DC - pot smoking neighbors

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DC4Life wrote:Agreed. Smoking in public and outside is technically illegal. Though DC and the mayor, and the council have decided NOT to enforce the laws and turn a blind eye. Had I known that, I NEVER would have voted for legalization. Now, on the ballot is Initiative 81, for legalization of hallucinogenics. Thought they way the ballot is written, it seems like a positive thing. After witnessing a tripping man having sex with our retaining wall, and the ever present drugs of all kind in DC, we are voting against Initiative 81. I urge everyone to do the same.

As for your neighbors, you are legally able to enjoy your property. If the neighbors are doing something that prevents your from enjoying your property, then you can force them to stop. Sending a letter to landlord is a good first step. Talking to them is a good second step.

Problem is that most people are completely clueless about the laws in DC, as can be seen by some of the responses in this thread. People think that smoking in public is permitted but it is not. There needs to be a movement to push back again the drug users as their lobby and misinformation has gotten so strong that you can't say anything against pot before getting attacked.

This is not really the environment we want to raise our children. The Mayor and Council are eyeing the future tax revues of the legalization of drugs. The rest of us can just move out if we don't want to smell the stench all day and night.

As someone who recently started using mushrooms for therapy (amazingly effective btw. Made a change overnight to my depression and anxiety stemming from years of sexual abuse) I can almost guarantee that the guy who you think was tripping and having sex against your retaining wall was NOT on mushrooms. Mushrooms make a person introspective and mostly quiet in demeanor and behavior. Sex is not something most people even think about. I would bet good money he was on another drug.

Everybody claims that their drug of choice is harmless.

Take your DARE campaign to someone who cares. Your attitude is not prevalent with young voters. Intelligent folks look to Portugal and its history of decriminalization of drugs, it’s focus on medical treatment rather than jail for addiction, and all the other subsequent benefits as a result of this policy. You are a dinosaur whose opinion soon won’t matter.

Whoa! You mean using these substances can cause addiction? Is that harmless? If so, why do addicts need help? Who pays for that help?

The same people who normally pay more for a long prison stay and all the quantifiable and unquantifiable treble harms as a result of treating addiction like a crime rather than a sickness. You can throw in effects on users children from the effects of their parents being ripped from their home and sent to jail, versus something more productive like treatment. You can also keep banging your head against the wall for another 80 years trying to enforce prohibition of a plant, which is a war on people, we lose, and which only feeds drug cartel profits. Or you could legalize and use the tax money for treatment and school budgets. which Trump folks like to cut. I get it. You’re a “strong on Crime pragmatist” who probably has no clue that marijuana, by all medical studies (nhs, lancet) shows that it’s the thousands of times less harmful than alcohol. Or that mushrooms are the same, when not abused like anything else. Look it doesn’t really matter what you think only that the majority of the population is moving forward. So, because it’s popular in the current climate, you can be as anti-science as you want.

[Anonymous]

to reply PP, taxpayers pay for drug abuse. Poorer families pay as they are more likely to suffer drug abuse. This whole legalizing drugs is kind of like legalizing gambling and state lotteries: those that have the most to gain are usually those who risk the most.

[Anonymous]

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DC4Life wrote:Agreed. Smoking in public and outside is technically illegal. Though DC and the mayor, and the council have decided NOT to enforce the laws and turn a blind eye. Had I known that, I NEVER would have voted for legalization. Now, on the ballot is Initiative 81, for legalization of hallucinogenics. Thought they way the ballot is written, it seems like a positive thing. After witnessing a tripping man having sex with our retaining wall, and the ever present drugs of all kind in DC, we are voting against Initiative 81. I urge everyone to do the same.

As for your neighbors, you are legally able to enjoy your property. If the neighbors are doing something that prevents your from enjoying your property, then you can force them to stop. Sending a letter to landlord is a good first step. Talking to them is a good second step.

Problem is that most people are completely clueless about the laws in DC, as can be seen by some of the responses in this thread. People think that smoking in public is permitted but it is not. There needs to be a movement to push back again the drug users as their lobby and misinformation has gotten so strong that you can't say anything against pot before getting attacked.

This is not really the environment we want to raise our children. The Mayor and Council are eyeing the future tax revues of the legalization of drugs. The rest of us can just move out if we don't want to smell the stench all day and night.

As someone who recently started using mushrooms for therapy (amazingly effective btw. Made a change overnight to my depression and anxiety stemming from years of sexual abuse) I can almost guarantee that the guy who you think was tripping and having sex against your retaining wall was NOT on mushrooms. Mushrooms make a person introspective and mostly quiet in demeanor and behavior. Sex is not something most people even think about. I would bet good money he was on another drug.

Everybody claims that their drug of choice is harmless.

Take your DARE campaign to someone who cares. Your attitude is not prevalent with young voters. Intelligent folks look to Portugal and its history of decriminalization of drugs, it’s focus on medical treatment rather than jail for addiction, and all the other subsequent benefits as a result of this policy. You are a dinosaur whose opinion soon won’t matter.

