What changes in the TJ admissions procedure do you predict this year ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a Korean-American parent at Rachel Carson (7th grade this year) and my kid will not be applying to TJ unless there are significant changes to the admissions process.

I see what goes on in our pyramid here among the parents that are totally TJ-focused and I don't have any interest in being a part of a community like that, Asian or otherwise. Parents using volunteer opportunities as a way to control access to certain programs, the obsessive prep culture, the way they demand things out of the poor teachers.... it's all just gross.

Imagine being a part of a whole school filled with parents like that - even if many are not, the ones who behave that way are just so toxic and disgusting.

From what I hear, I don't doubt that the Carson culture is the way you describe. Maybe even the Longfellow culture. Although a large number of TJ admits are from these two schools, there are many, many admits from other middle schools. Just because you are living in a certain toxic reality, that doesn't make it so for everyone, everywhere. TJ students come from more than 80 middle schools. Not everyone is as crazy as the Carson/Longfellow families.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait...did white kids lose seats, too? Or did they just remove n Asians and replace them with n URMs?

They haven't done anything yet. It is unlikely that white students would lose seats in any sort of admissions shake-up - they and every other demographic besides Asian would almost certainly gain seats because of increased interest from high-achievers in those communities in the application process.

If you don't force a 13-year-old to sit for a three hour exam on two separate Saturdays, you will definitely increase the number of white students.

TJ must diversify in order to continue to attract the best and brightest and to service all races/ socioeconomic backgroundS. You can’t continue to offer admissions only to Asians who gain admission via intense prep. My DC is a genius, as confirmed by an IQ test. DC attained a perfect SAT score the first and only time they sat for the SAT. Also a National Merit Scholar. Well qualified for TJ, but refused to even apply as they are Caucasian and didn’t want to go school for 4 years with all Asians. Would never have been a fit socially.

It is only your perception that admission is only offered to those who prep. That is not the reality of the situation. A large contingency who prep, yes. But not the majority.

Curie claims 28% of the TJ Class of 2024 and they are FAR from the only prep company. FAR.

That is just your racist imagination running away from you.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait...did white kids lose seats, too? Or did they just remove n Asians and replace them with n URMs?

They haven't done anything yet. It is unlikely that white students would lose seats in any sort of admissions shake-up - they and every other demographic besides Asian would almost certainly gain seats because of increased interest from high-achievers in those communities in the application process.

If you don't force a 13-year-old to sit for a three hour exam on two separate Saturdays, you will definitely increase the number of white students.

TJ must diversify in order to continue to attract the best and brightest and to service all races/ socioeconomic backgroundS. You can’t continue to offer admissions only to Asians who gain admission via intense prep. My DC is a genius, as confirmed by an IQ test. DC attained a perfect SAT score the first and only time they sat for the SAT. Also a National Merit Scholar. Well qualified for TJ, but refused to even apply as they are Caucasian and didn’t want to go school for 4 years with all Asians. Would never have been a fit socially.

It is only your perception that admission is only offered to those who prep. That is not the reality of the situation. A large contingency who prep, yes. But not the majority.

Curie claims 28% of the TJ Class of 2024 and they are FAR from the only prep company. FAR.

That is just your racist imagination running away from you.

Um, no.... it's what they claimed in their since-deleted Facebook post from August 17th.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Korean-American parent at Rachel Carson (7th grade this year) and my kid will not be applying to TJ unless there are significant changes to the admissions process.

I see what goes on in our pyramid here among the parents that are totally TJ-focused and I don't have any interest in being a part of a community like that, Asian or otherwise. Parents using volunteer opportunities as a way to control access to certain programs, the obsessive prep culture, the way they demand things out of the poor teachers.... it's all just gross.

Imagine being a part of a whole school filled with parents like that - even if many are not, the ones who behave that way are just so toxic and disgusting.

From what I hear, I don't doubt that the Carson culture is the way you describe. Maybe even the Longfellow culture. Although a large number of TJ admits are from these two schools, there are many, many admits from other middle schools. Just because you are living in a certain toxic reality, that doesn't make it so for everyone, everywhere. TJ students come from more than 80 middle schools. Not everyone is as crazy as the Carson/Longfellow families.

We declined our offer of admission to the Class of 2023 (last year), in part because of the parent behavior that we witnessed at Freshmen Orientation. Shoving their way through the crowds, taking up an insane amount of time with administrators and counselors, bringing six or seven relatives (and cars!) to an event that had limited space.... just a total lack of social consciousness. Went to a strong academic private school instead and couldn't be more thrilled with our decision.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait...did white kids lose seats, too? Or did they just remove n Asians and replace them with n URMs?

