccurate projections, which predicted only minimal traffic impact. There will be changes made but you don’t know any of this because you don’t live in the county and are hyperventilating and arguing about things you don’t understand. Every post you make here is a waste of your time because the only person on the other side is me to point out that you are a mendacious liar. Have fun.

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Anonymous wrote:I suppose the congestion is in the form of Wonder Woman style invisible cars?

3:00 pm on a holiday. Let's re-evaluate tomorrow between 4 and 6 pm.

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Anonymous wrote:I suppose the congestion is in the form of Wonder Woman style invisible cars?

3:00 pm on a holiday. Let's re-evaluate tomorrow between 4 and 6 pm.

Thank you for the reality check!

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Anonymous wrote:I suppose the congestion is in the form of Wonder Woman style invisible cars?

3:00 pm on a holiday. Let's re-evaluate tomorrow between 4 and 6 pm.

- New Years Day
- Holiday
- Sunday
- 3 PM

Why is this person asking where the cars are ?

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Anonymous wrote:The petition to remove the bike lanes currently has over 5000 signatures. The petition supporting the bike lanes has 722 signatures.

Can someone please post the link for the petition to support the bike lanes? I’m a county resident and I have zero idea where one would find such a thing.

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Anonymous wrote:The petition to remove the bike lanes currently has over 5000 signatures. The petition supporting the bike lanes has 722 signatures.

Can someone please post the link for the petition to support the bike lanes? I’m a county resident and I have zero idea where one would find such a thing.

Here is the petition to support the bike lanes: https://www.change.org/p/support-the-sha-redesign-of-old-georgetown-road?redirect=false