What do teachers want?

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Anonymous wrote:Did no one tell teachers dl was twice the work? It is easily that. But double the work and stress to be safe is a good trade off. Now teach our kids or find a new line of work.


+1. I'm just getting tired of all these "dog are my homework" excuses. Teachers you got your DL, now please put in some effort and actually teach our kids.


Parents, we understand you are unhappy ... but your kids will be safe and so will their teachers. Now please put in some effort and actually be a better parent.


You're evading the question. We have been better parents, but that's irrelevant. What will YOU do to be a better teacher? If anything, it looks like some unions are now even trying to wiggle out of DL. Please remember you are still getting *paid* to do *something*.

That was not the question. The question was, “Teachers, what do you want?” There is no evasion.


I hope you're not ironically challenged, as the question was really more rhetorical. As the article points out, one the one hand teachers don't want in-person. On the other hand, teachers also now don't want DL. Huh?! So exactly "what do teachers want" or are they just against all available options?!


Well I don't know what ALL teachers want but I can tell you for darn sure that what I want is for parents like you to stuff your complaints and criticisms where the sun doesn't shine. You're nasty and abusive. You have used up my good will because of your bad attitude so at this point I really don't give a darn tootin' what you want, and I am only looking out for me and my family.
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Anonymous wrote:Did no one tell teachers dl was twice the work? It is easily that. But double the work and stress to be safe is a good trade off. Now teach our kids or find a new line of work.


+1. I'm just getting tired of all these "dog are my homework" excuses. Teachers you got your DL, now please put in some effort and actually teach our kids.


Parents, we understand you are unhappy ... but your kids will be safe and so will their teachers. Now please put in some effort and actually be a better parent.


You're evading the question. We have been better parents, but that's irrelevant. What will YOU do to be a better teacher? If anything, it looks like some unions are now even trying to wiggle out of DL. Please remember you are still getting *paid* to do *something*.

That was not the question. The question was, “Teachers, what do you want?” There is no evasion.


I hope you're not ironically challenged, as the question was really more rhetorical. As the article points out, one the one hand teachers don't want in-person. On the other hand, teachers also now don't want DL. Huh?! So exactly "what do teachers want" or are they just against all available options?!

Oh, okay. So when you said, "What do teachers want?" You actually meant that you are demanding we explain to you how we will be "better teachers". Got it. We're actually not obligated to spell out to you how we do our jobs, and I'm already a great teacher. How about you tell us how you are going to step up as a parent and support your child's learning? How are you going to step up as an employee and "stop making excuses" about your own children being home? Or are you alone somehow deserving of endless sympathy and grace?
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Anonymous wrote:Did no one tell teachers dl was twice the work? It is easily that. But double the work and stress to be safe is a good trade off. Now teach our kids or find a new line of work.


+1. I'm just getting tired of all these "dog are my homework" excuses. Teachers you got your DL, now please put in some effort and actually teach our kids.


Parents, we understand you are unhappy ... but your kids will be safe and so will their teachers. Now please put in some effort and actually be a better parent.


You're evading the question. We have been better parents, but that's irrelevant. What will YOU do to be a better teacher? If anything, it looks like some unions are now even trying to wiggle out of DL. Please remember you are still getting *paid* to do *something*.

That was not the question. The question was, “Teachers, what do you want?” There is no evasion.


I hope you're not ironically challenged, as the question was really more rhetorical. As the article points out, one the one hand teachers don't want in-person. On the other hand, teachers also now don't want DL. Huh?! So exactly "what do teachers want" or are they just against all available options?!

Oh, okay. So when you said, "What do teachers want?" You actually meant that you are demanding we explain to you how we will be "better teachers". Got it. We're actually not obligated to spell out to you how we do our jobs, and I'm already a great teacher. How about you tell us how you are going to step up as a parent and support your child's learning? How are you going to step up as an employee and "stop making excuses" about your own children being home? Or are you alone somehow deserving of endless sympathy and grace?

I'm actually showing up and doing my job, as assigned by my employer in person, just like I always do in exchange for a paycheck. I'm not expecting 'grace or sympathy' from anyone. What I expect from you, angry teacher lady, is no more and no less than is expected of everyone else. Do your job in exchange for your paycheck and stop with the pity party about your unique and special needs/demands.
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Teacher here.

