What changes in the TJ admissions procedure do you predict this year ?

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For anyone interested in actual suggestions, the school board will address TJ Admissions in September 15 meeting:

https://insys.fcps.edu/schoolboardapps/meetings.cfm

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Anonymous wrote:Wait...did white kids lose seats, too? Or did they just remove n Asians and replace them with n URMs?

They haven't done anything yet. It is unlikely that white students would lose seats in any sort of admissions shake-up - they and every other demographic besides Asian would almost certainly gain seats because of increased interest from high-achievers in those communities in the application process.

If you don't force a 13-year-old to sit for a three hour exam on two separate Saturdays, you will definitely increase the number of white students.

TJ must diversify in order to continue to attract the best and brightest and to service all races/ socioeconomic backgroundS. You can’t continue to offer admissions only to Asians who gain admission via intense prep. My DC is a genius, as confirmed by an IQ test. DC attained a perfect SAT score the first and only time they sat for the SAT. Also a National Merit Scholar. Well qualified for TJ, but refused to even apply as they are Caucasian and didn’t want to go school for 4 years with all Asians. Would never have been a fit socially.

It is only your perception that admission is only offered to those who prep. That is not the reality of the situation. A large contingency who prep, yes. But not the majority.

Curie claims 28% of the TJ Class of 2024 and they are FAR from the only prep company. FAR.

That is just your racist imagination running away from you.

Um, no.... it's what they claimed in their since-deleted Facebook post from August 17th.

That accounts for the 28%, but your "FAR" allegation stems from your racist imagination.

Um, no..... you have Optimal TJ Prep, Kate Dalby, Sunshine, Kumon, Mathnasium, C3, Fairfax Collegiate..... the list goes on and on.

It is pretty common that these prep companies get copies of the exams which appears to be what happened with Curie.

I think there is something very suspect about Curie.

Multiple current TJ students have said that Curie had special access to the test. No other prep company has been called out like this. If you have any statements to share, I would love to see them. So far, I have only seen Curie called out by current students.

Curie also went from 51 students two years ago to 133 this year. They must have something unique that the other prep companies did not have. Based on what the TJ students have said on TJ Vents, it appears that that the something special is the Quant Q ahead of time.

Again owner of the Prep place that did not get any students in TJ ....you are actually promoting Curie here , I hope you realize that. Your posts about Curie on this forum are actually the best kind of advertising for them. Indian parents who did not know about it are now convinced that Curie is the place their child should go for TJ prep. Curie owners should send you a thank you letter for the free advertising.

1) Why only Indian parents?

2) How is it helpful for parents to sign up for Curie now when they have no idea what the admissions process will look like this year, much less next?

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Wow. Just took a look at the school board agenda for September 15 - really hard to understand how one week into DL, at the first meeting since school started, the board is going to spend 3 hours talking about admissions process to a single high school that affects a fraction of kids who are interested in applying. I support reform, but can't believe that the first school board meeting is not dedicated to an assessment of DL and how to ensure our most vulnerable kids back into schools safely. Odd priorities.

If you asked the parent of a FARMS kid right now what mattered to them - do you think they would pick the admissions process for a high school their kid might never have an interest in or do you think they would be concerned with parents who have to work outside the home, unsupervised kids trying to do DL, the 65% decrease in calls to CPS since kids stopped going to school?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just took a look at the school board agenda for September 15 - really hard to understand how one week into DL, at the first meeting since school started, the board is going to spend 3 hours talking about admissions process to a single high school that affects a fraction of kids who are interested in applying. I support reform, but can't believe that the first school board meeting is not dedicated to an assessment of DL and how to ensure our most vulnerable kids back into schools safely. Odd priorities.

If you asked the parent of a FARMS kid right now what mattered to them - do you think they would pick the admissions process for a high school their kid might never have an interest in or do you think they would be concerned with parents who have to work outside the home, unsupervised kids trying to do DL, the 65% decrease in calls to CPS since kids stopped going to school?

This is a specifically scheduled work session on a matter of significant time sensitivity, not a regularly scheduled Board meeting. The admissions process is underway and will affect at least 2500 kids, unless application numbers continue to plummet. Their deadline will have to be relatively soon, and parents will want to know what the process is before they apply.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just took a look at the school board agenda for September 15 - really hard to understand how one week into DL, at the first meeting since school started, the board is going to spend 3 hours talking about admissions process to a single high school that affects a fraction of kids who are interested in applying. I support reform, but can't believe that the first school board meeting is not dedicated to an assessment of DL and how to ensure our most vulnerable kids back into schools safely. Odd priorities.

If you asked the parent of a FARMS kid right now what mattered to them - do you think they would pick the admissions process for a high school their kid might never have an interest in or do you think they would be concerned with parents who have to work outside the home, unsupervised kids trying to do DL, the 65% decrease in calls to CPS since kids stopped going to school?

