When does the "not great kid" finally hang it up

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t wait! My kids are in the good category - starters first team, but I’ve now reached the “No F@cks to Give” stage of youth soccer with a U16&U13. Other than seeing my kids play well and have fun- I don’t give a sh@t about the games. I don’t care if there is a bad call or we lose or anything.

I have zero tolerance for all the screaming D-bags on the sidelines. Dude, this doesn’t matter.

I especially have reached the point of zero tolerance listening to people yelling at kids that are not their own (even if neither is one of my own). Wtf? These aren’t paid FIFA players—sit down and shut the f@ck up.

I can be zen like most of the game, but I do wonder when I will just snap as I have reached my breaking point and in true Comedy Central Roast style dress down every one of these mutha f—ers. Bam. Mic drop.

Sports are played in front of fans and fans can be positive or negative just not abusive. If your kid makes a bad play its ok for another parent to say bad play . Its not ok to yell you suck. Nobody has to pretend that every play is good and every player did a good job. I f your kid plays in front of fans there put themselves in the situation to be cheered (and no parent complains) or booed for a bad play. If you ok with them cheering your kid then its only fair to take it when they are booed. Its called sports competition not sports drills. so get over yourself or take your snowflake and quit.

WTF has gone wrong in a 40+ year old's life that they need to rationalize booing children playing sports?!
You sound miserable.

As long as he is prepared that one day that kid’s father might punch him in his big mouth. By HS age, he can get ready for man-like 16-year olds to heckle him back. I’ve seen it and it is a beautiful thing.

I vaguely recall a player grabbing his junk and shaking at the a-hole dad when he offered his commentary and told him to get his fat bald @ss out there if he thought he could do it better last season. Ref stepped in but gave more grief to the parent than player. U16. I lmaof

Side note, things look a lot easier to accomplish from the sidelines.

I love this story so much, I do hope it's true.

My DS did not like the ugly atmosphere of his travel club and wanted to quit, though he loved playing and was reasonably skilled (probably middle of the pack talent-wise on this team). DH found him a different club, which had a large number of bilingual (Spanish) kids. OMG, what a pleasure attending those games, where the language barrier on the sidelines meant that many of the parents greeted each other with just smiles and nods. No "in" group, much less ugliness, and best of all, with half the parents, even if they were saying mean things, the other half didn't understand. Blissful.

Now DS has opted to play only on his well-regarded high school team, where parents are an afterthought. Also a delightful experience.

[Anonymous]

What a strange thread. The OP asked when “not good” players drop out, and indicated their child was still in elementary. Kids that young progress at radically different paces year to year. We have a U11 moving up to our top team that was on our 4th team just last year.

I also can’t count the number of players I have seen who either burnt out, went down a bad path of smoking/drinking/drugs, started off athletic but gained weight, or peaked early and then were passed in high school.

Meanwhile, some of these not good players will wind up some of the best U18s because they work hard and nothing came easy for them.

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Anonymous wrote:When it’s not longer fun for him/her.

My kids quit soccer and start golf at the age of 14. Best decisions ever. Soccer is full of corruption, favoritism, and nepotism. Coaches have too much power. Coaches can’t do that in golf because you are what the score says you are, and coaches can’t change that.

The poster child for white privilege

We’re not white. We’re Asians.

Asians still have white privilege. Don't you know anything?

Asians still have white privilege, really? Have you seen Asians being attacked on a daily basis?

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Club soccer is a business. Don't ever forget that.
They will continue to make more teams - add a team, move kids around, encourage parents, etc., as long as the parents are willing to pay. The answer to your question is "when parents stop paying."

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Anonymous wrote:Club soccer is a business. Don't ever forget that.
They will continue to make more teams - add a team, move kids around, encourage parents, etc., as long as the parents are willing to pay. The answer to your question is "when parents stop paying."

No. I don't think that is true by HS age, even late MS. The kids put in a ton of time--multiple days per week and weekends. At some point, the kid will voice they no longer want it (unless their parents are over-bearing and controlling and they are afraid to say --hey mom/dad I'm not loving this anymore). You can visually tell when a kid no longer has his/her heart in it.

I ask my kids what they want to do the following year at the end of every season---move on (stop), stay where they are, look around for a different fit, more competition, less travel, etc. They will strongly voice their opinion at 13 and 15.

