Will the WTU illegally strike? Not return on 2/1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS teacher here. I took part in the original sick out because I didn't believe DCPS had a good plan or had made the buildings safe enough. I requested to stay virtual, but I always said I would go back in person if I had to.I just didn't want to volunteer for it if I had a chance to keep myself and my family safer. I have been called to go back in person and I have no problem doing so, especially now that in person teachers have been prioritized for the vaccine. I have heard about the safety precautions at my school in detail and I think it will be as safe as they can make it. The students who are coming back really need in person learning. If WTU calls for a sick out on Feb 1, I will not be participating. I think they should be focusing more on the actual logistics of school opening now and getting some protections in place around that, like with issues of teachers covering classes for other teachers, lunch and recess duty, planning time for teachers who are teaching both in person and virtual, etc. It's quite frustrating. We are going back. They are beating a dead horse and they need to focus on protecting teachers who must be there in person.

I’m glad you’re committed to going back now, but your actions in November really destroyed my trust in the school and my child’s teacher. And of course covid rates are much higher now. You thoughtlessly rejected going back when it was *actually* safer, and seriously damanges relationships with special needs parents like me. I really wanted my child to go back in November, but now I don’t trust or respect the teacher, so I’ll probably keep him home.

I don’t know why you keep repeating this story on every thread. This story does not effect any teacher, let alone, your child’s teacher. I’m sorry you don’t trust any teachers. But guess what...June will be here before you know it. And then you will be on to a different teacher. In a couple years, you will be out of that school and into another. That’s the beauty of education. You aren’t stuck with a crappy teacher you don’t like forever. I’m a teacher and a special needs parent. If you continue to take things personally for the remainder of your daughter’s education, you are going to have a long road ahead of you. Teachers are not your friends and they really are not looking out for your daughter number one. There are 20 other kids in that room. You really need to lower your stress level.

um ok ... nothing you wrote makes me feel any differently. I’m sorry you can’t accept the consequences of your actions. But thanks for highlighting, yet again, that teachers can’t be counted on to care about my individual child, or even consider childrens’ interests in general.

I don’t care about the consequences. There were none. Nothing happened to me. Parents don’t like me know? Ok. I have never cared what parents think of me. I don’t participate in HSA things and don’t accept money or gifts at at holidays or the end of the year. This has zero effect on me.

As I’ve said I’m a special needs parent as well. Maybe because I work in a school, I have long known many teachers do not want kids with IEPs in their rooms and very rarely actually provide the accommodation and modifications correctly. I have taught both EOTP and WOTP and it’s far worse in other schools in WOTP. I currently work in Ward 8 because I feel that is where I can do the most good. The sooner you realize schools DO NOT have your best interest the easier the educational road will be for both you and your daughter. You really need to look at things with eyes wide open. I’m sorry it took you this long to realize that.

Wow and you're a teacher? I'm a self-contained teacher and I hold myself accountable for everything I put in a child's IEP. I dearly care about all my students and their families, not more than my own but that doesn't negate the fact. I do think to an extent you're correct in terms of general education. To give them the benefit of the doubt most of them are not trained in sped and if you don't have all the skills it's hard to follow the IEP 100%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DCPS teacher here. I took part in the original sick out because I didn't believe DCPS had a good plan or had made the buildings safe enough. I requested to stay virtual, but I always said I would go back in person if I had to.I just didn't want to volunteer for it if I had a chance to keep myself and my family safer. I have been called to go back in person and I have no problem doing so, especially now that in person teachers have been prioritized for the vaccine. I have heard about the safety precautions at my school in detail and I think it will be as safe as they can make it. The students who are coming back really need in person learning. If WTU calls for a sick out on Feb 1, I will not be participating. I think they should be focusing more on the actual logistics of school opening now and getting some protections in place around that, like with issues of teachers covering classes for other teachers, lunch and recess duty, planning time for teachers who are teaching both in person and virtual, etc. It's quite frustrating. We are going back. They are beating a dead horse and they need to focus on protecting teachers who must be there in person.

I’m glad you’re committed to going back now, but your actions in November really destroyed my trust in the school and my child’s teacher. And of course covid rates are much higher now. You thoughtlessly rejected going back when it was *actually* safer, and seriously damanges relationships with special needs parents like me. I really wanted my child to go back in November, but now I don’t trust or respect the teacher, so I’ll probably keep him home.

