Why do some people say schools will never go back to normal?

[Anonymous]

Misanthropes and narcissists. Avoid at all costs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First of all, because even if we get a vaccine, if you listen, it would not be 100% effective and would take a year to rollout. We will probably be dealing with COVID in schools through the class of 2022 graduating.

But mostly, it’s like 9/11, but going on for years. There has been a whole paradigm shift in education.

Some kids do very well in DL and now that there, won’t go back.

Parents with money are finding creative ways to educate their kids. If pods work, parents won’t want to go back. They will homeschool in a small group with a teacher.

People are now starting to realize the demand to fill educational gaps is huge, and I think we will see new businesses and new ideas in education and supporting education. A few will likely be very good and change the educational landscape permanently.

But mostly, people have lost confidence in public schools. Even if FCPS, there is a growing movement for vouchers. And it’s going to get launder as people start paying tutors and pod teacher to do the job the public schools are supposed to.

I think we will see a national demand to give parents their local educational allotment per pupil, and let them choose public, private, parochial, one of the new virtual HSs that will start popping up, use it to pay a pod teacher, use it for homeschool curriculum and enrichment, including things like private language classes and fine arts.

I think we will see expanded opportunities where fine arts, strong IB, voc tech focused, immersion, STEM focused, etc charter or private schools will take the vouchers, and maybe charge parents a few hundred dollars a month above them for expanded resources and smaller classes.

It’s Betsy DeVos’s wet dream, but it could be very could for kids from affluent families. The kids would get left behind when the higher kids leave, not so much.

I know I would love to put my kid in a smaller IB private or charter. And since FCPS can’t figure out how to open schools, they should step aside and let kids attend places that can.

School choice is definitely an (unintended outstanding) outcome. Libs BTFO.

[Anonymous]

Because they’re idiots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Normal = not caring or worrying about an infection.

Even with a vaccine, we will be a couple years away from that.

If that is the definition of normal, then I'm there already.

[Anonymous]

I am in favor of the voucher system which i never thought I'd say. But amazing private online schools are under $10k and parents can't afford them so we are stuck with DL.

I hope this lights some fire under the voters and we get a voucher system to close this education gap.

I'm happy for those who can consider private but that option should be for everyone and would be with a voucher system.

[Anonymous]

I also don't think that things will get back to normal till at least Fall 2022, and I don't like DL (too much screen time) for young kids.

Now, I only send 1 young kid to private in Fall 2020, $26k/year.

And, I think I may need to suck up to save to pay $55k/year to send both kids to private in Fall 2021.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First of all, because even if we get a vaccine, if you listen, it would not be 100% effective and would take a year to rollout. We will probably be dealing with COVID in schools through the class of 2022 graduating.

But mostly, it’s like 9/11, but going on for years. There has been a whole paradigm shift in education.

Some kids do very well in DL and now that there, won’t go back.

Parents with money are finding creative ways to educate their kids. If pods work, parents won’t want to go back. They will homeschool in a small group with a teacher.

People are now starting to realize the demand to fill educational gaps is huge, and I think we will see new businesses and new ideas in education and supporting education. A few will likely be very good and change the educational landscape permanently.

But mostly, people have lost confidence in public schools. Even if FCPS, there is a growing movement for vouchers. And it’s going to get launder as people start paying tutors and pod teacher to do the job the public schools are supposed to.

I think we will see a national demand to give parents their local educational allotment per pupil, and let them choose public, private, parochial, one of the new virtual HSs that will start popping up, use it to pay a pod teacher, use it for homeschool curriculum and enrichment, including things like private language classes and fine arts.

I think we will see expanded opportunities where fine arts, strong IB, voc tech focused, immersion, STEM focused, etc charter or private schools will take the vouchers, and maybe charge parents a few hundred dollars a month above them for expanded resources and smaller classes.

It’s Betsy DeVos’s wet dream, but it could be very could for kids from affluent families. The kids would get left behind when the higher kids leave, not so much.

I know I would love to put my kid in a smaller IB private or charter. And since FCPS can’t figure out how to open schools, they should step aside and let kids attend places that can.

School choice is definitely an (unintended outstanding) outcome. Libs BTFO.

Hey. I’m a liberal and I wrote this post. I have always been very anti-vouchers. But, the pandemic has made me realize some unpleasant things about the public schools and public schools teachers. Maybe give people credit for admitting they have changed their mind?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First of all, because even if we get a vaccine, if you listen, it would not be 100% effective and would take a year to rollout. We will probably be dealing with COVID in schools through the class of 2022 graduating.

But mostly, it’s like 9/11, but going on for years. There has been a whole paradigm shift in education.

Some kids do very well in DL and now that there, won’t go back.

Parents with money are finding creative ways to educate their kids. If pods work, parents won’t want to go back. They will homeschool in a small group with a teacher.

People are now starting to realize the demand to fill educational gaps is huge, and I think we will see new businesses and new ideas in education and supporting education. A few will likely be very good and change the educational landscape permanently.