I want my kids to be able to check out books from our classroom and school library every two weeks. I don’t want kids sitting at a computer all day. I want a schedule that is realistic for young kids. I teach 6th grade and an hour is a long time. I personally think live sessions should be 30-45 mins max. If I had to set up my schedule... 15 min MM. 1 hour- Reading/Writing/Word Study 45 mins- Math. 45 mins SS/Science. The rest of the day is asynchronous with conferences and small groups. 9:00-10:15- MM and LA. 10:15-10:45 break. 10:45-11:30- Math. 11:30-12:30 - lunch/break 12:30-1:15- SS/Science. 1:15-4:00 - asynchronous assignments, specials and small groups.
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As a teacher, I am so incredibly embarrassed for my profession right now. We have spent years trying to be seen as important, essential, professional, up to tackling challenges, etc. Now most of my colleagues are ranting dramatically and nonsensically all over social media while going on beach vacations and taking their kids to sports practices. I will be exiting this profession as soon as I possibly can. The whole show has been disgraceful.
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Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I am so incredibly embarrassed for my profession right now. We have spent years trying to be seen as important, essential, professional, up to tackling challenges, etc. Now most of my colleagues are ranting dramatically and nonsensically all over social media while going on beach vacations and taking their kids to sports practices. I will be exiting this profession as soon as I possibly can. The whole show has been disgraceful.


Agreed. It just seems like no one was willing to make the sacrifices needed to return to in person learning this fall- or just didn't make the connection until it was too late.

However, IME those who were advocating against in-person learning are not necessarily the same ones complaining about DL now. Many teachers with younger school-aged kids simply wanted to return to the classroom and now are really scrambling to figure out the logistics. And there should have been more training this summer to help some of the non-technology savvy teachers navigate remote teaching.
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Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I am so incredibly embarrassed for my profession right now. We have spent years trying to be seen as important, essential, professional, up to tackling challenges, etc. Now most of my colleagues are ranting dramatically and nonsensically all over social media while going on beach vacations and taking their kids to sports practices. I will be exiting this profession as soon as I possibly can. The whole show has been disgraceful.


Agreed. It just seems like no one was willing to make the sacrifices needed to return to in person learning this fall- or just didn't make the connection until it was too late.

However, IME those who were advocating against in-person learning are not necessarily the same ones complaining about DL now. Many teachers with younger school-aged kids simply wanted to return to the classroom and now are really scrambling to figure out the logistics. And there should have been more training this summer to help some of the non-technology savvy teachers navigate remote teaching.

"The sacrifices needed"-you are literally talking about people dying. Let's be clear here.
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Anonymous wrote:Did no one tell teachers dl was twice the work? It is easily that. But double the work and stress to be safe is a good trade off. Now teach our kids or find a new line of work.


+1. I'm just getting tired of all these "dog are my homework" excuses. Teachers you got your DL, now please put in some effort and actually teach our kids.


Parents, we understand you are unhappy ... but your kids will be safe and so will their teachers. Now please put in some effort and actually be a better parent.


You're evading the question. We have been better parents, but that's irrelevant. What will YOU do to be a better teacher? If anything, it looks like some unions are now even trying to wiggle out of DL. Please remember you are still getting *paid* to do *something*.

That was not the question. The question was, “Teachers, what do you want?” There is no evasion.


I hope you're not ironically challenged, as the question was really more rhetorical. As the article points out, one the one hand teachers don't want in-person. On the other hand, teachers also now don't want DL. Huh?! So exactly "what do teachers want" or are they just against all available options?!

Oh, okay. So when you said, "What do teachers want?" You actually meant that you are demanding we explain to you how we will be "better teachers". Got it. We're actually not obligated to spell out to you how we do our jobs, and I'm already a great teacher. How about you tell us how you are going to step up as a parent and support your child's learning? How are you going to step up as an employee and "stop making excuses" about your own children being home? Or are you alone somehow deserving of endless sympathy and grace?