I don’t know why you keep repeating this story on every thread. This story does not effect any teacher, let alone, your child’s teacher. I’m sorry you don’t trust any teachers. But guess what...June will be here before you know it. And then you will be on to a different teacher. In a couple years, you will be out of that school and into another. That’s the beauty of education. You aren’t stuck with a crappy teacher you don’t like forever. I’m a teacher and a special needs parent. If you continue to take things personally for the remainder of your daughter’s education, you are going to have a long road ahead of you. Teachers are not your friends and they really are not looking out for your daughter number one. There are 20 other kids in that room. You really need to lower your stress level.

um ok ... nothing you wrote makes me feel any differently. I’m sorry you can’t accept the consequences of your actions. But thanks for highlighting, yet again, that teachers can’t be counted on to care about my individual child, or even consider childrens’ interests in general.

I don’t care about the consequences. There were none. Nothing happened to me. Parents don’t like me know? Ok. I have never cared what parents think of me. I don’t participate in HSA things and don’t accept money or gifts at at holidays or the end of the year. This has zero effect on me.

As I’ve said I’m a special needs parent as well. Maybe because I work in a school, I have long known many teachers do not want kids with IEPs in their rooms and very rarely actually provide the accommodation and modifications correctly. I have taught both EOTP and WOTP and it’s far worse in other schools in WOTP. I currently work in Ward 8 because I feel that is where I can do the most good. The sooner you realize schools DO NOT have your best interest the easier the educational road will be for both you and your daughter. You really need to look at things with eyes wide open. I’m sorry it took you this long to realize that.

Wow and you're a teacher? I'm a self-contained teacher and I hold myself accountable for everything I put in a child's IEP. I dearly care about all my students and their families, not more than my own but that doesn't negate the fact. I do think to an extent you're correct in terms of general education. To give them the benefit of the doubt most of them are not trained in sped and if you don't have all the skills it's hard to follow the IEP 100%.

It is hard to paint with a broad brush but I have worked with plenty of teachers who ignore IEPs and 504s. I’ve also worked with plenty who worked hard to comply with those legal documents. I’ve worked with SPED teachers who write the same accommodations on every IEP regardless of need, and I’ve known extremely dedicated SPED teachers. It’s a mixed bag in both respects.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, the union is preparing to strike.

Source??

Here are the facts, decide for yourself what you think will happen.

1. PERB rules in favor of the WTU, end of October, from the original complaint for violation of the contract, filed in July. DCPS forced to negotiate with WTU (this was a major F-up of DCPS BTW, they had July-Oct to work with union.)
2. DCPS has to abandon early November opening because of PERB ruling, WTU strikes/sick-outs and bizarrely considers it a win.
3. Nov - Now; DCPS kicks all the planning to each school, abandons the staffing survey (cause they had to) which gave teachers a lot of flexibility; WTU plans to sign MOA and then backtracks multiples times until it's filed; asks Elissa Silverman to sponsor a bill (which she does) that is ultimately withdrawn; WTU heavily lobbies city council (now the whole cause the Ed committee has been disbanded); WTU consistently messages its members unsafe, unsafe, unsafe, unsafe so much that who would expect anything other than certain death if returning to school.
4. 1/19 WTU files emergency complaint with PERB to calling for immediate arbitration for what sounds like violations of MOA; arbitration will probably happen next week.

If arbitration rules in favor of DCPS and there is no legal injunction forcing DCPS to change course, what do you think will happen? If you don't believe the back-up plan is a strike, I can't help you.

I thought the PERB ruling was just that DCPS didn't negotiate the survey prior to sending, not that DCPS didn't negotiate with the union at all? And the PERB ruling didn't require DCPS to abandon reopening in November (that was DCPS caving to WTU pressure)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCPS teacher here. I took part in the original sick out because I didn't believe DCPS had a good plan or had made the buildings safe enough. I requested to stay virtual, but I always said I would go back in person if I had to.I just didn't want to volunteer for it if I had a chance to keep myself and my family safer. I have been called to go back in person and I have no problem doing so, especially now that in person teachers have been prioritized for the vaccine. I have heard about the safety precautions at my school in detail and I think it will be as safe as they can make it. The students who are coming back really need in person learning. If WTU calls for a sick out on Feb 1, I will not be participating. I think they should be focusing more on the actual logistics of school opening now and getting some protections in place around that, like with issues of teachers covering classes for other teachers, lunch and recess duty, planning time for teachers who are teaching both in person and virtual, etc. It's quite frustrating. We are going back. They are beating a dead horse and they need to focus on protecting teachers who must be there in person.

I’m glad you’re committed to going back now, but your actions in November really destroyed my trust in the school and my child’s teacher. And of course covid rates are much higher now. You thoughtlessly rejected going back when it was *actually* safer, and seriously damanges relationships with special needs parents like me. I really wanted my child to go back in November, but now I don’t trust or respect the teacher, so I’ll probably keep him home.

