Why do some people say schools will never go back to normal?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hear people say this a lot but I don’t really know what they mean? Are people really saying that in 10 years we won’t have 5 day face to face school anymore? If so, why not? This pandemic won’t last forever. Why wouldn’t schools go back to normal after the pandemic passes?


Traditional public school served only a few types of children anyway. It was designed for middle class white cis girls without special needs. Everyone else is an afterthought. As a teacher, I did my best but I’m thrilled that parents and kids are figuring out better methods of education and won’t return to what did not work for them.

Right here folks, this is the problem with public school teachers in a nutshell. “Cis white girls” okay 😫




Most public school teachers don't buy into this nonsense, but we have to keep quiet about it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Because some people have never studied history.

Some things may be altered in the future, but not completely changed...
for example I predict "snow days" will become distance learning days in the future.



Teacher here. I don't think so. You can't just shift to an online class at a moment's notice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because some people have never studied history.

Some things may be altered in the future, but not completely changed...
for example I predict "snow days" will become distance learning days in the future.



Teacher here. I don't think so. You can't just shift to an online class at a moment's notice.


Minnesota is already doing this in some districts.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I am in favor of the voucher system which i never thought I'd say. But amazing private online schools are under $10k and parents can't afford them so we are stuck with DL.

I hope this lights some fire under the voters and we get a voucher system to close this education gap.

I'm happy for those who can consider private but that option should be for everyone and would be with a voucher system.


Which amazing online private are you looking at?


There’s GWUOHS
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hear people say this a lot but I don’t really know what they mean? Are people really saying that in 10 years we won’t have 5 day face to face school anymore? If so, why not? This pandemic won’t last forever. Why wouldn’t schools go back to normal after the pandemic passes?


Traditional public school served only a few types of children anyway. It was designed for middle class white cis girls without special needs. Everyone else is an afterthought. As a teacher, I did my best but I’m thrilled that parents and kids are figuring out better methods of education and won’t return to what did not work for them.

Right here folks, this is the problem with public school teachers in a nutshell. “Cis white girls” okay 😫




Most public school teachers don't buy into this nonsense, but we have to keep quiet about it.


Is PP implying that children are “privileged to be cis”?!?
Anonymous
As this progresses and DL gets better and better I do think there is a group of kids that will never return to traditional school for any number of reasons. I also think there are going to be a lot of kids who will have deep gaps in their knowledge when they do go back that the schools will ha e to adapt to that and you will have more classrooms based on ability not age which would probably be a good thing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because some people have never studied history.

Some things may be altered in the future, but not completely changed...
for example I predict "snow days" will become distance learning days in the future.



Teacher here. I don't think so. You can't just shift to an online class at a moment's notice.


Minnesota is already doing this in some districts.



Already done it or planning on it? Let’s see if it actually works.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because some people have never studied history.

Some things may be altered in the future, but not completely changed...
for example I predict "snow days" will become distance learning days in the future.



Teacher here. I don't think so. You can't just shift to an online class at a moment's notice.


Minnesota is already doing this in some districts.

Why not? My kids go to private and have done DL for snow days since 2015. What exactly is so hard about it...?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because some people have never studied history.

Some things may be altered in the future, but not completely changed...
for example I predict "snow days" will become distance learning days in the future.



Teacher here. I don't think so. You can't just shift to an online class at a moment's notice.


Minnesota is already doing this in some districts.



Already done it or planning on it? Let’s see if it actually works.


DP, but I’m guessing already done it. I know of districts in the Chicago suburbs and Wisconsin that did remote class online for HS students at least the past 2 winters — pre Covid. The elementary and middle schools did not. (They are also less likely to cancel school except in extreme freezing temps or major snowstorms to begin with too, but that’s an aside.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because some people have never studied history.

Some things may be altered in the future, but not completely changed...
for example I predict "snow days" will become distance learning days in the future.



Teacher here. I don't think so. You can't just shift to an online class at a moment's notice.


Minnesota is already doing this in some districts.



Already done it or planning on it? Let’s see if it actually works.


