schools closed for end of academic year

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PP again. Also, if there is funding, more lunch monitors can be hired.

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Anonymous wrote:I was watching the press conference but had to drop - there was a report the Superintendent was waving around. Does that contain the information about school not coming back until MD reaches Stage 3? Anyone know where we can find that report?

Did she actually say anything about phase 3? Phase 3 is all undefined anyway. Just like the rest of it. I’m guessing they start rushing the phases as people get tired of this. They’re already starting to.

The report hasn't been posted yet. Hopefully in the next day or two. Hogan is following Hopkins' 3 phase guidance (https://governor.maryland.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/MD_Strong.pdf) which states that schools can start to open during Phase II but with physical distancing limitations.

Phase III is outlined in this document as looking forward to a time when a vaccine is available. WTF?! Did they really say phase 3 in the press conference?

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/pubs_archive/pubs-pdfs/2020/200417-reopening-guidance-governors.pdf

PP advice again - this doc on page 10 outlines in more detail: https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/National-Coronavirus-Response-a-Road-Map-to-Recovering-2.pdf

Has this American Enterprise Institute document been adopted as official policy? Or is it just their own recommendations?

If you follow the links from the governors page that’s where it takes you. So yes, I assume.

I read the entire report and yes, Hogan is using AEI, Hopkins and White House as guidelines for re-opening the state.

Got it. So those three were the sources of information on which Hogan's document was constructed, and that one provides the official guidance for the state of MD.

It just wasn't totally clear why PP was posting links to non-MD source, but I get it now.

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And not coming back fully until Maryland reaches Stage 3. That's not going to be by the fall.

Sorry Mrs. A they'll be back in the fall. Start preparing those lesson plans.

+1. Watch how magically we will reach Stage 3, just in time for school to start.

There is no other choice. This country cannot be the single developed country in the world to keep our kids out of school for almost a year. You people are completely out of touch. Don't be such ninnies and start accepting reality.

The only place I’ve seen where they have started school is Denmark, and Germany just for kids taking high school exams

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Anonymous wrote:I was watching the press conference but had to drop - there was a report the Superintendent was waving around. Does that contain the information about school not coming back until MD reaches Stage 3? Anyone know where we can find that report?

Did she actually say anything about phase 3? Phase 3 is all undefined anyway. Just like the rest of it. I’m guessing they start rushing the phases as people get tired of this. They’re already starting to.

The report hasn't been posted yet. Hopefully in the next day or two. Hogan is following Hopkins' 3 phase guidance (https://governor.maryland.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/MD_Strong.pdf) which states that schools can start to open during Phase II but with physical distancing limitations.

Phase III is outlined in this document as looking forward to a time when a vaccine is available. WTF?! Did they really say phase 3 in the press conference?

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/pubs_archive/pubs-pdfs/2020/200417-reopening-guidance-governors.pdf

PP advice again - this doc on page 10 outlines in more detail: https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/National-Coronavirus-Response-a-Road-Map-to-Recovering-2.pdf

Has this American Enterprise Institute document been adopted as official policy? Or is it just their own recommendations?

If our beloved Gov Hogan is taking guidance from the conservative death eaters of AEI, I fear we have been duped and its time to get money flowing again, over our collective dead bodies.

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Anonymous wrote:This sucks! I knew kids won’t get to go back to finish off the school year but it makes me so sad!☹️
On top of that the uncertainty of having school in the fall is just too much.. I feel bad for my kids in elementary school. They can’t learn on zoom, especially Kindergarten kids

I have a kindergartener. It's not ideal but okay overall. I always felt like older kids had it worse because stakes are not as high for the K kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I was watching the press conference but had to drop - there was a report the Superintendent was waving around. Does that contain the information about school not coming back until MD reaches Stage 3? Anyone know where we can find that report?

Did she actually say anything about phase 3? Phase 3 is all undefined anyway. Just like the rest of it. I’m guessing they start rushing the phases as people get tired of this. They’re already starting to.

The report hasn't been posted yet. Hopefully in the next day or two. Hogan is following Hopkins' 3 phase guidance (https://governor.maryland.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/MD_Strong.pdf) which states that schools can start to open during Phase II but with physical distancing limitations.

Phase III is outlined in this document as looking forward to a time when a vaccine is available. WTF?! Did they really say phase 3 in the press conference?

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/pubs_archive/pubs-pdfs/2020/200417-reopening-guidance-governors.pdf

PP advice again - this doc on page 10 outlines in more detail: https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/National-Coronavirus-Response-a-Road-Map-to-Recovering-2.pdf

Has this American Enterprise Institute document been adopted as official policy? Or is it just their own recommendations?