They haven't done anything yet. It is unlikely that white students would lose seats in any sort of admissions shake-up - they and every other demographic besides Asian would almost certainly gain seats because of increased interest from high-achievers in those communities in the application process.

If you don't force a 13-year-old to sit for a three hour exam on two separate Saturdays, you will definitely increase the number of white students.

TJ must diversify in order to continue to attract the best and brightest and to service all races/ socioeconomic backgroundS. You can’t continue to offer admissions only to Asians who gain admission via intense prep. My DC is a genius, as confirmed by an IQ test. DC attained a perfect SAT score the first and only time they sat for the SAT. Also a National Merit Scholar. Well qualified for TJ, but refused to even apply as they are Caucasian and didn’t want to go school for 4 years with all Asians. Would never have been a fit socially.

It is only your perception that admission is only offered to those who prep. That is not the reality of the situation. A large contingency who prep, yes. But not the majority.

Curie claims 28% of the TJ Class of 2024 and they are FAR from the only prep company. FAR.

That is just your racist imagination running away from you.

Um, no.... it's what they claimed in their since-deleted Facebook post from August 17th.

That accounts for the 28%, but your "FAR" allegation stems from your racist imagination.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Korean-American parent at Rachel Carson (7th grade this year) and my kid will not be applying to TJ unless there are significant changes to the admissions process.

I see what goes on in our pyramid here among the parents that are totally TJ-focused and I don't have any interest in being a part of a community like that, Asian or otherwise. Parents using volunteer opportunities as a way to control access to certain programs, the obsessive prep culture, the way they demand things out of the poor teachers.... it's all just gross.

Imagine being a part of a whole school filled with parents like that - even if many are not, the ones who behave that way are just so toxic and disgusting.

From what I hear, I don't doubt that the Carson culture is the way you describe. Maybe even the Longfellow culture. Although a large number of TJ admits are from these two schools, there are many, many admits from other middle schools. Just because you are living in a certain toxic reality, that doesn't make it so for everyone, everywhere. TJ students come from more than 80 middle schools. Not everyone is as crazy as the Carson/Longfellow families.

We declined our offer of admission to the Class of 2023 (last year), in part because of the parent behavior that we witnessed at Freshmen Orientation. Shoving their way through the crowds, taking up an insane amount of time with administrators and counselors, bringing six or seven relatives (and cars!) to an event that had limited space.... just a total lack of social consciousness. Went to a strong academic private school instead and couldn't be more thrilled with our decision.

Well, la-de-da for you. Unfortunate for your DC who missed out on an amazing opportunity because you chose to base your perception of an entire school on a few annoying parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait...did white kids lose seats, too? Or did they just remove n Asians and replace them with n URMs?

They haven't done anything yet. It is unlikely that white students would lose seats in any sort of admissions shake-up - they and every other demographic besides Asian would almost certainly gain seats because of increased interest from high-achievers in those communities in the application process.

If you don't force a 13-year-old to sit for a three hour exam on two separate Saturdays, you will definitely increase the number of white students.

TJ must diversify in order to continue to attract the best and brightest and to service all races/ socioeconomic backgroundS. You can’t continue to offer admissions only to Asians who gain admission via intense prep. My DC is a genius, as confirmed by an IQ test. DC attained a perfect SAT score the first and only time they sat for the SAT. Also a National Merit Scholar. Well qualified for TJ, but refused to even apply as they are Caucasian and didn’t want to go school for 4 years with all Asians. Would never have been a fit socially.

It is only your perception that admission is only offered to those who prep. That is not the reality of the situation. A large contingency who prep, yes. But not the majority.

Curie claims 28% of the TJ Class of 2024 and they are FAR from the only prep company. FAR.

That is just your racist imagination running away from you.

Um, no.... it's what they claimed in their since-deleted Facebook post from August 17th.

That accounts for the 28%, but your "FAR" allegation stems from your racist imagination.

Um, no..... you have Optimal TJ Prep, Kate Dalby, Sunshine, Kumon, Mathnasium, C3, Fairfax Collegiate..... the list goes on and on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wait...did white kids lose seats, too? Or did they just remove n Asians and replace them with n URMs?