This is a specifically scheduled work session on a matter of significant time sensitivity, not a regularly scheduled Board meeting. The admissions process is underway and will affect at least 2500 kids, unless application numbers continue to plummet. Their deadline will have to be relatively soon, and parents will want to know what the process is before they apply.

They should discuss AAP admissions and the appeals process which are more important.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just took a look at the school board agenda for September 15 - really hard to understand how one week into DL, at the first meeting since school started, the board is going to spend 3 hours talking about admissions process to a single high school that affects a fraction of kids who are interested in applying. I support reform, but can't believe that the first school board meeting is not dedicated to an assessment of DL and how to ensure our most vulnerable kids back into schools safely. Odd priorities.

If you asked the parent of a FARMS kid right now what mattered to them - do you think they would pick the admissions process for a high school their kid might never have an interest in or do you think they would be concerned with parents who have to work outside the home, unsupervised kids trying to do DL, the 65% decrease in calls to CPS since kids stopped going to school?

This is a specifically scheduled work session on a matter of significant time sensitivity, not a regularly scheduled Board meeting. The admissions process is underway and will affect at least 2500 kids, unless application numbers continue to plummet. Their deadline will have to be relatively soon, and parents will want to know what the process is before they apply.

wow - a whole 2,500 students out of 188,000 in FCPS - I can see how this "regularly scheduled" meeting would take precedence in these completely normal times instead of spending time reviewing attendance for every DL grade level and for at-risk FARMS/URMs and figuring out how to get those at-risk kids the best education we can. Must be nice in your bubble. Also, the TJ admissions process typically starts in NOV - figuring out how it will look in the current environment could wait a couple weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just took a look at the school board agenda for September 15 - really hard to understand how one week into DL, at the first meeting since school started, the board is going to spend 3 hours talking about admissions process to a single high school that affects a fraction of kids who are interested in applying. I support reform, but can't believe that the first school board meeting is not dedicated to an assessment of DL and how to ensure our most vulnerable kids back into schools safely. Odd priorities.

If you asked the parent of a FARMS kid right now what mattered to them - do you think they would pick the admissions process for a high school their kid might never have an interest in or do you think they would be concerned with parents who have to work outside the home, unsupervised kids trying to do DL, the 65% decrease in calls to CPS since kids stopped going to school?

This is a specifically scheduled work session on a matter of significant time sensitivity, not a regularly scheduled Board meeting. The admissions process is underway and will affect at least 2500 kids, unless application numbers continue to plummet. Their deadline will have to be relatively soon, and parents will want to know what the process is before they apply.

wow - a whole 2,500 students out of 188,000 in FCPS - I can see how this "regularly scheduled" meeting would take precedence in these completely normal times instead of spending time reviewing attendance for every DL grade level and for at-risk FARMS/URMs and figuring out how to get those at-risk kids the best education we can. Must be nice in your bubble. Also, the TJ admissions process typically starts in NOV - figuring out how it will look in the current environment could wait a couple weeks.

That's false. The deadline for applications for the last several years has been at the end of September. Get your facts straight before you pop off and tell on yourself.

And acting like they're not dealing with those other extremely important issues as well is disingenuous.

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If by "applications" you mean the online 5 minute portal in which you click a bubble to confirm your eligibility and sign up for the test, sure - then end of September is important. Can't imagine they can't push that back a few weeks at least. First test (which most seem to predict won't happen) is traditionally in Nov, right? My DS is a senior at TJ so it has been awhile...

Also, what evidence do you have that the SB is "dealing with those other extremely important issues"? all I can see is the agendas of the meetings - TJ on the 15th of Sep and back to school on 22 Sep. I think those meetings should be reversed.

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Nothing to do with the above posts but I still don't see why Loudoun County Public Schools are allowed to send kids to TJ. Any of their board meetings wasting time with this when it effects so few of the population?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just took a look at the school board agenda for September 15 - really hard to understand how one week into DL, at the first meeting since school started, the board is going to spend 3 hours talking about admissions process to a single high school that affects a fraction of kids who are interested in applying. I support reform, but can't believe that the first school board meeting is not dedicated to an assessment of DL and how to ensure our most vulnerable kids back into schools safely. Odd priorities.

If you asked the parent of a FARMS kid right now what mattered to them - do you think they would pick the admissions process for a high school their kid might never have an interest in or do you think they would be concerned with parents who have to work outside the home, unsupervised kids trying to do DL, the 65% decrease in calls to CPS since kids stopped going to school?

This is a specifically scheduled work session on a matter of significant time sensitivity, not a regularly scheduled Board meeting. The admissions process is underway and will affect at least 2500 kids, unless application numbers continue to plummet. Their deadline will have to be relatively soon, and parents will want to know what the process is before they apply.

wow - a whole 2,500 students out of 188,000 in FCPS - I can see how this "regularly scheduled" meeting would take precedence in these completely normal times instead of spending time reviewing attendance for every DL grade level and for at-risk FARMS/URMs and figuring out how to get those at-risk kids the best education we can. Must be nice in your bubble. Also, the TJ admissions process typically starts in NOV - figuring out how it will look in the current environment could wait a couple weeks.

