GS-15 husband and wife collect money and not working

[Anonymous]

My wife was a quasi-fed and when she left for the private sector they had to hire three people to replace her. Some feds work hard and some are just average.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My next door Potomac neighbor, both husband and wife are Fed, both GS-15 and they are working probably less than an hour a day. Even before the pandemic, whenever they are working from hiome, they spent 90% of their working hours taking care of the flowers and trees in their yard. Now that both are working from home, they are spending about 99% of the working hours taking for the lawn and flowers. How do I know this? They told me. They both said: we do not work. work are for suckers. The contractors do the jobs for us.

Must be nice having a government job like them.

Lol, I got a chuckle. Good fantasy story OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe anyone's engaging seriously with this obvious troll. "They both said: we do not work. work are for suckers." Very convincing.

Right. Also his co-workers are "calling him out" for not working on Facebook, and yet apparently nobody at the supervisory level noticed.

I'm a doc in an underserved area. We are in a hotspot under incredible strain. I'm unsupervisory G15 and have hundreds of hours of leave. I just took my first week of leave in a couple of years at the insistence of my supervisor, who is tasked by our management to make sure nobody burns out. (I was saving up my leave for surgery, and then ended up coming in to do admin time post-op anyway, because there were things we were so far behind.)

My colleagues are very much in the mindset of "when" we get COVID, not "if." I'm older, I had hoped to spare them some of this. They have said this is their AIDS, that this is what they signed up for -- to do the work. And we are ending up forcing leave on people for short bits, and then they come back to work 60 hour weeks again.

Is there grift and graft in the federal workforce? Yes. Dare you paint them all with the same brush? I hope not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DH and I are feds and we each work at least 40 hours a week right now, while trying to take care of our kids. I’m sure that there are some people like this but I think they’re rare, at least in my office it would be obvious and not tolerated.

There are people like that EVERYWHERE. Not just fed.

I do not know what my World Bank neighbors do. I have asked both of them what their daily routine consists of and it's something like -- we answer emails and we go to meetings. They also have about 10 weeks of paid vacation per year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe anyone's engaging seriously with this obvious troll. "They both said: we do not work. work are for suckers." Very convincing.

Right. Also his co-workers are "calling him out" for not working on Facebook, and yet apparently nobody at the supervisory level noticed.

I'm a doc in an underserved area. We are in a hotspot under incredible strain. I'm unsupervisory G15 and have hundreds of hours of leave. I just took my first week of leave in a couple of years at the insistence of my supervisor, who is tasked by our management to make sure nobody burns out. (I was saving up my leave for surgery, and then ended up coming in to do admin time post-op anyway, because there were things we were so far behind.)

My colleagues are very much in the mindset of "when" we get COVID, not "if." I'm older, I had hoped to spare them some of this. They have said this is their AIDS, that this is what they signed up for -- to do the work. And we are ending up forcing leave on people for short bits, and then they come back to work 60 hour weeks again.

Is there grift and graft in the federal workforce? Yes. Dare you paint them all with the same brush? I hope not.

Thank you

[Anonymous]

Our agency has increased the hours one may work. So we can work on evenings, overnight, and weekends to get to the 40 hours now. Just because you see them during the day does not mean they aren’t working.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My next door Potomac neighbor, both husband and wife are Fed, both GS-15 and they are working probably less than an hour a day. Even before the pandemic, whenever they are working from hiome, they spent 90% of their working hours taking care of the flowers and trees in their yard. Now that both are working from home, they are spending about 99% of the working hours taking for the lawn and flowers. How do I know this? They told me. They both said: we do not work. work are for suckers. The contractors do the jobs for us.

Must be nice having a government job like them.

I don't think any of this happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DH and I are feds and we each work at least 40 hours a week right now, while trying to take care of our kids. I’m sure that there are some people like this but I think they’re rare, at least in my office it would be obvious and not tolerated.

There are people like that EVERYWHERE. Not just fed.