If you follow the links from the governors page that’s where it takes you. So yes, I assume.

I read the entire report and yes, Hogan is using AEI, Hopkins and White House as guidelines for re-opening the state.

Got it. So those three were the sources of information on which Hogan's document was constructed, and that one provides the official guidance for the state of MD.

It just wasn't totally clear why PP was posting links to non-MD source, but I get it now.

I was surprised/unclear too and that is why I decided to read the entire report including the footnotes. I hope they post the "Maryland Together: Recovery Plan for Education" report soon for clarity. Although, it is only recommendations and MCPS could do something different in the fall.

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Anonymous wrote:Do boarding schools take kindergarteners?

Just kidding.

Am I?

can anyone say congregate setting?

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And not coming back fully until Maryland reaches Stage 3. That's not going to be by the fall.

Sorry Mrs. A they'll be back in the fall. Start preparing those lesson plans.

+1. Watch how magically we will reach Stage 3, just in time for school to start.

There is no other choice. This country cannot be the single developed country in the world to keep our kids out of school for almost a year. You people are completely out of touch. Don't be such ninnies and start accepting reality.

Agree, unless things go completely crazy this summer, kids will be back at school in the fall.

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look how far we have already come, in half the time that we have until school starts in the fall. They'll be open. Maybe with lunch in classrooms and without assembly, but they'll be open.

Who will monitor lunch in all of those classrooms?

Seriously, they do this for recess all the time when there is significant snow or rain outside. There are paid recess monitors who can cover several classrooms. The other classrooms are covered by paraprofessionals. Schools make do. It's also possible that the real teachers can monitor lunch and receive a break at another time. (Classes can be combined to watch a video to give one teacher a break. Not ideal, but it happens).

That’s at the elementary level. What about secondary schools?

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Anonymous wrote:This sucks! I knew kids won’t get to go back to finish off the school year but it makes me so sad!☹️
On top of that the uncertainty of having school in the fall is just too much.. I feel bad for my kids in elementary school. They can’t learn on zoom, especially Kindergarten kids

I have a kindergartener. It's not ideal but okay overall. I always felt like older kids had it worse because stakes are not as high for the K kids.

Let’s just remove that uncertainty and say we won’t be opening schools until Jan 2021 at the earliest and started really cultivating online learning.

Zoom classes are kind of lame, but one on one with zoom could be pretty good, and since teachers don’t have to do a lot of the administrative and discipline for the class, and can focus on just instruction, maybe that could work out to individual instruction time 2-4 times a week with EACH student. On top of group lessons/lectures to give broad introductions.

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And not coming back fully until Maryland reaches Stage 3. That's not going to be by the fall.

Kids will not go back until after Winter Break next year.

I predict January 2021. Get used to online learning.

Agreed. I think early Aug will see an announcement that MCPS is online for Fall 2020, except for students with IEPs that require small group instruction/self-contained classrooms 80% to 100% of the day. Traditionally in MCPS, those are students with profound emotional or intellectual disabilities. Everyone else is in inclusion classes all or most of the day. So, the sophomore with ODD or the non-verbal preschooler, not the fifth grader with a high IQ, but dyslexia or the seventh grader with executive functioning challenges.

That gives them four months to see how things go with the second wave. They could always decide to do 2nd semester online as well.

Oh, and will most businesses in Maryland remain closed through the fall, too?

Here's Ocean City saying COME BE TOURISTS!!!!! (which I think is nuts, nobody is going to go), and that's fine, but letting kids go to school is not?

Probably I misunderstood but I thought Rick Meehan said that the opening was mostly for locals and non locals who owned a home there.

This isn't exactly beach weather so maybe people won't flock there.

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Anonymous wrote:I was watching the press conference but had to drop - there was a report the Superintendent was waving around. Does that contain the information about school not coming back until MD reaches Stage 3? Anyone know where we can find that report?

Did she actually say anything about phase 3? Phase 3 is all undefined anyway. Just like the rest of it. I’m guessing they start rushing the phases as people get tired of this. They’re already starting to.

The report hasn't been posted yet. Hopefully in the next day or two. Hogan is following Hopkins' 3 phase guidance (https://governor.maryland.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/MD_Strong.pdf) which states that schools can start to open during Phase II but with physical distancing limitations.

Phase III is outlined in this document as looking forward to a time when a vaccine is available. WTF?! Did they really say phase 3 in the press conference?

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/pubs_archive/pubs-pdfs/2020/200417-reopening-guidance-governors.pdf

PP advice again - this doc on page 10 outlines in more detail: https://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/National-Coronavirus-Response-a-Road-Map-to-Recovering-2.pdf

Has this American Enterprise Institute document been adopted as official policy? Or is it just their own recommendations?

