New bike lane on Old Georgetown Rd in Bethesda

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This seems relevant: https://www.alexandriava.gov/sites/default/files/2022-11/Seminary%20Road%20Project%20Evaluation.pdf

Almost everything seems to have gotten better as a result of the bike lanes. Crashes are down, traffic is down, speeding is down, biking is up, and traffic isn't being diverted.

It’s not. But thanks for your concern, non-county resident.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This seems relevant: https://www.alexandriava.gov/sites/default/files/2022-11/Seminary%20Road%20Project%20Evaluation.pdf

Almost everything seems to have gotten better as a result of the bike lanes. Crashes are down, traffic is down, speeding is down, biking is up, and traffic isn't being diverted.

It’s not. But thanks for your concern, non-county resident.

Actually it’s highly relevant to the discussion here. And yes, I live and commute on OGR and support the changes. Not sure what about the previous post makes you think the previous poster doesn’t as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This seems relevant: https://www.alexandriava.gov/sites/default/files/2022-11/Seminary%20Road%20Project%20Evaluation.pdf

Almost everything seems to have gotten better as a result of the bike lanes. Crashes are down, traffic is down, speeding is down, biking is up, and traffic isn't being diverted.

It’s not. But thanks for your concern, non-county resident.

Actually it’s highly relevant to the discussion here. And yes, I live and commute on OGR and support the changes. Not sure what about the previous post makes you think the previous poster doesn’t as well.

Congratulations on getting a new amenity for your neighborhood that will raise your property value. I hope you will advocate now for road diets on Georgia, 29, and Wisconsin now that they you have your amenity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This seems relevant: https://www.alexandriava.gov/sites/default/files/2022-11/Seminary%20Road%20Project%20Evaluation.pdf

Almost everything seems to have gotten better as a result of the bike lanes. Crashes are down, traffic is down, speeding is down, biking is up, and traffic isn't being diverted.

It’s not. But thanks for your concern, non-county resident.

Actually it’s highly relevant to the discussion here. And yes, I live and commute on OGR and support the changes. Not sure what about the previous post makes you think the previous poster doesn’t as well.

Congratulations on getting a new amenity for your neighborhood that will raise your property value. I hope you will advocate now for road diets on Georgia, 29, and Wisconsin now that they you have your amenity.

DP. I would love for the state to do road diets on Georgia, Colesville/Columbia Pike, and Wisconsin/355/Rockville Pike, and all the other state roads. Georgia in particular is deadly. Drivers and motorcyclists are regularly killed on Columbia Pike. A young man on a motorcycle was killed a few months ago on Wisconsin in downtown Bethesda. It can't come soon enough.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there more than one person that keeps accusing people of defending the bike lanes of not living in the county? I live right off OG and do not know how to ride a bicycle. I support the bicycle lanes because they make the neighborhood safer for the community.
I am on that road every single day walking or driving or both and have not noticed appreciably different traffic. (I can remember years when it took 15 minutes to go a mile up OG to get my kids to 6 pm religious Ed, so it’s not like the traffic backup is new.).
I have seen many people using the bike lanes and none of them look like lance Armstrong. They are mostly families going to/from the Y or getting to the trolley trail, some retirees out for exercise, some people that look like they are going to work at NIH, and some older kids or teens going to friends’ houses. Going up to pike and rose this weekend I saw several young couple riding to/from that development.
I don’t know where the PPs are getting the stereotype of the aggro lance Armstrong wanna bes, but that’s not what I’m seeing. If the lanes stay. I expect use will increase.

To reiterate, I can’t ride a bike myself, but I like seeing others being able to safely do so.

You will be happy to know that the bike lanes are in the process of being reevaluated and will not stay the way that they are. Since you are a county resident, I would assume that you would know that.

Not the top PP. I'm glad to hear it. The bike lanes really do need some improvements, especially around the interchanges. They also need something more solid to protect the people in them. Maybe jersey walls? Those bendy plastic posts don't do much.

[Anonymous]

Are e-bikes or gas filled scooters allowed in bike lanes? Ie motorized bikes? Moped could be my solve re commute…30 mph down the bike lanes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This seems relevant: https://www.alexandriava.gov/sites/default/files/2022-11/Seminary%20Road%20Project%20Evaluation.pdf

Almost everything seems to have gotten better as a result of the bike lanes. Crashes are down, traffic is down, speeding is down, biking is up, and traffic isn't being diverted.

In what ways are the two similar? Big issues with the Old Georgetown Rd design is the 495 on-ramp. How did Alexandria handle the on-ramps/off-ramps?

[Anonymous]

The petition to remove the bike lanes currently has over 5000 signatures. The petition supporting the bike lanes has 722 signatures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there more than one person that keeps accusing people of defending the bike lanes of not living in the county? I live right off OG and do not know how to ride a bicycle. I support the bicycle lanes because they make the neighborhood safer for the community.
I am on that road every single day walking or driving or both and have not noticed appreciably different traffic. (I can remember years when it took 15 minutes to go a mile up OG to get my kids to 6 pm religious Ed, so it’s not like the traffic backup is new.).
I have seen many people using the bike lanes and none of them look like lance Armstrong. They are mostly families going to/from the Y or getting to the trolley trail, some retirees out for exercise, some people that look like they are going to work at NIH, and some older kids or teens going to friends’ houses. Going up to pike and rose this weekend I saw several young couple riding to/from that development.
I don’t know where the PPs are getting the stereotype of the aggro lance Armstrong wanna bes, but that’s not what I’m seeing. If the lanes stay. I expect use will increase.

