Look, Teslas are great at many things, but they are not (yet) a "car to last forever." Tesla is cranking out new cars at such an aggressive clip that they are having issues with quality control even for brand new vehicles that are delivered. The entire roof of someone's Model Y flew off on the highway recently because it wasn't secured. Not going to happen to everyone, but it's a pretty clear sign that they've decided to skip out on real quality control processes in order to meet aggressive production goals. No Lexus is going to make it to a customer with obvious panel gaps and essential parts that fly off. Tesla is one of the few cars where I'd say if you're going to get one, lease instead of buying. And don't get it thinking it will be an "I'm going to keep this thing for the next 15 years" car. |
Agree. We normally buy the last model year prior to a refresh. Not only should the last model year be most reliable (hopefully) but because a newer model is around corner, the prior design/year model tends to be heavily discounted (as everyone else wants the latest and greatest and willing to wait a few months for it, further depressing the sales of the prior model). Its a win-win-win if you ask me, lower upfront cost, lower long term cost.
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| I have a Toyota Tundra, and I expect it to last for over 400,000 miles (I have about 150,000 miles on it now.) I expect it will be the last "car" I'll ever own. |
Same w/ my Toyota. I WANT a new car, but I feel I should just keep driving it ‘til it dies! |
Subaru because their style only changes incrementally |
Except for the fact that they're uncomfortable as hell to drive with the exception of Rubicon's, at which point you could get much more for your money. I can't think of anyone I know with a Wrangler who uses it as a daily driver. |
| Landcruisers. They are built to last 25 years. |
I use mine as my daily/only driver. My spouse wants to get one as theirs when they need a new vehicle. The new JL's are comfortable. They are a Jeep. If you want smooth and refined you get a Range Rover or another vehicle. I love mine. |
| Get a post 2018 Camry with the higher trim levels— it’s an attractive, reliable car. They last forever and even in nice neighborhoods you will see older Toyotas. |
Ha. It's a terrible car with known maintenance issues. I think someone here once called it a turd in a candy wrapper. |
I’ve had zero issues with mine. |
I have had more issues with my 2010 Forester even though the mileage was pretty low. Every year when we need to get it inspected we shelled out another $1,000 or more. Then the AC broke, and that was it for this car. |
I daily drove a JKU Sport for six years and now am daily driving a JLU Rubicon. The Sport was not uncomfortable but agree the Rubicon is a whole different level (almost too cushy). As for being able to get "much more" for your money with a Rubicon -- build me a better vehicle for on and off road with removable top and doors and a fold down windshield at a comparable price. I'll wait. |
Zero premature significant issues over 3 jeeps owned since 1996. What you need to realize, it is that it isn't intended to be an ordinary "car" and that people who own them generally don't want them to be (putting aside those who are using them as mall terrain vehicles). |
imagine if someone like you worked as an NHTSA investigator..."hasn't happened on this 1 single example, closing the file" |