If you follow the links from the governors page that’s where it takes you. So yes, I assume.

I read the entire report and yes, Hogan is using AEI, Hopkins and White House as guidelines for re-opening the state.

Got it. So those three were the sources of information on which Hogan's document was constructed, and that one provides the official guidance for the state of MD.

It just wasn't totally clear why PP was posting links to non-MD source, but I get it now.

Im the PP that posted them. The MD strong report doesn’t define the phases just refers to those documents for the definitions.

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Anonymous wrote:This sucks! I knew kids won’t get to go back to finish off the school year but it makes me so sad!☹️
On top of that the uncertainty of having school in the fall is just too much.. I feel bad for my kids in elementary school. They can’t learn on zoom, especially Kindergarten kids

I have a kindergartener. It's not ideal but okay overall. I always felt like older kids had it worse because stakes are not as high for the K kids.

Let’s just remove that uncertainty and say we won’t be opening schools until Jan 2021 at the earliest and started really cultivating online learning.

Zoom classes are kind of lame, but one on one with zoom could be pretty good, and since teachers don’t have to do a lot of the administrative and discipline for the class, and can focus on just instruction, maybe that could work out to individual instruction time 2-4 times a week with EACH student. On top of group lessons/lectures to give broad introductions.

That would be nice-- but teachers have too many students. It would be like a quick parent teacher meeting of 10-15 with nothing accomplished.

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Anonymous wrote:This sucks! I knew kids won’t get to go back to finish off the school year but it makes me so sad!☹️
On top of that the uncertainty of having school in the fall is just too much.. I feel bad for my kids in elementary school. They can’t learn on zoom, especially Kindergarten kids

I have a kindergartener. It's not ideal but okay overall. I always felt like older kids had it worse because stakes are not as high for the K kids.

Let’s just remove that uncertainty and say we won’t be opening schools until Jan 2021 at the earliest and started really cultivating online learning.

Zoom classes are kind of lame, but one on one with zoom could be pretty good, and since teachers don’t have to do a lot of the administrative and discipline for the class, and can focus on just instruction, maybe that could work out to individual instruction time 2-4 times a week with EACH student. On top of group lessons/lectures to give broad introductions.

That would be nice-- but teachers have too many students. It would be like a quick parent teacher meeting of 10-15 with nothing accomplished.

*10-15 mins.

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Anonymous wrote:This sucks! I knew kids won’t get to go back to finish off the school year but it makes me so sad!☹️
On top of that the uncertainty of having school in the fall is just too much.. I feel bad for my kids in elementary school. They can’t learn on zoom, especially Kindergarten kids

I have a kindergartener. It's not ideal but okay overall. I always felt like older kids had it worse because stakes are not as high for the K kids.

Let’s just remove that uncertainty and say we won’t be opening schools until Jan 2021 at the earliest and started really cultivating online learning.

Zoom classes are kind of lame, but one on one with zoom could be pretty good, and since teachers don’t have to do a lot of the administrative and discipline for the class, and can focus on just instruction, maybe that could work out to individual instruction time 2-4 times a week with EACH student. On top of group lessons/lectures to give broad introductions.

That would be nice-- but teachers have too many students. It would be like a quick parent teacher meeting of 10-15 with nothing accomplished.

So lets say teachers have 10 hrs a week for planning and grading, which I think is what the usually have when in school.

So 30 hours of instruction, for 25 students. 1 hr a day of group instruction. Then 2 30-min sessions PER child, or even 4 30-min session for 2 child small groups per week.

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Anonymous wrote:This sucks! I knew kids won’t get to go back to finish off the school year but it makes me so sad!☹️
On top of that the uncertainty of having school in the fall is just too much.. I feel bad for my kids in elementary school. They can’t learn on zoom, especially Kindergarten kids

I have a kindergartener. It's not ideal but okay overall. I always felt like older kids had it worse because stakes are not as high for the K kids.

Let’s just remove that uncertainty and say we won’t be opening schools until Jan 2021 at the earliest and started really cultivating online learning.

Zoom classes are kind of lame, but one on one with zoom could be pretty good, and since teachers don’t have to do a lot of the administrative and discipline for the class, and can focus on just instruction, maybe that could work out to individual instruction time 2-4 times a week with EACH student. On top of group lessons/lectures to give broad introductions.

That would be nice-- but teachers have too many students. It would be like a quick parent teacher meeting of 10-15 with nothing accomplished.

*10-15 mins.

How long do you think the attention span of an elem student is? 15 min is probably fine.