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Agree that travel starts way too young.

I think a better split would be kids who take it seriously and are willing to work at it (regardless of skill level) and those who just want to play and have fun a couple hours a week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agree that travel starts way too young.

I think a better split would be kids who take it seriously and are willing to work at it (regardless of skill level) and those who just want to play and have fun a couple hours a week.

Yes. It never happened before 4th/5th grade when I was a kid. Now it starts with tryouts in 2nd grade (or even sooner!) wtF?? I feel like it's the same with GT tracking kids in school---we push it farther and farther down to younger and younger ages. Just like soccer---if a kid is taught to read at home and doing math Kumon worksheets from the age of 3-4, he/she will 'appear' smarter when they arrive with kids that were in play-based preschool or 'normal' parents. Just like soccer---at a later age--true giftedness/intelligence starts to take over, like genetic soccer potential.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree that travel starts way too young.

I think a better split would be kids who take it seriously and are willing to work at it (regardless of skill level) and those who just want to play and have fun a couple hours a week.

Yes. It never happened before 4th/5th grade when I was a kid. Now it starts with tryouts in 2nd grade (or even sooner!) wtF?? I feel like it's the same with GT tracking kids in school---we push it farther and farther down to younger and younger ages. Just like soccer---if a kid is taught to read at home and doing math Kumon worksheets from the age of 3-4, he/she will 'appear' smarter when they arrive with kids that were in play-based preschool or 'normal' parents. Just like soccer---at a later age--true giftedness/intelligence starts to take over, like genetic soccer potential.

It's a money grab for U9 and adds serious $ to the club. In the US, there's no reason for the travel to start so young.

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Anonymous wrote:When it’s not longer fun for him/her.

My kids quit soccer and start golf at the age of 14. Best decisions ever. Soccer is full of corruption, favoritism, and nepotism. Coaches have too much power. Coaches can’t do that in golf because you are what the score says you are, and coaches can’t change that.

The poster child for white privilege

We’re not white. We’re Asians.

Asians still have white privilege. Don't you know anything?

Asians still have white privilege, really? Have you seen Asians being attacked on a daily basis?

No I haven't seen any Asians being attacked. Have you? But if they are, it's because of their privilege.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t wait! My kids are in the good category - starters first team, but I’ve now reached the “No F@cks to Give” stage of youth soccer with a U16&U13. Other than seeing my kids play well and have fun- I don’t give a sh@t about the games. I don’t care if there is a bad call or we lose or anything.

I have zero tolerance for all the screaming D-bags on the sidelines. Dude, this doesn’t matter.

I especially have reached the point of zero tolerance listening to people yelling at kids that are not their own (even if neither is one of my own). Wtf? These aren’t paid FIFA players—sit down and shut the f@ck up.

I can be zen like most of the game, but I do wonder when I will just snap as I have reached my breaking point and in true Comedy Central Roast style dress down every one of these mutha f—ers. Bam. Mic drop.

Sports are played in front of fans and fans can be positive or negative just not abusive. If your kid makes a bad play its ok for another parent to say bad play . Its not ok to yell you suck. Nobody has to pretend that every play is good and every player did a good job. I f your kid plays in front of fans there put themselves in the situation to be cheered (and no parent complains) or booed for a bad play. If you ok with them cheering your kid then its only fair to take it when they are booed. Its called sports competition not sports drills. so get over yourself or take your snowflake and quit.

Huh? I find the "passion" of the fans so bizarre. The good sometimes even more than the bad. They're kids doing a kid thing. Why is it so important to you?

I get why it's important to the kids. I was a very intense athlete and competitor too. One of my kids is the same way. I see it as my job as the parent to make sure he understands that this is all a very little deal in the grand scheme.

[Anonymous]

Club soccer is a business. Don't ever forget that.
They will continue to make more teams - add a team, move kids around, encourage parents, etc., as long as the parents are willing to pay. The answer to your question is "when parents stop paying."

Yes, exactly this. All the travel sports are this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t wait! My kids are in the good category - starters first team, but I’ve now reached the “No F@cks to Give” stage of youth soccer with a U16&U13. Other than seeing my kids play well and have fun- I don’t give a sh@t about the games. I don’t care if there is a bad call or we lose or anything.