I'm actually showing up and doing my job, as assigned by my employer in person, just like I always do in exchange for a paycheck. I'm not expecting 'grace or sympathy' from anyone. What I expect from you, angry teacher lady, is no more and no less than is expected of everyone else. Do your job in exchange for your paycheck and stop with the pity party about your unique and special needs/demands.

I haven't made any demands or talked about any of my needs so I'm not sure what you're referring to. I already do my job, which is educating children, every day. My job is not to solve your childcare problems or make your life easier, regardless of what you want.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Teacher here.

I want my kids to be able to check out books from our classroom and school library every two weeks. I don’t want kids sitting at a computer all day. I want a schedule that is realistic for young kids. I teach 6th grade and an hour is a long time. I personally think live sessions should be 30-45 mins max. If I had to set up my schedule... 15 min MM. 1 hour- Reading/Writing/Word Study 45 mins- Math. 45 mins SS/Science. The rest of the day is asynchronous with conferences and small groups. 9:00-10:15- MM and LA. 10:15-10:45 break. 10:45-11:30- Math. 11:30-12:30 - lunch/break 12:30-1:15- SS/Science. 1:15-4:00 - asynchronous assignments, specials and small groups.


I bet that most elementary parents would be fine with this. It gets the core done in the morning incase parents can't support in the afternoon. It offers time for small group instruction. Can we just do this?

I'm really sick of hearing teachers say that they can't possibly do their job right now. I'm not asking for heroics but an honest attempt at DL would go a long way. The spring effort I personally saw was disgraceful and the comments I've see this summer from teachers are really disappointing. As a parent, I've been stepping up for months, researching SOLs and teaching my kids while also working a FT job. I'm at my breaking point and need help. I really need teachers to stop making excuses and help teach my kids. Please.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I am so incredibly embarrassed for my profession right now. We have spent years trying to be seen as important, essential, professional, up to tackling challenges, etc. Now most of my colleagues are ranting dramatically and nonsensically all over social media while going on beach vacations and taking their kids to sports practices. I will be exiting this profession as soon as I possibly can. The whole show has been disgraceful.


Agreed. It just seems like no one was willing to make the sacrifices needed to return to in person learning this fall- or just didn't make the connection until it was too late.

However, IME those who were advocating against in-person learning are not necessarily the same ones complaining about DL now. Many teachers with younger school-aged kids simply wanted to return to the classroom and now are really scrambling to figure out the logistics. And there should have been more training this summer to help some of the non-technology savvy teachers navigate remote teaching.

"The sacrifices needed"-you are literally talking about people dying. Let's be clear here.


With tens or hundreds of thousands of children home alone this fall in the DMV, from kindergarten to high school, some will watch their lessons, some will get pregnant, some will burn their house down. Some kids will do all three. But few teachers will die.

That's the calculus we've made. You are indicating that you think we've chosen wisely. We'll find out.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Did no one tell teachers dl was twice the work? It is easily that. But double the work and stress to be safe is a good trade off. Now teach our kids or find a new line of work.


+1. I'm just getting tired of all these "dog are my homework" excuses. Teachers you got your DL, now please put in some effort and actually teach our kids.


Parents, we understand you are unhappy ... but your kids will be safe and so will their teachers. Now please put in some effort and actually be a better parent.


You're evading the question. We have been better parents, but that's irrelevant. What will YOU do to be a better teacher? If anything, it looks like some unions are now even trying to wiggle out of DL. Please remember you are still getting *paid* to do *something*.

That was not the question. The question was, “Teachers, what do you want?” There is no evasion.


I hope you're not ironically challenged, as the question was really more rhetorical. As the article points out, one the one hand teachers don't want in-person. On the other hand, teachers also now don't want DL. Huh?! So exactly "what do teachers want" or are they just against all available options?!

Oh, okay. So when you said, "What do teachers want?" You actually meant that you are demanding we explain to you how we will be "better teachers". Got it. We're actually not obligated to spell out to you how we do our jobs, and I'm already a great teacher. How about you tell us how you are going to step up as a parent and support your child's learning? How are you going to step up as an employee and "stop making excuses" about your own children being home? Or are you alone somehow deserving of endless sympathy and grace?