They haven't done anything yet. It is unlikely that white students would lose seats in any sort of admissions shake-up - they and every other demographic besides Asian would almost certainly gain seats because of increased interest from high-achievers in those communities in the application process.

If you don't force a 13-year-old to sit for a three hour exam on two separate Saturdays, you will definitely increase the number of white students.

TJ must diversify in order to continue to attract the best and brightest and to service all races/ socioeconomic backgroundS. You can’t continue to offer admissions only to Asians who gain admission via intense prep. My DC is a genius, as confirmed by an IQ test. DC attained a perfect SAT score the first and only time they sat for the SAT. Also a National Merit Scholar. Well qualified for TJ, but refused to even apply as they are Caucasian and didn’t want to go school for 4 years with all Asians. Would never have been a fit socially.

Right. Your white DC is a genius but all the Asians admitted to TJ are robots who qualified only due to intense prep. And he doesn't want to go to school with all Asians.

You're a racist and your child is a racist as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TJ is far from getting the diversity they want. If they can’t get white kids that already qualify to attend, they are not going to be able to get black or Latino kids to want to even qualify to attend.

If the FCPS School Board continued on their current trajectory and as part of improving the TJ admissions process made a powerful statement that bringing in exceptionally talented students from diverse backgrounds, diverse interests above and beyond STEM, and diverse areas of the county - you would see a serious increase in the number of applications from strong students across the board.

Why would a STEM-focused school want students not interested in STEM?

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Anonymous wrote:Wait...did white kids lose seats, too? Or did they just remove n Asians and replace them with n URMs?

They haven't done anything yet. It is unlikely that white students would lose seats in any sort of admissions shake-up - they and every other demographic besides Asian would almost certainly gain seats because of increased interest from high-achievers in those communities in the application process.

If you don't force a 13-year-old to sit for a three hour exam on two separate Saturdays, you will definitely increase the number of white students.

TJ must diversify in order to continue to attract the best and brightest and to service all races/ socioeconomic backgroundS. You can’t continue to offer admissions only to Asians who gain admission via intense prep. My DC is a genius, as confirmed by an IQ test. DC attained a perfect SAT score the first and only time they sat for the SAT. Also a National Merit Scholar. Well qualified for TJ, but refused to even apply as they are Caucasian and didn’t want to go school for 4 years with all Asians. Would never have been a fit socially.

White students stopped applying which mirrors the AA and Hispanic trend.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait...did white kids lose seats, too? Or did they just remove n Asians and replace them with n URMs?

They haven't done anything yet. It is unlikely that white students would lose seats in any sort of admissions shake-up - they and every other demographic besides Asian would almost certainly gain seats because of increased interest from high-achievers in those communities in the application process.

If you don't force a 13-year-old to sit for a three hour exam on two separate Saturdays, you will definitely increase the number of white students.

TJ must diversify in order to continue to attract the best and brightest and to service all races/ socioeconomic backgroundS. You can’t continue to offer admissions only to Asians who gain admission via intense prep. My DC is a genius, as confirmed by an IQ test. DC attained a perfect SAT score the first and only time they sat for the SAT. Also a National Merit Scholar. Well qualified for TJ, but refused to even apply as they are Caucasian and didn’t want to go school for 4 years with all Asians. Would never have been a fit socially.

It is only your perception that admission is only offered to those who prep. That is not the reality of the situation. A large contingency who prep, yes. But not the majority.

Curie claims 28% of the TJ Class of 2024 and they are FAR from the only prep company. FAR.

That is just your racist imagination running away from you.

Um, no.... it's what they claimed in their since-deleted Facebook post from August 17th.

That accounts for the 28%, but your "FAR" allegation stems from your racist imagination.

Um, no..... you have Optimal TJ Prep, Kate Dalby, Sunshine, Kumon, Mathnasium, C3, Fairfax Collegiate..... the list goes on and on.

It is pretty common that these prep companies get copies of the exams which appears to be what happened with Curie.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TJ is far from getting the diversity they want. If they can’t get white kids that already qualify to attend, they are not going to be able to get black or Latino kids to want to even qualify to attend.

If the FCPS School Board continued on their current trajectory and as part of improving the TJ admissions process made a powerful statement that bringing in exceptionally talented students from diverse backgrounds, diverse interests above and beyond STEM, and diverse areas of the county - you would see a serious increase in the number of applications from strong students across the board.

Why would a STEM-focused school want students not interested in STEM?