I have zero tolerance for all the screaming D-bags on the sidelines. Dude, this doesn’t matter.

I especially have reached the point of zero tolerance listening to people yelling at kids that are not their own (even if neither is one of my own). Wtf? These aren’t paid FIFA players—sit down and shut the f@ck up.

I can be zen like most of the game, but I do wonder when I will just snap as I have reached my breaking point and in true Comedy Central Roast style dress down every one of these mutha f—ers. Bam. Mic drop.

Sports are played in front of fans and fans can be positive or negative just not abusive. If your kid makes a bad play its ok for another parent to say bad play . Its not ok to yell you suck. Nobody has to pretend that every play is good and every player did a good job. I f your kid plays in front of fans there put themselves in the situation to be cheered (and no parent complains) or booed for a bad play. If you ok with them cheering your kid then its only fair to take it when they are booed. Its called sports competition not sports drills. so get over yourself or take your snowflake and quit.

The word fan is short for fanatic. I love that parents or fans are passionate enough about youth games that have interest in. Now I'm totally against throw verbal abusive language at either player or referee. I do believe the only give praise crowd is a fake stance to take. You cant tell your team good shot Johnny even when he misses. If you truly believed in the always praise style of being a youth fane

Huh? I find the "passion" of the fans so bizarre. The good sometimes even more than the bad. They're kids doing a kid thing. Why is it so important to you?

I get why it's important to the kids. I was a very intense athlete and competitor too. One of my kids is the same way. I see it as my job as the parent to make sure he understands that this is all a very little deal in the grand scheme.

The word fan is short for fanatic. I love that parents or fans are passionate enough about youth games that they have interest in. Now I'm totally against throw verbal abusive language at either player or referee. I do believe the only give praise crowd is a fake stance to take. You cant tell your team good shot Johnny even when he misses. If you truly believed in the always praise style of being a youth fan/parent you would tell the other team good job Johnny when the steal the ball from your kid. You dont see it because of the blind fandom for your own team. Next time your u12 RED team loses to the WHITE team. You should cheer great job White team great win. If you dont are you being a D-Bag parent/fan for not supporting a kids game that means nothing? Everyone has bias and loyalty and by cheering for one team your actually making the other team feel bad. really take a look at yourself before judging another parent who has passion and wants to see a team he/she is invested in both emotionally and financially succeed .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t wait! My kids are in the good category - starters first team, but I’ve now reached the “No F@cks to Give” stage of youth soccer with a U16&U13. Other than seeing my kids play well and have fun- I don’t give a sh@t about the games. I don’t care if there is a bad call or we lose or anything.

I have zero tolerance for all the screaming D-bags on the sidelines. Dude, this doesn’t matter.

I especially have reached the point of zero tolerance listening to people yelling at kids that are not their own (even if neither is one of my own). Wtf? These aren’t paid FIFA players—sit down and shut the f@ck up.

I can be zen like most of the game, but I do wonder when I will just snap as I have reached my breaking point and in true Comedy Central Roast style dress down every one of these mutha f—ers. Bam. Mic drop.

Sports are played in front of fans and fans can be positive or negative just not abusive. If your kid makes a bad play its ok for another parent to say bad play . Its not ok to yell you suck. Nobody has to pretend that every play is good and every player did a good job. I f your kid plays in front of fans there put themselves in the situation to be cheered (and no parent complains) or booed for a bad play. If you ok with them cheering your kid then its only fair to take it when they are booed. Its called sports competition not sports drills. so get over yourself or take your snowflake and quit.

The word fan is short for fanatic. I love that parents or fans are passionate enough about youth games that have interest in. Now I'm totally against throw verbal abusive language at either player or referee. I do believe the only give praise crowd is a fake stance to take. You cant tell your team good shot Johnny even when he misses. If you truly believed in the always praise style of being a youth fane

Huh? I find the "passion" of the fans so bizarre. The good sometimes even more than the bad. They're kids doing a kid thing. Why is it so important to you?

I get why it's important to the kids. I was a very intense athlete and competitor too. One of my kids is the same way. I see it as my job as the parent to make sure he understands that this is all a very little deal in the grand scheme.