But mostly, people have lost confidence in public schools. Even if FCPS, there is a growing movement for vouchers. And it’s going to get launder as people start paying tutors and pod teacher to do the job the public schools are supposed to.

I think we will see a national demand to give parents their local educational allotment per pupil, and let them choose public, private, parochial, one of the new virtual HSs that will start popping up, use it to pay a pod teacher, use it for homeschool curriculum and enrichment, including things like private language classes and fine arts.

I think we will see expanded opportunities where fine arts, strong IB, voc tech focused, immersion, STEM focused, etc charter or private schools will take the vouchers, and maybe charge parents a few hundred dollars a month above them for expanded resources and smaller classes.

It’s Betsy DeVos’s wet dream, but it could be very could for kids from affluent families. The kids would get left behind when the higher kids leave, not so much.

I know I would love to put my kid in a smaller IB private or charter. And since FCPS can’t figure out how to open schools, they should step aside and let kids attend places that can.

School choice is definitely an (unintended outstanding) outcome. Libs BTFO.

Hey. I’m a liberal and I wrote this post. I have always been very anti-vouchers. But, the pandemic has made me realize some unpleasant things about the public schools and public schools teachers. Maybe give people credit for admitting they have changed their mind?

Sure sweetheart. Day late, dollar short.

[Anonymous]

Precisely because I have lost hope in FCPS; the system is broken beyond repair.

And, I was becoming discouraged and frustrated with FCPS with each passing school year, well before COVID.

- overcrowded schools (trailers and modulars for decades, staff using storage rooms for offices)

- overcrowded classrooms (poor classroom management, constant distractions, shared supplies)

- focus on just about everything except academics (school name changes, unisex bathrooms, equity and diversity, SOL teaching to the test, no textbooks, school as social services, endless award ceremonies, surveys, assessments, "programming"...

- but with above-listed under consideration, woe to the parent of an "average" student who needs extra instruction in math, for example. Help is NOT available. Now, if it is nearly time for SOLs and your child is "at risk" for a low score or actually "fails" an SOL, then you'll get an offer of essentially test prep.

- DH has tutored DC in math all through ES. Then we hired a private tutor for balance of MS/HS.

- My 2DC learned more via a well-known tutoring center than they ever learned in FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hear people say this a lot but I don’t really know what they mean? Are people really saying that in 10 years we won’t have 5 day face to face school anymore? If so, why not? This pandemic won’t last forever. Why wouldn’t schools go back to normal after the pandemic passes?

Traditional public school served only a few types of children anyway. It was designed for middle class white cis girls without special needs. Everyone else is an afterthought. As a teacher, I did my best but I’m thrilled that parents and kids are figuring out better methods of education and won’t return to what did not work for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Precisely because I have lost hope in FCPS; the system is broken beyond repair.

And, I was becoming discouraged and frustrated with FCPS with each passing school year, well before COVID.

- overcrowded schools (trailers and modulars for decades, staff using storage rooms for offices)

- overcrowded classrooms (poor classroom management, constant distractions, shared supplies)

- focus on just about everything except academics (school name changes, unisex bathrooms, equity and diversity, SOL teaching to the test, no textbooks, school as social services, endless award ceremonies, surveys, assessments, "programming"...

- but with above-listed under consideration, woe to the parent of an "average" student who needs extra instruction in math, for example. Help is NOT available. Now, if it is nearly time for SOLs and your child is "at risk" for a low score or actually "fails" an SOL, then you'll get an offer of essentially test prep.

- DH has tutored DC in math all through ES. Then we hired a private tutor for balance of MS/HS.


Do you really think the issues you mention are unique to FCPS? This sounds like all school districts everywhere.

- My 2DC learned more via a well-known tutoring center than they ever learned in FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear people say this a lot but I don’t really know what they mean? Are people really saying that in 10 years we won’t have 5 day face to face school anymore? If so, why not? This pandemic won’t last forever. Why wouldn’t schools go back to normal after the pandemic passes?

Traditional public school served only a few types of children anyway. It was designed for middle class white cis girls without special needs. Everyone else is an afterthought. As a teacher, I did my best but I’m thrilled that parents and kids are figuring out better methods of education and won’t return to what did not work for them.

White cis girls???

[Anonymous]

I’m worried our suburban district is going to have real budget problems in the coming year. They rely heavily on sales tax to supplement the property tax. Property tax will be ok but sales tax will not.

[Anonymous]

I'd be cool with a voucher, it would create competition and make fcps step up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hear people say this a lot but I don’t really know what they mean? Are people really saying that in 10 years we won’t have 5 day face to face school anymore? If so, why not? This pandemic won’t last forever. Why wouldn’t schools go back to normal after the pandemic passes?

Traditional public school served only a few types of children anyway. It was designed for middle class white cis girls without special needs. Everyone else is an afterthought. As a teacher, I did my best but I’m thrilled that parents and kids are figuring out better methods of education and won’t return to what did not work for them.

White cis girls???

different poster, but i'm guessing girls bc they are assumed to have more of an ability to sit quietly and do their work (boys more rambunctious?). I have studious boys who love to sit and do work, but those are the stereotypes.