Whoa! You mean using these substances can cause addiction? Is that harmless? If so, why do addicts need help? Who pays for that help?

The same people who normally pay more for a long prison stay and all the quantifiable and unquantifiable treble harms as a result of treating addiction like a crime rather than a sickness. You can throw in effects on users children from the effects of their parents being ripped from their home and sent to jail, versus something more productive like treatment. You can also keep banging your head against the wall for another 80 years trying to enforce prohibition of a plant, which is a war on people, we lose, and which only feeds drug cartel profits. Or you could legalize and use the tax money for treatment and school budgets. which Trump folks like to cut. I get it. You’re a “strong on Crime pragmatist” who probably has no clue that marijuana, by all medical studies (nhs, lancet) shows that it’s the thousands of times less harmful than alcohol. Or that mushrooms are the same, when not abused like anything else. Look it doesn’t really matter what you think only that the majority of the population is moving forward. So, because it’s popular in the current climate, you can be as anti-science as you want.

But I thought a PP upthread said these were harmless substances and you are saying they are addictive and people will need treatment? Which is it?

[Anonymous]

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DC4Life wrote:Agreed. Smoking in public and outside is technically illegal. Though DC and the mayor, and the council have decided NOT to enforce the laws and turn a blind eye. Had I known that, I NEVER would have voted for legalization. Now, on the ballot is Initiative 81, for legalization of hallucinogenics. Thought they way the ballot is written, it seems like a positive thing. After witnessing a tripping man having sex with our retaining wall, and the ever present drugs of all kind in DC, we are voting against Initiative 81. I urge everyone to do the same.

As for your neighbors, you are legally able to enjoy your property. If the neighbors are doing something that prevents your from enjoying your property, then you can force them to stop. Sending a letter to landlord is a good first step. Talking to them is a good second step.

Problem is that most people are completely clueless about the laws in DC, as can be seen by some of the responses in this thread. People think that smoking in public is permitted but it is not. There needs to be a movement to push back again the drug users as their lobby and misinformation has gotten so strong that you can't say anything against pot before getting attacked.

This is not really the environment we want to raise our children. The Mayor and Council are eyeing the future tax revues of the legalization of drugs. The rest of us can just move out if we don't want to smell the stench all day and night.

As someone who recently started using mushrooms for therapy (amazingly effective btw. Made a change overnight to my depression and anxiety stemming from years of sexual abuse) I can almost guarantee that the guy who you think was tripping and having sex against your retaining wall was NOT on mushrooms. Mushrooms make a person introspective and mostly quiet in demeanor and behavior. Sex is not something most people even think about. I would bet good money he was on another drug.

Everybody claims that their drug of choice is harmless.

Take your DARE campaign to someone who cares. Your attitude is not prevalent with young voters. Intelligent folks look to Portugal and its history of decriminalization of drugs, it’s focus on medical treatment rather than jail for addiction, and all the other subsequent benefits as a result of this policy. You are a dinosaur whose opinion soon won’t matter.

Whoa! You mean using these substances can cause addiction? Is that harmless? If so, why do addicts need help? Who pays for that help?

The same people who normally pay more for a long prison stay and all the quantifiable and unquantifiable treble harms as a result of treating addiction like a crime rather than a sickness. You can throw in effects on users children from the effects of their parents being ripped from their home and sent to jail, versus something more productive like treatment. You can also keep banging your head against the wall for another 80 years trying to enforce prohibition of a plant, which is a war on people, we lose, and which only feeds drug cartel profits. Or you could legalize and use the tax money for treatment and school budgets. which Trump folks like to cut. I get it. You’re a “strong on Crime pragmatist” who probably has no clue that marijuana, by all medical studies (nhs, lancet) shows that it’s the thousands of times less harmful than alcohol. Or that mushrooms are the same, when not abused like anything else. Look it doesn’t really matter what you think only that the majority of the population is moving forward. So, because it’s popular in the current climate, you can be as anti-science as you want.

But I thought a PP upthread said these were harmless substances and you are saying they are addictive and people will need treatment? Which is it?

Hi, are you able to critically reason or do you just add sophomoric, unhelpful commentary to complex issues?

The harms and costs of prison, a tarnished record and subsequent impacts on future employment, all outweigh the harms of marijuana and mushrooms. I don’t have time to Google all the actually physical and mental impacts of using them, but there are many medical studies which include charts that highlight the severity and damage of different intoxicants. Alcohol is number one. Worse than heroin. Marijuana is last. Mushrooms are way down on the list. They are not habit forming either and don’t cause long lasting damage to liver or anything else for that matter, unless a user is predisposed fo schizophrenia or other mental health disorder. What I am trying to say in plain terms that you can grasp is that doing these things recreationally, and not abusing them, but using the judgement of an ordinary person of reasonable prudence, won’t lead you to become a salivating mess long term. Mushrooms are also shown to have positive effects on depression. Marijuana and mushrooms were fine for thousands of years. There is documented history of marijuana use in 3000bc China, people in Peru use ayahuasca as part of their religion. We just happen to live in a highly religious country descended from Puritanism which seeks to criminalize pleasure or anything that might take someone away from Jesus. So keep adding stupid comments. If you’ve never tried pot, you should. In a small dose. In a cookie. You won’t wake up with a hangover. As an employer, I’d much rather my employee have smoked a joint the night before and not be hungover unable to move.