The word fan is short for fanatic. I love that parents or fans are passionate enough about youth games that they have interest in. Now I'm totally against throw verbal abusive language at either player or referee. I do believe the only give praise crowd is a fake stance to take. You cant tell your team good shot Johnny even when he misses. If you truly believed in the always praise style of being a youth fan/parent you would tell the other team good job Johnny when the steal the ball from your kid. You dont see it because of the blind fandom for your own team. Next time your u12 RED team loses to the WHITE team. You should cheer great job White team great win. If you dont are you being a D-Bag parent/fan for not supporting a kids game that means nothing? Everyone has bias and loyalty and by cheering for one team your actually making the other team feel bad. really take a look at yourself before judging another parent who has passion and wants to see a team he/she is invested in both emotionally and financially succeed .

Sorry, but this is a bad take.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t wait! My kids are in the good category - starters first team, but I’ve now reached the “No F@cks to Give” stage of youth soccer with a U16&U13. Other than seeing my kids play well and have fun- I don’t give a sh@t about the games. I don’t care if there is a bad call or we lose or anything.

I have zero tolerance for all the screaming D-bags on the sidelines. Dude, this doesn’t matter.

I especially have reached the point of zero tolerance listening to people yelling at kids that are not their own (even if neither is one of my own). Wtf? These aren’t paid FIFA players—sit down and shut the f@ck up.

I can be zen like most of the game, but I do wonder when I will just snap as I have reached my breaking point and in true Comedy Central Roast style dress down every one of these mutha f—ers. Bam. Mic drop.

Sports are played in front of fans and fans can be positive or negative just not abusive. If your kid makes a bad play its ok for another parent to say bad play . Its not ok to yell you suck. Nobody has to pretend that every play is good and every player did a good job. I f your kid plays in front of fans there put themselves in the situation to be cheered (and no parent complains) or booed for a bad play. If you ok with them cheering your kid then its only fair to take it when they are booed. Its called sports competition not sports drills. so get over yourself or take your snowflake and quit.

The word fan is short for fanatic. I love that parents or fans are passionate enough about youth games that have interest in. Now I'm totally against throw verbal abusive language at either player or referee. I do believe the only give praise crowd is a fake stance to take. You cant tell your team good shot Johnny even when he misses. If you truly believed in the always praise style of being a youth fane

Huh? I find the "passion" of the fans so bizarre. The good sometimes even more than the bad. They're kids doing a kid thing. Why is it so important to you?

I get why it's important to the kids. I was a very intense athlete and competitor too. One of my kids is the same way. I see it as my job as the parent to make sure he understands that this is all a very little deal in the grand scheme.

The word fan is short for fanatic. I love that parents or fans are passionate enough about youth games that they have interest in. Now I'm totally against throw verbal abusive language at either player or referee. I do believe the only give praise crowd is a fake stance to take. You cant tell your team good shot Johnny even when he misses. If you truly believed in the always praise style of being a youth fan/parent you would tell the other team good job Johnny when the steal the ball from your kid. You dont see it because of the blind fandom for your own team. Next time your u12 RED team loses to the WHITE team. You should cheer great job White team great win. If you dont are you being a D-Bag parent/fan for not supporting a kids game that means nothing? Everyone has bias and loyalty and by cheering for one team your actually making the other team feel bad. really take a look at yourself before judging another parent who has passion and wants to see a team he/she is invested in both emotionally and financially succeed .

Sorry, but this is a bad take.

No actual fairly accurate just the actual reality of the thought process goes over mosts heads

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What a strange thread. The OP asked when “not good” players drop out, and indicated their child was still in elementary. Kids that young progress at radically different paces year to year. We have a U11 moving up to our top team that was on our 4th team just last year.

I also can’t count the number of players I have seen who either burnt out, went down a bad path of smoking/drinking/drugs, started off athletic but gained weight, or peaked early and then were passed in high school.

Meanwhile, some of these not good players will wind up some of the best U18s because they work hard and nothing came easy for them.

That's for the fairies. The vast majority of the best kids at U19 are the same ones who were the best at at U8. Sure there's an occasional exception which proves the rule, and there are plenty of kids who move a little way up or down the ladder. But there are very few kids who move from bottom to top or vice versa.