Love your sense of distrust for your kid's teacher and school, rather than the very district that made them feel unheard, unsafe, unprepared, etc. Your lack of understanding that teachers are not obligated to care about you and yours first is odd. I'm certain your child recovered from that ONE day the teacher missed. The sickout did not change DCPSs decision and any idiot knows they were not going to open, especially since there was MORE parent support then, especially in ward 7 & 8, most of whom are suffering way more than your child.

I took leave that day, however I did show up to my class that day too because I know how it would make some of my parents feel. However if I didn't show and they were to say on some random forum they lost respect and trust for me because of that day, I'd certainly lose respect and trust in them as well. You only care about your well being, this is a job. You don't even know if your teacher did want to come back with precautions.

PS. Many principals BLOCKED teachers from coming back term 1, saying it would be 'unfair' and DCPS itself said no. I know of at least 12 DCPS elementary schools that admin did this at.

wah wah wah.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, the union is preparing to strike.

Source??

Here are the facts, decide for yourself what you think will happen.

1. PERB rules in favor of the WTU, end of October, from the original complaint for violation of the contract, filed in July. DCPS forced to negotiate with WTU (this was a major F-up of DCPS BTW, they had July-Oct to work with union.)
2. DCPS has to abandon early November opening because of PERB ruling, WTU strikes/sick-outs and bizarrely considers it a win.
3. Nov - Now; DCPS kicks all the planning to each school, abandons the staffing survey (cause they had to) which gave teachers a lot of flexibility; WTU plans to sign MOA and then backtracks multiples times until it's filed; asks Elissa Silverman to sponsor a bill (which she does) that is ultimately withdrawn; WTU heavily lobbies city council (now the whole cause the Ed committee has been disbanded); WTU consistently messages its members unsafe, unsafe, unsafe, unsafe so much that who would expect anything other than certain death if returning to school.
4. 1/19 WTU files emergency complaint with PERB to calling for immediate arbitration for what sounds like violations of MOA; arbitration will probably happen next week.

If arbitration rules in favor of DCPS and there is no legal injunction forcing DCPS to change course, what do you think will happen? If you don't believe the back-up plan is a strike, I can't help you.

I thought the PERB ruling was just that DCPS didn't negotiate the survey prior to sending, not that DCPS didn't negotiate with the union at all? And the PERB ruling didn't require DCPS to abandon reopening in November (that was DCPS caving to WTU pressure)?

The PERB ruling invalidated the staffing survey as a violation of the contract. It would have been impossible to staff schools on November 9th because DCPS had no means to staff school unless, under mayoral control, all teacher would have been required to report to work.. The end result was that DCPS and the WTU needed to come to the table together. DCPS disregarded the WTU altogether until the PERB complaint and ruling. DCPS, in no way, caved to the WTU. Had the PERB not ruled in favor of the WTU, DCPS would have gone forward with the Nov plan.

[Anonymous]

So disgusted with teachers. There aren’t words. My job has been in person the whole pandemic. Meanwhile, the only things my first grader has learned have come from me teaching after work. For shame. Shame!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So disgusted with teachers. There aren’t words. My job has been in person the whole pandemic. Meanwhile, the only things my first grader has learned have come from me teaching after work. For shame. Shame!

And we are disgusted with parents like you. Shame! Shame!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So disgusted with teachers. There aren’t words. My job has been in person the whole pandemic. Meanwhile, the only things my first grader has learned have come from me teaching after work. For shame. Shame!

And we are disgusted with parents like you. Shame! Shame!

Huh? You don't make any sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So disgusted with teachers. There aren’t words. My job has been in person the whole pandemic. Meanwhile, the only things my first grader has learned have come from me teaching after work. For shame. Shame!

And we are disgusted with parents like you. Shame! Shame!

Huh? You don't make any sense.

NP. They make perfect sense. These idiotic wails of "I've worked in person the whole time!" are absurd. If your job absolutely, positively, 100% cannot be done in person (inpatient nurse, postal worker, surgeon, etc), then you should be in person. Otherwise, if your employer treats you like crap and forces you to be in person when you could be at home during a pandemic, that's not a good thing or something to be emulated.

People who can work from home (and yes, teachers CAN and ARE and will continue to work from home) should do so until vaccination is prevalent or case rates drop dramatically. You can scream all you want, but that's what will happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So disgusted with teachers. There aren’t words. My job has been in person the whole pandemic. Meanwhile, the only things my first grader has learned have come from me teaching after work. For shame. Shame!

Totally agree. Am sick of being my kids' primary teacher. I'm exhausted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So disgusted with teachers. There aren’t words. My job has been in person the whole pandemic. Meanwhile, the only things my first grader has learned have come from me teaching after work. For shame. Shame!

And we are disgusted with parents like you. Shame! Shame!

Huh? You don't make any sense.