[Anonymous]

Well, if they were smoking joints in china millions of years ago, then that makes it ok then.

I still don't want anyone near me toking up. It stinks and is disgusting. Do it in your house where no one else has to be forced to see, smell, breath in your disgusting habit.

[Anonymous]

This is for the dipsht internet trolls on here. https://time.com/longform/portugal-drug-use-decriminalization/

I know it’s hard to believe, but legalization is a better path. The best part is that you will be dragged kicking and screaming into the future regardless of your belief. Weed is going to legalized nationwide soon. More states legalize every year. The next big awakening is psychedelics. So keep up your smug little comments because they do not matter. I bet you support trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, if they were smoking joints in china millions of years ago, then that makes it ok then.

I still don't want anyone near me toking up. It stinks and is disgusting. Do it in your house where no one else has to be forced to see, smell, breath in your disgusting habit.

No. I won’t. I’ll smoke on my porch and you will move.

[Anonymous]

"No. I won’t. I’ll smoke on my porch and you will move. "

That kind of attitude is what gets your A$$ kicked to the curb. Do you really think people will put up with your arrogance in the real world? Fine to hide behind your anonymity here but in the real world you not have the guts to say it. Your spinless.

As far as accusing people of being trump supporters, you are assuming that all people against your liberal far left lifestyle of smoking dope all day long are trump supporters. I am sure there are pot smokers on both sides of the political spectrum. This has nothing to do with politics, just arrogant people who want to force others to live their lifestyle.

[Anonymous]

Everyone knows there is ZERO desire by the city to enforce people smoking weed outside. It ain’t going to happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, if they were smoking joints in china millions of years ago, then that makes it ok then.

I still don't want anyone near me toking up. It stinks and is disgusting. Do it in your house where no one else has to be forced to see, smell, breath in your disgusting habit.

No. I won’t. I’ll smoke on my porch and you will move.

Republican Trumpkin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, if they were smoking joints in china millions of years ago, then that makes it ok then.

I still don't want anyone near me toking up. It stinks and is disgusting. Do it in your house where no one else has to be forced to see, smell, breath in your disgusting habit.

No. I won’t. I’ll smoke on my porch and you will move.

+100, move to Utah or some other bassackwards red state where they lock people up for a friggin’ PLANT. Weed is here to stay. Don’t like it? GTFO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DC4Life wrote:Agreed. Smoking in public and outside is technically illegal. Though DC and the mayor, and the council have decided NOT to enforce the laws and turn a blind eye. Had I known that, I NEVER would have voted for legalization. Now, on the ballot is Initiative 81, for legalization of hallucinogenics. Thought they way the ballot is written, it seems like a positive thing. After witnessing a tripping man having sex with our retaining wall, and the ever present drugs of all kind in DC, we are voting against Initiative 81. I urge everyone to do the same.

As for your neighbors, you are legally able to enjoy your property. If the neighbors are doing something that prevents your from enjoying your property, then you can force them to stop. Sending a letter to landlord is a good first step. Talking to them is a good second step.

Problem is that most people are completely clueless about the laws in DC, as can be seen by some of the responses in this thread. People think that smoking in public is permitted but it is not. There needs to be a movement to push back again the drug users as their lobby and misinformation has gotten so strong that you can't say anything against pot before getting attacked.

This is not really the environment we want to raise our children. The Mayor and Council are eyeing the future tax revues of the legalization of drugs. The rest of us can just move out if we don't want to smell the stench all day and night.

Thank you. I'm amazed so many people say this is NBD. Would it be NBD if boozy neighbors broke all their liquor bottles on your property every day, making it unusable to you and your family?

Poor analogy. Broken liquor bottles (and busted out car windows) line our streets and no one does anything about it. There hasn't been street sweeping in DC all year. Now we have a nice mix of a layer of leaves covering broken glass, and residents are responsible for bagging leaves this year (when in previous years, the city did it). Good times all around. Don't forget the used condoms all over the streets. Pot is the least of our worries in this city. Put some charcoal filters into your face masks.

PP. I agree that voting to decriminalize marijuana was a mistake. Perfect example of "this is why we can't have nice things." I will also vote against any effort to decriminalize other illicit drugs and prostitution. It's a position of privilege to say that people should be able to do what they want in their own homes. Those of us who live in neighborhoods terrorized by strung out addicts and perverts know that this should NOT be encouraged.

[Anonymous]

“Terrorized by strung out addicts?”

Whatsamatter? The local 7-11 constantly sold out of Nachos?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Drugs are mostly for the lower class.

Class is just an illusion of control.
Try a mushroom you’ll understand.

[Anonymous]

Wow! Love it!