To reiterate, I can’t ride a bike myself, but I like seeing others being able to safely do so.

You will be happy to know that the bike lanes are in the process of being reevaluated and will not stay the way that they are. Since you are a county resident, I would assume that you would know that.

Not the top PP. I'm glad to hear it. The bike lanes really do need some improvements, especially around the interchanges. They also need something more solid to protect the people in them. Maybe jersey walls? Those bendy plastic posts don't do much.

They currently have the flex posts plus a 6 foot buffer. If cyclists don’t feel safe with a 6 foot buffer then nothing will make them feel safe and we should stop trying to design infrastructure around peoples feelings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The petition to remove the bike lanes currently has over 5000 signatures. The petition supporting the bike lanes has 722 signatures.

All of the people who have signed the petition to remove the lanes live j. Montgomery County. The vast majority of the people who have signed tbt petition to keep them don’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are e-bikes or gas filled scooters allowed in bike lanes? Ie motorized bikes? Moped could be my solve re commute…30 mph down the bike lanes.

E-bikes are allowed in bike lanes. Mopeds and motor scooters are also allowed in bike lanes. Mopeds and motor scooters may not be operated at a speed in excess of 30 miles per hour. Mopeds and motor scooters must be titled and insured, and riders must wear helmets and eye protection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The petition to remove the bike lanes currently has over 5000 signatures. The petition supporting the bike lanes has 722 signatures.

All of the people who have signed the petition to remove the lanes live j. Montgomery County. The vast majority of the people who have signed tbt petition to keep them don’t.

And you know this how?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there more than one person that keeps accusing people of defending the bike lanes of not living in the county? I live right off OG and do not know how to ride a bicycle. I support the bicycle lanes because they make the neighborhood safer for the community.
I am on that road every single day walking or driving or both and have not noticed appreciably different traffic. (I can remember years when it took 15 minutes to go a mile up OG to get my kids to 6 pm religious Ed, so it’s not like the traffic backup is new.).
I have seen many people using the bike lanes and none of them look like lance Armstrong. They are mostly families going to/from the Y or getting to the trolley trail, some retirees out for exercise, some people that look like they are going to work at NIH, and some older kids or teens going to friends’ houses. Going up to pike and rose this weekend I saw several young couple riding to/from that development.
I don’t know where the PPs are getting the stereotype of the aggro lance Armstrong wanna bes, but that’s not what I’m seeing. If the lanes stay. I expect use will increase.

To reiterate, I can’t ride a bike myself, but I like seeing others being able to safely do so.

You will be happy to know that the bike lanes are in the process of being reevaluated and will not stay the way that they are. Since you are a county resident, I would assume that you would know that.

Not the top PP. I'm glad to hear it. The bike lanes really do need some improvements, especially around the interchanges. They also need something more solid to protect the people in them. Maybe jersey walls? Those bendy plastic posts don't do much.

They currently have the flex posts plus a 6 foot buffer. If cyclists don’t feel safe with a 6 foot buffer then nothing will make them feel safe and we should stop trying to design infrastructure around peoples feelings.

Many sidewalks also have 6-foot buffers, plus curbs, and yet cars regularly end up on the sidewalk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The petition to remove the bike lanes currently has over 5000 signatures. The petition supporting the bike lanes has 722 signatures.

All of the people who have signed the petition to remove the lanes live j. Montgomery County. The vast majority of the people who have signed tbt petition to keep them don’t.

And you know this how?

Because I know how to use a website.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there more than one person that keeps accusing people of defending the bike lanes of not living in the county? I live right off OG and do not know how to ride a bicycle. I support the bicycle lanes because they make the neighborhood safer for the community.
I am on that road every single day walking or driving or both and have not noticed appreciably different traffic. (I can remember years when it took 15 minutes to go a mile up OG to get my kids to 6 pm religious Ed, so it’s not like the traffic backup is new.).
I have seen many people using the bike lanes and none of them look like lance Armstrong. They are mostly families going to/from the Y or getting to the trolley trail, some retirees out for exercise, some people that look like they are going to work at NIH, and some older kids or teens going to friends’ houses. Going up to pike and rose this weekend I saw several young couple riding to/from that development.
I don’t know where the PPs are getting the stereotype of the aggro lance Armstrong wanna bes, but that’s not what I’m seeing. If the lanes stay. I expect use will increase.

To reiterate, I can’t ride a bike myself, but I like seeing others being able to safely do so.

You will be happy to know that the bike lanes are in the process of being reevaluated and will not stay the way that they are. Since you are a county resident, I would assume that you would know that.

Not the top PP. I'm glad to hear it. The bike lanes really do need some improvements, especially around the interchanges. They also need something more solid to protect the people in them. Maybe jersey walls? Those bendy plastic posts don't do much.

They currently have the flex posts plus a 6 foot buffer. If cyclists don’t feel safe with a 6 foot buffer then nothing will make them feel safe and we should stop trying to design infrastructure around peoples feelings.

Many sidewalks also have 6-foot buffers, plus curbs, and yet cars regularly end up on the sidewalk.

I am going to need an example of a sidewalk with a 6 foot buffer that ended up having a car regularly end up in it. Or you just made this up, which is more likely. Nice imagination though.