They do want students interested in STEM, and they should. If they prioritized finding students who had additional interests above and beyond STEM, the school would be a much, much healthier place than it is right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TJ is far from getting the diversity they want. If they can’t get white kids that already qualify to attend, they are not going to be able to get black or Latino kids to want to even qualify to attend.

White kids are not applying.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait...did white kids lose seats, too? Or did they just remove n Asians and replace them with n URMs?

They haven't done anything yet. It is unlikely that white students would lose seats in any sort of admissions shake-up - they and every other demographic besides Asian would almost certainly gain seats because of increased interest from high-achievers in those communities in the application process.

If you don't force a 13-year-old to sit for a three hour exam on two separate Saturdays, you will definitely increase the number of white students.

TJ must diversify in order to continue to attract the best and brightest and to service all races/ socioeconomic backgroundS. You can’t continue to offer admissions only to Asians who gain admission via intense prep. My DC is a genius, as confirmed by an IQ test. DC attained a perfect SAT score the first and only time they sat for the SAT. Also a National Merit Scholar. Well qualified for TJ, but refused to even apply as they are Caucasian and didn’t want to go school for 4 years with all Asians. Would never have been a fit socially.

It is only your perception that admission is only offered to those who prep. That is not the reality of the situation. A large contingency who prep, yes. But not the majority.

Curie claims 28% of the TJ Class of 2024 and they are FAR from the only prep company. FAR.

That is just your racist imagination running away from you.

Um, no.... it's what they claimed in their since-deleted Facebook post from August 17th.

That accounts for the 28%, but your "FAR" allegation stems from your racist imagination.

Um, no..... you have Optimal TJ Prep, Kate Dalby, Sunshine, Kumon, Mathnasium, C3, Fairfax Collegiate..... the list goes on and on.

It is pretty common that these prep companies get copies of the exams which appears to be what happened with Curie.

I think there is something very suspect about Curie.

Multiple current TJ students have said that Curie had special access to the test. No other prep company has been called out like this. If you have any statements to share, I would love to see them. So far, I have only seen Curie called out by current students.

Curie also went from 51 students two years ago to 133 this year. They must have something unique that the other prep companies did not have. Based on what the TJ students have said on TJ Vents, it appears that that the something special is the Quant Q ahead of time.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait...did white kids lose seats, too? Or did they just remove n Asians and replace them with n URMs?

They haven't done anything yet. It is unlikely that white students would lose seats in any sort of admissions shake-up - they and every other demographic besides Asian would almost certainly gain seats because of increased interest from high-achievers in those communities in the application process.

If you don't force a 13-year-old to sit for a three hour exam on two separate Saturdays, you will definitely increase the number of white students.

TJ must diversify in order to continue to attract the best and brightest and to service all races/ socioeconomic backgroundS. You can’t continue to offer admissions only to Asians who gain admission via intense prep. My DC is a genius, as confirmed by an IQ test. DC attained a perfect SAT score the first and only time they sat for the SAT. Also a National Merit Scholar. Well qualified for TJ, but refused to even apply as they are Caucasian and didn’t want to go school for 4 years with all Asians. Would never have been a fit socially.

It is only your perception that admission is only offered to those who prep. That is not the reality of the situation. A large contingency who prep, yes. But not the majority.

Curie claims 28% of the TJ Class of 2024 and they are FAR from the only prep company. FAR.

That is just your racist imagination running away from you.

Um, no.... it's what they claimed in their since-deleted Facebook post from August 17th.

That accounts for the 28%, but your "FAR" allegation stems from your racist imagination.

Um, no..... you have Optimal TJ Prep, Kate Dalby, Sunshine, Kumon, Mathnasium, C3, Fairfax Collegiate..... the list goes on and on.

It is pretty common that these prep companies get copies of the exams which appears to be what happened with Curie.

I think there is something very suspect about Curie.

Multiple current TJ students have said that Curie had special access to the test. No other prep company has been called out like this. If you have any statements to share, I would love to see them. So far, I have only seen Curie called out by current students.

Curie also went from 51 students two years ago to 133 this year. They must have something unique that the other prep companies did not have. Based on what the TJ students have said on TJ Vents, it appears that that the something special is the Quant Q ahead of time.

Again owner of the Prep place that did not get any students in TJ ....you are actually promoting Curie here , I hope you realize that. Your posts about Curie on this forum are actually the best kind of advertising for them. Indian parents who did not know about it are now convinced that Curie is the place their child should go for TJ prep. Curie owners should send you a thank you letter for the free advertising.