How many DC residents do not have ID cards of some sort?

[Anonymous]

Why is it important?
If the issue is people not vaccinating or not voting... maybe it’s not an ID issue. Maybe they just don’t care? So not requiring an ID would not change anything?

[Anonymous]

Its a helpful tool and it also gets thrown up a lot as a barrier to doing things. Get everyone an ID and you address both.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Probably thousands.

There are plenty of older folks who were born in the rural south who are living in DC now and may not have ever had a birth certificate.

How did they get to DC? How do they get a social security check? How do they rent?

Many came to DC in search of educational opportunities for their children. They took the train, the bus, or came with other people by car. Imagine, for example, a SAHM who never drove. Any social security that she has would be based on her husband’s income and SS# . She might still live in the family home — a house that was purchased by her husband. Many people of a certain age were paid in cash and don’t qualify for social security benefits which, originally were deliberately crafted to leave out jobs that were disproportionately held by Black people.

Maybe go read up on the Great Migration.

The Great Migration was 100 years ago. There is no one collecting social security based on their husband who doesn't have their own SS#. Sorry... even in the 30s when Social Security was created and your point was actually true, the government made all sorts of accommodations... you could bring in a church document, you could bring in your mom or a sibling or a friend to verify your birth. They swore an affidavit and they gave you a SS#. We now fall over ourselves to accept documents from every country in the world. There is no one who can't get an ID if they want one.

Are there homeless and mentally ill people who have lost the card, sure? But even most of them receive SSI, so yes, someone is holding their paperwork.

The Great Migration ended around 197O — So widen your range a bit. No one has said that you “can’t” get an ID. Many of us have said that it can be expensive and difficult and a major hurdle for people who do not have birth certificates. The extreme difficulties are less about people who had these documents and lost them and more about people who never had them in the first place.

Post 911 it took 2 years to get my mother a birth certificate including all of us flying to the state she was born in to discuss the issue in person. She could not renew her driver's license without updating her paperwork. She never had a birth certificate and never needed one. Lots of people from the state she was born in had the same problem It affected her medical insurance and caused problems when she needed surgery. Two years. Her family had lived in her birth state for 100 years and was known. She lived in the house I grew up in for 40 years. She wasn't homeless or an immigrant. She was an American citizen who grew up in a time and place where being born at home wasn't unusual. She filled out all the paperwork and had called many times. They would never process her paperwork. Two years from the time she submitted the paperwork and they only completed it after we complained to the representative there.

Im glad you rectified this for your mom! Did the representative go on to create a more streamlined pathway for ID services in this state, having seen a firsthand example of how problematic it was?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is it important?
If the issue is people not vaccinating or not voting... maybe it’s not an ID issue. Maybe they just don’t care? So not requiring an ID would not change anything?

An ID is currently not required. What could requiring an ID change?

[Anonymous]

I have never met a Black person who had ID. Not one. Zero.

This is why voter ID laws are designed to discriminate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its a helpful tool and it also gets thrown up a lot as a barrier to doing things. Get everyone an ID and you address both.

I think it’s not as much of a barrier as we are told.
People just don’t care and make excuses (for the most part).
While I understand reaching out to as many people as possible for vaccination purposes, I don’t think making everyone vote serves any public good, it’s more of a partisan issue (but for both parties).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have never met a Black person who had ID. Not one. Zero.

This is why voter ID laws are designed to discriminate.

This post makes me chuckle? Who is this person? Where do they live? Where do they work?

Let's think of some options:
1. They are a Cowboy. Do cowboys really need ID?
2. CIA Ops Officer...like from an 80's TV series where they are raising kids in an orphanage setting to be the ultimate agents...and the black ones...as well as the white ones would be unidentifiable of course.
3. Work on an oil platform, and there are people born and raised on the platforms who never come ashore except to vote and they don't have ID.
4. Runs a cult where people believe ID has embedded trackers. They eschew all federal and state support...except have an obligation to vote in all levels election from schoolboard to President.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have never met a Black person who had ID. Not one. Zero.

This is why voter ID laws are designed to discriminate.

Because black people are too inherently stupid to navigate the 11 minute process it takes to get a license?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have never met a Black person who had ID. Not one. Zero.

This is why voter ID laws are designed to discriminate.

Because black people are too inherently stupid to navigate the 11 minute process it takes to get a license?

+1. If you're too dumb to get an ID then you're too dumb to vote. Works for me.

[Anonymous]

ID issue has always been made up. Instead of looking for proactive ways to get people Id's it is more politically beneficial to scream racism. Instead of screaming why not help people get the benefits they deserve, which require ID.

If a homeless person is eligible for Social Security, instead of making political hay out of them not having an ID, get them an ID and their benefits.

But to answer OP's question, nobody in DC that wants an ID can't get one.

[Anonymous]

ID issue is not made up just overblown. There is an urban issue that is frankly smaller than the rural issue. Large numbers of AAs in rural areas do not have IDs. Live on cash economy and do not use them for anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ID issue has always been made up. Instead of looking for proactive ways to get people Id's it is more politically beneficial to scream racism. Instead of screaming why not help people get the benefits they deserve, which require ID.

If a homeless person is eligible for Social Security, instead of making political hay out of them not having an ID, get them an ID and their benefits.

But to answer OP's question, nobody in DC that wants an ID can't get one.

I have literally met people who wanted ID but was having a really hard time getting one. I really wish it were easier, but we have a long way to go.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have never met a Black person who had ID. Not one. Zero.

This is why voter ID laws are designed to discriminate.

Because black people are too inherently stupid to navigate the 11 minute process it takes to get a license?

+1. If you're too dumb to get an ID then you're too dumb to vote. Works for me.

If you're too dumb to understand our country's complex social issues and history then you're too dumb to vote.

[Anonymous]

An ID card? Not many people have those. Now drivers licenses lot of people have those but they are not drivers license and not IDs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:An ID card? Not many people have those. Now drivers licenses lot of people have those but they are not drivers license and not IDs.

A drivers license is a valid form of identification in DC and most states. If you want to be President Clinton and diagram what the etymology is then please go ahead. But now you are being part of the problem.

And no, you could not fill a conference room in DC with people who cannot get ID's. Now, those who showed up should receive assistance in getting them, but this is an extremely hyperbolic problem.