I do not know what my World Bank neighbors do. I have asked both of them what their daily routine consists of and it's something like -- we answer emails and we go to meetings. They also have about 10 weeks of paid vacation per year.

I know a lot of people that work at a state college that are the same. They are not professors and do nothing for students. They do not have top tier jobs. They answer emails and fly to meetings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DH and I are feds and we each work at least 40 hours a week right now, while trying to take care of our kids. I’m sure that there are some people like this but I think they’re rare, at least in my office it would be obvious and not tolerated.

There are people like that EVERYWHERE. Not just fed.

I do not know what my World Bank neighbors do. I have asked both of them what their daily routine consists of and it's something like -- we answer emails and we go to meetings. They also have about 10 weeks of paid vacation per year.

And lawyers answer emails and go to meetings and write briefs. Business executives answer emails and go to meet all day too.
It isn’t always easy from the outside to understand what some jobs (especially highly specialized jobs) entail. Much easier to explain what a construction worker or someone in a service job does.

[Anonymous]

Ughhh OP. You remind me of my mother. I’m a GS 14 and was turning out the same amount of work a day post-COVID. With another FT teleworker in the house and two kids telelearning. Then my mother starts calling at 2pm. And in the middle of COVID I pick up. Because COVID and the elderly and it could be an actual emergency. But no, she’s bored at home and wants to chat. After the third time, I told her she really needed to stop calling in the middle of the workday unless it was an emergency. And she was like— you’re always so busy in the evenings with the kids and since you’re just working at home now, I thought it would be easier... Amd did you know I mailed my check to the IRS a month ago and no ones cashed it. So clearly no one is working anywhere in the federal government, including you, because my check wasn’t cashed . (Ummm... no one is opening mail because we are all at home!) ugh, ugh, ugh.


MYOB OP. You have no idea. You know who does? Their supervisors. Let them deal with it.

PS- we’ve moved to work 8 hours between 6 am and 10pm, flexing out is okay, because of childcare issues and COVID. During the summer, I might flex out a couple hours or put in leave and walk around the neighborhood with bored kids. You are still getting plenty of work from me. It might be at 9pm. But, it’s getting done. And it’s all properly and honestly reported. Calling the IG on every Fed you see outside between 8 and 6 this summer is a colossal waste of taxpayer resources.

[Anonymous]

DH is a Fed and often has only a few hours a day of work. He's been trying to ask for more projects without seeming like he's not working now...

I'm working 35-40 hours. I do more than half of house and kid stuff, of course but it's better over summer without "homeschool."

When I was a Fed (gs12) I had tons, because we had a lot of long term projects, research, writing, publishing and you can basically do that endkessi.i had a few colleagues who barely did anything but most worked hard.

[Anonymous]

I think it's possible, particularly if they are minorities. I've worked at three different agencies, and at each one have seen this happen. Minorities know they can just make an allegation and management is afraid of the backlash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, that’s my svp at pbs.

Troll says what? Moron, PBS employees aren’t Feds. Nice try, for someone without any knowledge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My next door Potomac neighbor, both husband and wife are Fed, both GS-15 and they are working probably less than an hour a day. Even before the pandemic, whenever they are working from hiome, they spent 90% of their working hours taking care of the flowers and trees in their yard. Now that both are working from home, they are spending about 99% of the working hours taking for the lawn and flowers. How do I know this? They told me. They both said: we do not work. work are for suckers. The contractors do the jobs for us.

Must be nice having a government job like them.

Worry about improving your English. Troll from Russia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, you can always call the anonymous tip lines for their agencies’ inspector general offices and report the days on which they were not working. Unless complaint is exceeding vague, the IG offices will look at their time sheets, when they were logged on, when they sent emails, etc.

IG's have all been fired for investigating Admin officials.

Right. The Trump administration, for all its "law and order" claims has waged war on government inspectors general. All smoke and mirrors. Nothing to see here.