NP. They make perfect sense. These idiotic wails of "I've worked in person the whole time!" are absurd. If your job absolutely, positively, 100% cannot be done in person (inpatient nurse, postal worker, surgeon, etc), then you should be in person. Otherwise, if your employer treats you like crap and forces you to be in person when you could be at home during a pandemic, that's not a good thing or something to be emulated.

People who can work from home (and yes, teachers CAN and ARE and will continue to work from home) should do so until vaccination is prevalent or case rates drop dramatically. You can scream all you want, but that's what will happen.

I'm not really picking sides here although I generally support both teachers and unions. But it's a stretch to say you can do your job from home when part of that is teaching young or SN children who cannot learn from a screen. Huge numbers of children are also falling behind without parental support at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So disgusted with teachers. There aren’t words. My job has been in person the whole pandemic. Meanwhile, the only things my first grader has learned have come from me teaching after work. For shame. Shame!

And we are disgusted with parents like you. Shame! Shame!

Huh? You don't make any sense.

NP. They make perfect sense. These idiotic wails of "I've worked in person the whole time!" are absurd. If your job absolutely, positively, 100% cannot be done in person (inpatient nurse, postal worker, surgeon, etc), then you should be in person. Otherwise, if your employer treats you like crap and forces you to be in person when you could be at home during a pandemic, that's not a good thing or something to be emulated.

People who can work from home (and yes, teachers CAN and ARE and will continue to work from home) should do so until vaccination is prevalent or case rates drop dramatically. You can scream all you want, but that's what will happen.

But you're NOT doing all of your teacher job from home; parents are doing a large portion of it for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So disgusted with teachers. There aren’t words. My job has been in person the whole pandemic. Meanwhile, the only things my first grader has learned have come from me teaching after work. For shame. Shame!

And we are disgusted with parents like you. Shame! Shame!

Huh? You don't make any sense.

NP. They make perfect sense. These idiotic wails of "I've worked in person the whole time!" are absurd. If your job absolutely, positively, 100% cannot be done in person (inpatient nurse, postal worker, surgeon, etc), then you should be in person. Otherwise, if your employer treats you like crap and forces you to be in person when you could be at home during a pandemic, that's not a good thing or something to be emulated.

People who can work from home (and yes, teachers CAN and ARE and will continue to work from home) should do so until vaccination is prevalent or case rates drop dramatically. You can scream all you want, but that's what will happen.

But you're NOT doing all of your teacher job from home; parents are doing a large portion of it for you.

Teachers of young kids teaching from home are about as useless as a nurse changing a bed pan from home. This has gotten ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So disgusted with teachers. There aren’t words. My job has been in person the whole pandemic. Meanwhile, the only things my first grader has learned have come from me teaching after work. For shame. Shame!

And we are disgusted with parents like you. Shame! Shame!

Huh? You don't make any sense.

NP. They make perfect sense. These idiotic wails of "I've worked in person the whole time!" are absurd. If your job absolutely, positively, 100% cannot be done in person (inpatient nurse, postal worker, surgeon, etc), then you should be in person. Otherwise, if your employer treats you like crap and forces you to be in person when you could be at home during a pandemic, that's not a good thing or something to be emulated.

People who can work from home (and yes, teachers CAN and ARE and will continue to work from home) should do so until vaccination is prevalent or case rates drop dramatically. You can scream all you want, but that's what will happen.

But you're NOT doing all of your teacher job from home; parents are doing a large portion of it for you.

The idiotic wails of “we ARE doing our job, you just may not like it” are what have really pushed me into the “WTF teachers” camp. Can you all just not admit that you are not doing 100% of your job right now? I totally understand why schools closed back in March, but now, many schools have adapted and made teaching in person safe.

Teachers seem to want it all - work from home, free childcare for THEIR children, and to be first in line for the vaccine. Most people didn’t get any one of those things, let alone all three.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So disgusted with teachers. There aren’t words. My job has been in person the whole pandemic. Meanwhile, the only things my first grader has learned have come from me teaching after work. For shame. Shame!

And we are disgusted with parents like you. Shame! Shame!

Huh? You don't make any sense.

NP. They make perfect sense. These idiotic wails of "I've worked in person the whole time!" are absurd. If your job absolutely, positively, 100% cannot be done in person (inpatient nurse, postal worker, surgeon, etc), then you should be in person. Otherwise, if your employer treats you like crap and forces you to be in person when you could be at home during a pandemic, that's not a good thing or something to be emulated.

People who can work from home (and yes, teachers CAN and ARE and will continue to work from home) should do so until vaccination is prevalent or case rates drop dramatically. You can scream all you want, but that's what will happen.

Teachers cannot do the work at home. To think that is laughable.