AGREE. This is ridiculous. The overwhelming majority of us couldn't care less about TJ admissions. Unfortunately, money talks. TJ is a huge driver for Fairfax County and FCPS. FCPS rides on the reputation of TJ, even though the rest of the schools are lacking, and many tech companies are drawn to the area because of the pipeline and perception the school creates for the area, in addition to schools like VA Tech, which is why Tech is building a shiny new state of the art campus in ffx. It's all about money, so something tells me this meeting is set up to make it appear that FCPS gives a crap about minorities, and slight changes will be made for appearances sake, but they probably wouldn't do anything that would affect the quality of the school, considering all of the business interests they have on their backs, and maybe even in their pockets.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. Just took a look at the school board agenda for September 15 - really hard to understand how one week into DL, at the first meeting since school started, the board is going to spend 3 hours talking about admissions process to a single high school that affects a fraction of kids who are interested in applying. I support reform, but can't believe that the first school board meeting is not dedicated to an assessment of DL and how to ensure our most vulnerable kids back into schools safely. Odd priorities.

If you asked the parent of a FARMS kid right now what mattered to them - do you think they would pick the admissions process for a high school their kid might never have an interest in or do you think they would be concerned with parents who have to work outside the home, unsupervised kids trying to do DL, the 65% decrease in calls to CPS since kids stopped going to school?

This is a specifically scheduled work session on a matter of significant time sensitivity, not a regularly scheduled Board meeting. The admissions process is underway and will affect at least 2500 kids, unless application numbers continue to plummet. Their deadline will have to be relatively soon, and parents will want to know what the process is before they apply.

wow - a whole 2,500 students out of 188,000 in FCPS - I can see how this "regularly scheduled" meeting would take precedence in these completely normal times instead of spending time reviewing attendance for every DL grade level and for at-risk FARMS/URMs and figuring out how to get those at-risk kids the best education we can. Must be nice in your bubble. Also, the TJ admissions process typically starts in NOV - figuring out how it will look in the current environment could wait a couple weeks.

AGREE. This is ridiculous. The overwhelming majority of us couldn't care less about TJ admissions. Unfortunately, money talks. TJ is a huge driver for Fairfax County and FCPS. FCPS rides on the reputation of TJ, even though the rest of the schools are lacking, and many tech companies are drawn to the area because of the pipeline and perception the school creates for the area, in addition to schools like VA Tech, which is why Tech is building a shiny new state of the art campus in ffx. It's all about money, so something tells me this meeting is set up to make it appear that FCPS gives a crap about minorities, and slight changes will be made for appearances sake, but they probably wouldn't do anything that would affect the quality of the school, considering all of the business interests they have on their backs, and maybe even in their pockets.

1) You clicked on a link for a thread regarding TJ admissions

2) Thankfully, efforts to improve the representation of Black and Hispanic students are likely to have a net positive impact on the educational value of the school. Businesses in the area are interested in investing in diversity as well, and indeed TJ's reputation in Northern Virginia is likely to improve significantly as a result of these efforts.

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2) Thankfully, efforts to improve the representation of Black and Hispanic students are likely to have a net positive impact on the educational value of the school. Businesses in the area are interested in investing in diversity as well, and indeed TJ's reputation in Northern Virginia is likely to improve significantly as a result of these efforts.

Doubtful. The efforts to improve the GT program by calling it AAP and getting more people in it has not received the results planned.

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2) Thankfully, efforts to improve the representation of Black and Hispanic students are likely to have a net positive impact on the educational value of the school. Businesses in the area are interested in investing in diversity as well, and indeed TJ's reputation in Northern Virginia is likely to improve significantly as a result of these efforts.

Doubtful. The efforts to improve the GT program by calling it AAP and getting more people in it has not received the results planned.

Likely that has more to do with a terrible appeals process and an expansion of the program that has watered it down somewhat.

This effort is more about replacing students whose strongest skill is test taking with students whose strongest skill is contributing to an elite and collaborative academic environment. I don't think they'll increase the numbers at the school at all and there still probably won't be an appeals process that invites corruption.

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This effort is more about replacing students whose strongest skill is test taking with students whose strongest skill is contributing to an elite and collaborative academic environment.

Why are these two things mutually exclusive to you? You don't think strong test takers can contribute to a collaborative academic environment? You thouggt they could when white was the majority, right?

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2) Thankfully, efforts to improve the representation of Black and Hispanic students are likely to have a net positive impact on the educational value of the school. Businesses in the area are interested in investing in diversity as well, and indeed TJ's reputation in Northern Virginia is likely to improve significantly as a result of these efforts.

Don't pretend you care about an increase in black/ Hispanic representation. You know it's all about giving more whites a chance. Be honest with yourself