Northam expanding school year into the summer -- we need the same in DC

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been teaching all my regular hours while doing DL plus even more and the work never ends. I am mentally drained and the students are as well. We need this summer to focus on our mental health so we can be as successful as possible in the fall.

I’m tired of people saying I’m not working. My kids who are home don’t see me unless I’m on my lunch break because I’m in front of the computer teaching ALL DAY. And then I have after school work meetings. Comments like these make it really difficult to keep going.


Please tell your colleagues to follow science and get back in the classroom so our kids can go to school. You may work all day but the kids get 12 live hours per week at our school and 30-min of addtl work each a day. And don’t get me started on asynchronous Wednesdays which is no school and 45 min of busy work. To say these kids are being educated is a lie.


This. It's about outcomes, not inputs (although some teachers aren't working very hard at all).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been teaching all my regular hours while doing DL plus even more and the work never ends. I am mentally drained and the students are as well. We need this summer to focus on our mental health so we can be as successful as possible in the fall.

I’m tired of people saying I’m not working. My kids who are home don’t see me unless I’m on my lunch break because I’m in front of the computer teaching ALL DAY. And then I have after school work meetings. Comments like these make it really difficult to keep going.


Please tell your colleagues to follow science and get back in the classroom so our kids can go to school. You may work all day but the kids get 12 live hours per week at our school and 30-min of addtl work each a day. And don’t get me started on asynchronous Wednesdays which is no school and 45 min of busy work. To say these kids are being educated is a lie.


Why does s/he also need to police colleagues? You people are insufferable. I agree with you on the outcomes, but teacher burnout is going to be a huge problem. The systems are failing us all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been teaching all my regular hours while doing DL plus even more and the work never ends. I am mentally drained and the students are as well. We need this summer to focus on our mental health so we can be as successful as possible in the fall.

I’m tired of people saying I’m not working. My kids who are home don’t see me unless I’m on my lunch break because I’m in front of the computer teaching ALL DAY. And then I have after school work meetings. Comments like these make it really difficult to keep going.


Please tell your colleagues to follow science and get back in the classroom so our kids can go to school. You may work all day but the kids get 12 live hours per week at our school and 30-min of addtl work each a day. And don’t get me started on asynchronous Wednesdays which is no school and 45 min of busy work. To say these kids are being educated is a lie.


Why does s/he also need to police colleagues? You people are insufferable. I agree with you on the outcomes, but teacher burnout is going to be a huge problem. The systems are failing us all.


You're worried that "teacher burnout is going to be a huge problem" but the reason is because the teachers insisted on DL rather than in person. So how is it being insufferable for her to suggest that they just go back to in person?

Anonymous
Not all teachers wanted DL!! And there were some who had to stay DL for various reasons. Parents who constantly tear us apart are not helping. This is hard on everyone and burnout will be huge.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not all teachers wanted DL!! And there were some who had to stay DL for various reasons. Parents who constantly tear us apart are not helping. This is hard on everyone and burnout will be huge.


So will our children not learning.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not all teachers wanted DL!! And there were some who had to stay DL for various reasons. Parents who constantly tear us apart are not helping. This is hard on everyone and burnout will be huge.


Again, complaining about burnout from the method teaches forced is ridiculous. Obviously not every teacher was in favor of what the group forced and obviously some have legitimate health considerations that are addressed under the ADA.
Anonymous
Back to the topic. Anyone hear the plan?
Anonymous
This is a useless thread that will only serve to incite anger.

If you would like summer school DCPS will offer that.

DCPS could definitely try and violate the teacher's contract, as both sides have. However the law will be followed, what this will do is just give DCPS a hefty fine they will have to pay.

Now DCPS can propose to extend the school year but the WTU will have to agree and of course teachers must be paid extra.

That won't happen, and I am a teacher who works ESY (extended school year) every summer. I work this because the hours are shorter and it is not all of summer break. I want to see my family too, I did not travel over the holidays like some fools did.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is a useless thread that will only serve to incite anger.

If you would like summer school DCPS will offer that.

DCPS could definitely try and violate the teacher's contract, as both sides have. However the law will be followed, what this will do is just give DCPS a hefty fine they will have to pay.

Now DCPS can propose to extend the school year but the WTU will have to agree and of course teachers must be paid extra.

That won't happen, and I am a teacher who works ESY (extended school year) every summer. I work this because the hours are shorter and it is not all of summer break. I want to see my family too, I did not travel over the holidays like some fools did.


All they have to do is remove the blanket exemption that allows DL days to count as school. Then things start falling into place.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not all teachers wanted DL!! And there were some who had to stay DL for various reasons. Parents who constantly tear us apart are not helping. This is hard on everyone and burnout will be huge.


Again, complaining about burnout from the method teaches forced is ridiculous. Obviously not every teacher was in favor of what the group forced and obviously some have legitimate health considerations that are addressed under the ADA.


You're funny, at the end of the day WHO was in charge of meeting safety metrics and not caring if teachers 'threatened' or participated in a strike?

Why did it take DCPS and the mayor 11 months to get HVAC systems in place and meet other safety metrics? Why did it take 11 months to say, 'no, you'll be working in person if you legally have to.'

The sickout didn't even have half of teachers participate. You've been seeing what the WTU has asked for and keep saying they shift the goalposts but what did the mayor and chancellor do to combat that? Nothing.

You can continue to vilify teachers but it will not get more students back in person, I promise.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is a useless thread that will only serve to incite anger.

If you would like summer school DCPS will offer that.

DCPS could definitely try and violate the teacher's contract, as both sides have. However the law will be followed, what this will do is just give DCPS a hefty fine they will have to pay.

Now DCPS can propose to extend the school year but the WTU will have to agree and of course teachers must be paid extra.

That won't happen, and I am a teacher who works ESY (extended school year) every summer. I work this because the hours are shorter and it is not all of summer break. I want to see my family too, I did not travel over the holidays like some fools did.


All they have to do is remove the blanket exemption that allows DL days to count as school. Then things start falling into place.


They could do that but teachers have worked those hours regardless, therefore they will still have to count hours that have passed.
Future hours however could be counted. But the problem with that is that then all teachers who are DL would have to be off until the summer.

teachers work a total of 196 days, and they cannot go over that.

So either they are 'off' 8 weeks now or later.
Anonymous
This is dumb. OSSE is not getting rid of the waiver. End of story
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is dumb. OSSE is not getting rid of the waiver. End of story


Truth.

It's interesting to see how many people of privilege think, I am surprised but I shouldn't be.
Anonymous
The parents who whine about their kids not being in school tickle me. If you can't stand distance learning so much, then move! Go down south to like GA where your little one can learn in a COVID crockpot all day!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Northam tells the Washington Post just now that it's needed to help these kids catch up on all the learning they've missed.

We need this in DC. Our kids are terribly far behind.



We need to do something about learning loss.
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