Why do some people say schools will never go back to normal?

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Anonymous wrote:I hear people say this a lot but I don’t really know what they mean? Are people really saying that in 10 years we won’t have 5 day face to face school anymore? If so, why not? This pandemic won’t last forever. Why wouldn’t schools go back to normal after the pandemic passes?

Traditional public school served only a few types of children anyway. It was designed for middle class white cis girls without special needs. Everyone else is an afterthought. As a teacher, I did my best but I’m thrilled that parents and kids are figuring out better methods of education and won’t return to what did not work for them.

Right here folks, this is the problem with public school teachers in a nutshell. “Cis white girls” okay 😫

I’m a mom of an 11 year old boy with special needs and this teacher is spot on. I’ve been saying this for years. Sure they play the game with the EIP and special services, but we both know it’s mainly bull shit and any real help my son gets will be coming from private therapy and education.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear people say this a lot but I don’t really know what they mean? Are people really saying that in 10 years we won’t have 5 day face to face school anymore? If so, why not? This pandemic won’t last forever. Why wouldn’t schools go back to normal after the pandemic passes?

Because it’s showing a new and better way to educate children. Isn’t technology wonderful?

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Anonymous wrote:I am in favor of the voucher system which i never thought I'd say. But amazing private online schools are under $10k and parents can't afford them so we are stuck with DL.

I hope this lights some fire under the voters and we get a voucher system to close this education gap.

I'm happy for those who can consider private but that option should be for everyone and would be with a voucher system.

Which amazing online private are you looking at?

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Anonymous wrote:If every kid was handed $10k for schooling, why wouldn’t private schools just increase tuition by $10k? The rich will always have access to more. Charter schools have been thoroughly shown not to increase student achievement among similar demographics.

Honestly, I hope this pandemic takes away the stigma of homeschooling and proves that many parents are capable of teaching their own child to a satisfactory level. It’s not hard to teach one kid at a time better than a teacher can teach 30.

There would also be an increase in private schools and some of them would be $10-15k. Some people who couldn't swing private school before would be able to.

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We can afford private, but are sticking with MCPS for now. The stakes are lower for us, however, as we have one entering K this month and the other one doesn't start K until 2023. We're willing to give it a shot and see if they can adapt well to DL. I think most parents will still want in-person school no matter how well DL goes. It just won't be the same, and anyone here who's spent 5-6 hours a day on Teams or Zoom for conference calls knows it.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe if we focused less on mindfulness and more on teaching we would be better off as well.
We got away from educating our kids and filling it with mindless waste of time things like
Studying an artist of the month etc

I agree that education has problems, but studying artists is part of education.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear people say this a lot but I don’t really know what they mean? Are people really saying that in 10 years we won’t have 5 day face to face school anymore? If so, why not? This pandemic won’t last forever. Why wouldn’t schools go back to normal after the pandemic passes?

Because it’s showing a new and better way to educate children. Isn’t technology wonderful?

And cheaper! Facilities are very expensive to build and maintain. And I know MCPS is saying they'll pay all their staff this year but do you really think everyone is doing that?

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I think schooling will go back to the way it has been within a year or two. But, parents will have less faith & trust in public schools because they aren’t able to deliver on their implied promises right now: childcare for most of the work day and providing quality education starting around age 5. Distance learning isn’t a thing for very young kids.
Also, many parents will realize that educating their own kids at home is not really that hard and takes a fraction of the time that a school day takes (bc crowd control, etc. is a huge time sink). So these parents will question the value of public school going forward.

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Because some people have never studied history.

Some things may be altered in the future, but not completely changed...
for example I predict "snow days" will become distance learning days in the future.

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yes, I don't understand that either. What is the line of thought here? That nothing will go back to normal because of covid? Even if they don't find a vaccine, they will find some sort of treatment for the symptoms and then, it will be like any other flu. We have the flu and still have schools normally - why would it be different with covid?

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Anonymous wrote:Because some people have never studied history.

Some things may be altered in the future, but not completely changed...
for example I predict "snow days" will become distance learning days in the future.

They won’t, because not everyone will have a laptop capable of doing that when they spend most days in school.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear people say this a lot but I don’t really know what they mean? Are people really saying that in 10 years we won’t have 5 day face to face school anymore? If so, why not? This pandemic won’t last forever. Why wouldn’t schools go back to normal after the pandemic passes?

Because it’s showing a new and better way to educate children. Isn’t technology wonderful?

Even pre-pandemic, more and more students were moving out of the traditional 5 days a week F2F model.

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Once lives are upended and habits, defaults and norms are broken, a re-examining of the aforementioned is inevitable.

This will cause some people who began homeschooling to continue.

Some people who left for private will never come back.

Some people who now pay attention to school board activity will continue.

How it all shakes out is uncertain but change is guaranteed.

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The demand for online schooling was increasing prior to the pandemic for a variety of reasons, economic and achievement, for both high school and undergraduate degrees. There is tremendous demand for individualized degree programs, both from teachers, who like the flexibility, and students, who like the individualized attention, the cost savings over private brick-and-mortar schools, and the flexibility.

It had started more noticabley with in-person retail and now is spreading to in-person education. The pace of change is accelerating in both of these sectors due to the pandemic and the resulting recession.

Those pushing for in-person who may eventually see a return to it are those whose children need in-person, such as students with learning disabilities or attention problems.

Some families will push for in-person as sort of an educational country club, but those types of schools will become smaller and more expensive, and some will close due to low enrollment. Pods will be the lower-cost version of this trend.

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Anonymous wrote:The demand for online schooling was increasing prior to the pandemic for a variety of reasons, economic and achievement, for both high school and undergraduate degrees. There is tremendous demand for individualized degree programs, both from teachers, who like the flexibility, and students, who like the individualized attention, the cost savings over private brick-and-mortar schools, and the flexibility.

It had started more noticabley with in-person retail and now is spreading to in-person education. The pace of change is accelerating in both of these sectors due to the pandemic and the resulting recession.

Those pushing for in-person who may eventually see a return to it are those whose children need in-person, such as students with learning disabilities or attention problems.

Some families will push for in-person as sort of an educational country club, but those types of schools will become smaller and more expensive, and some will close due to low enrollment. Pods will be the lower-cost version of this trend.

I agree I wrote this in another thread
If we are out until next March (which is highly likely as some one up thread posted kids will not go back during cold and flu season)-kids will have been home for a year. People may adjust to this as the new normal. I too can't wait for my DC to go back and I am not in a pod. However, people are already forming pods and hiring teachers. When kids go back they will be at vastly different levels. What are public schools going to do to be equitable-probably teach to the lowest level-NPR did a study that showed 40% of FARMS students didn't access the online education at all. Those kids who have been in pods with teachers or just private tutors or parents who could really supplement the parents may not see the value in sending them back. Their child who has been learning and advancing has to repeat what they have already learned? Additionally, they may have become accustomed to Pods/Tutors as the new normal and just continue. This is a real risk to public schools.

Additionally there are many ways to socialized for home shcoolers and more opps/companies may pop up to do just that