DP, but I’m guessing already done it. I know of districts in the Chicago suburbs and Wisconsin that did remote class online for HS students at least the past 2 winters — pre Covid. The elementary and middle schools did not. (They are also less likely to cancel school except in extreme freezing temps or major snowstorms to begin with too, but that’s an aside.)



Doing remote learning during a prolonged shut down is one thing. Having online classes on a day where it was just announced at 6am that there will be no snow is another. Do you really think that teachers will all just have their days lessons at hand already converted to a digital format? And schools will no longer even have these Zoom accounts. Snow days will still happen, trust me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because some people have never studied history.

Some things may be altered in the future, but not completely changed...
for example I predict "snow days" will become distance learning days in the future.



Teacher here. I don't think so. You can't just shift to an online class at a moment's notice.


Minnesota is already doing this in some districts.

Why not? My kids go to private and have done DL for snow days since 2015. What exactly is so hard about it...?


Because the materials the teachers were planning on using is in the building? Because there isn’t a teleconference platform like Zoom ready to go? Because not all kids have computers?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because some people have never studied history.

Some things may be altered in the future, but not completely changed...
for example I predict "snow days" will become distance learning days in the future.



Teacher here. I don't think so. You can't just shift to an online class at a moment's notice.


Minnesota is already doing this in some districts.

Why not? My kids go to private and have done DL for snow days since 2015. What exactly is so hard about it...?


Because the materials the teachers were planning on using is in the building? Because there isn’t a teleconference platform like Zoom ready to go? Because not all kids have computers?



ETA, because in a few years everyone will have forgotten how to use zoom.
Anonymous
We are stuck with COVID issues for at least 5 years due to vaccines that aren't fully effective, will take time to roll out, and will not be given to untested groups like children or elderly for a while. The economy will also take time to heal. Public sector tends to lag private sector by a few years since the tax base is relatively stable compared to what companies deal with. Staff turnover and student numbers will also be affected as people move or retire for health or quality of life issues.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because some people have never studied history.

Some things may be altered in the future, but not completely changed...
for example I predict "snow days" will become distance learning days in the future.



Teacher here. I don't think so. You can't just shift to an online class at a moment's notice.


Minnesota is already doing this in some districts.

Why not? My kids go to private and have done DL for snow days since 2015. What exactly is so hard about it...?


Because the materials the teachers were planning on using is in the building? Because there isn’t a teleconference platform like Zoom ready to go? Because not all kids have computers?


I'm the PP that spoke about Minnesota.

Where distance learning snow days are being done, i believe all/most cases are in districts that give everyone Chromebooks. And of course you're right that teaching materials may not have been intended for DL. They certainly don't do a normal class. It's mostly assignments and activities intended for those days.

And, of course, you typically have some advanced notice, since you usually know ahead of time if there's going to be a winter storm.

I know the DL snow days aren't popular. I hear a lot of complaints that they're not particularly effective teaching days. But the alternative was adding days at the end of the year or removing vacation days.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because some people have never studied history.

Some things may be altered in the future, but not completely changed...
for example I predict "snow days" will become distance learning days in the future.



Teacher here. I don't think so. You can't just shift to an online class at a moment's notice.


Minnesota is already doing this in some districts.



Already done it or planning on it? Let’s see if it actually works.


DP, but I’m guessing already done it. I know of districts in the Chicago suburbs and Wisconsin that did remote class online for HS students at least the past 2 winters — pre Covid. The elementary and middle schools did not. (They are also less likely to cancel school except in extreme freezing temps or major snowstorms to begin with too, but that’s an aside.)



Doing remote learning during a prolonged shut down is one thing. Having online classes on a day where it was just announced at 6am that there will be no snow is another. Do you really think that teachers will all just have their days lessons at hand already converted to a digital format? And schools will no longer even have these Zoom accounts. Snow days will still happen, trust me.

Teachers are usually required to have an "emergency sub plan" for days they need to be out on short notice. Mine sits on a folder on my desk at all times. I would do a digital one as well.
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