I'm actually showing up and doing my job, as assigned by my employer in person, just like I always do in exchange for a paycheck. I'm not expecting 'grace or sympathy' from anyone. What I expect from you, angry teacher lady, is no more and no less than is expected of everyone else. Do your job in exchange for your paycheck and stop with the pity party about your unique and special needs/demands.

I haven't made any demands or talked about any of my needs so I'm not sure what you're referring to. I already do my job, which is educating children, every day. My job is not to solve your childcare problems or make your life easier, regardless of what you want.

I DON'T NEED CHILDCARE. My children need an education, which they will get regardless of whether or not the public school is involved. The real issue is that public school teachers are either unable or unwilling to find ANY solution to all of the various 'situations' that they continually reference and when asked how the heck they are going to earn their paycheck, the answer is 'we aren't childcare workers'. Yeah, no shit, childcare workers are WORKING.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I am so incredibly embarrassed for my profession right now. We have spent years trying to be seen as important, essential, professional, up to tackling challenges, etc. Now most of my colleagues are ranting dramatically and nonsensically all over social media while going on beach vacations and taking their kids to sports practices. I will be exiting this profession as soon as I possibly can. The whole show has been disgraceful.


Agreed. It just seems like no one was willing to make the sacrifices needed to return to in person learning this fall- or just didn't make the connection until it was too late.

However, IME those who were advocating against in-person learning are not necessarily the same ones complaining about DL now. Many teachers with younger school-aged kids simply wanted to return to the classroom and now are really scrambling to figure out the logistics. And there should have been more training this summer to help some of the non-technology savvy teachers navigate remote teaching.

"The sacrifices needed"-you are literally talking about people dying. Let's be clear here.


Not that tired old body bag line again. For example, "sacrifice" could have meant admininstrators and teachers training/prepping this summer so they're ready for fall. But instead they're hiding behind their union contracts to say they're prohibited from doing any prep whatsoever this summer. (And yes, I'd gladly pay them to prep this summer.)
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Teacher here.

I want my kids to be able to check out books from our classroom and school library every two weeks. I don’t want kids sitting at a computer all day. I want a schedule that is realistic for young kids. I teach 6th grade and an hour is a long time. I personally think live sessions should be 30-45 mins max. If I had to set up my schedule... 15 min MM. 1 hour- Reading/Writing/Word Study 45 mins- Math. 45 mins SS/Science. The rest of the day is asynchronous with conferences and small groups. 9:00-10:15- MM and LA. 10:15-10:45 break. 10:45-11:30- Math. 11:30-12:30 - lunch/break 12:30-1:15- SS/Science. 1:15-4:00 - asynchronous assignments, specials and small groups.


I bet that most elementary parents would be fine with this. It gets the core done in the morning incase parents can't support in the afternoon. It offers time for small group instruction. Can we just do this?

I'm really sick of hearing teachers say that they can't possibly do their job right now. I'm not asking for heroics but an honest attempt at DL would go a long way. The spring effort I personally saw was disgraceful and the comments I've see this summer from teachers are really disappointing. As a parent, I've been stepping up for months, researching SOLs and teaching my kids while also working a FT job. I'm at my breaking point and need help. I really need teachers to stop making excuses and help teach my kids. Please.


Thanks! I also want to add I want there to be consistency from school to school within a district regarding times and expectations for teachers. I think that is why a lot of parents were not happy. There were some schools who did a great job and others that failed. I think a lot of that has to do with leadership. It was very interesting to me to look at the data regarding choice for DL vs hybrid. My school had a larger DL vote but another school within my pyramid and similar demographics had an extremely large in person vote.
Anonymous
To those willing to destroy public school systems if it means getting rid of bad admin: killing coyotes doesn’t work. Nature abhors a vaccine. Public school systems are a delicate ecosystem. We already tried having business leaders run public schools. It cost a generation of inner city children a decent education.
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Anonymous wrote:To those willing to destroy public school systems if it means getting rid of bad admin: killing coyotes doesn’t work. Nature abhors a vaccine. Public school systems are a delicate ecosystem. We already tried having business leaders run public schools. It cost a generation of inner city children a decent education.


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Can you rephrase this coherently?
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