Middle school magnet and MAP scores

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Anonymous wrote:I just can't really fathom that people are hardcore gearing up for appeals when results haven't come out yet. I mean, you know your child is not likely to get in, but you are going to insist then get in anyway, without really having a chance to know the alternative? Did you even look into your home MS besides glancing at the kids who walk by at 3pm each day?

I'm the PP with kid just scored 296 on winter MAP-M. We are zoned to a W-school and yes, my DC is Asian and is a boy. Of course I did tons of research of home MS as well as TPMS curriculum, and I know the latter fits my DC while the former doesn't. All I did for math enrichment since he was a kindergartner is throwing Beast Academy, and then AOPS pre-algebra and geometry textbooks to him (together with answer books for self-check), and he felt reading them as exciting and enjoyable as reading Captain Underpants or Rick Riordian. Not to mention his achievement in all sorts of math competitions including AMC8. Yet I saw multiple Asian boys with similar metrics and backgrounds got rejected or waitlist in the past two years. Some of them appealed and got in eventually. I think that's a wise choice and that's something I plan to do as well.

If your child has 99% mcps on the cogat[b] he seems like a shoe in. I think that probably carries the most weight.

DP. You're wrong. It used to carry the most weight but not anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just can't really fathom that people are hardcore gearing up for appeals when results haven't come out yet. I mean, you know your child is not likely to get in, but you are going to insist then get in anyway, without really having a chance to know the alternative? Did you even look into your home MS besides glancing at the kids who walk by at 3pm each day?

I'm the PP with kid just scored 296 on winter MAP-M. We are zoned to a W-school and yes, my DC is Asian and is a boy. Of course I did tons of research of home MS as well as TPMS curriculum, and I know the latter fits my DC while the former doesn't. All I did for math enrichment since he was a kindergartner is throwing Beast Academy, and then AOPS pre-algebra and geometry textbooks to him (together with answer books for self-check), and he felt reading them as exciting and enjoyable as reading Captain Underpants or Rick Riordian. Not to mention his achievement in all sorts of math competitions including AMC8. Yet I saw multiple Asian boys with similar metrics and backgrounds got rejected or waitlist in the past two years. Some of them appealed and got in eventually. I think that's a wise choice and that's something I plan to do as well.

If your child has 99% mcps on the cogat he seems like a shoe in. I think that probably carries the most weight.

Thank you for the blessing. Let's wait and keep fingers crossed. I was just replying to the post that doubt whether we parents just like to appeal no matter what: a high CoGAT score might come from natural intelligence, but a high MAP score must have backed up by a family that values education and knows their kids' strengths and capabilities.

[Anonymous]

If all of you are so convinced that only kids with exclusively 99% on the MAP get in, why go through the dog and pony show of screening 5000 5th graders!? Why not just screen the kids with only MAP scores in the 99%?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If all of you are so convinced that only kids with exclusively 99% on the MAP get in, why go through the dog and pony show of screening 5000 5th graders!? Why not just screen the kids with only MAP scores in the 99%?

MAP is one of several metrics used. There were a handful of kids admitted with less than 99% map in the past. We don't have access to their info so it's only speculation, but I'd imagine they scored very high on the CogAT and had other mitigating factors like FARMS.

In general, I wouldn't expect to be admitted to the STEM magnet with less than 99% on the MAP-M. The data the county shares shows that MCPS' MAP numbers are fairly close to national i.e. 99% = (roughly) 99%. Each grade has around 12k kids. There just aren't that many kids running around with scores like that at least outside of DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If all of you are so convinced that only kids with exclusively 99% on the MAP get in, why go through the dog and pony show of screening 5000 5th graders!? Why not just screen the kids with only MAP scores in the 99%?

MAP is one of several metrics used. There were a handful of kids admitted with less than 99% map in the past. We don't have access to their info so it's only speculation, but I'd imagine they scored very high on the CogAT and had other mitigating factors like FARMS.

In general, I wouldn't expect to be admitted to the STEM magnet with less than 99% on the MAP-M. The data the county shares shows that MCPS' MAP numbers are fairly close to national i.e. 99% = (roughly) 99%. Each grade has around 12k kids. There just aren't that many kids running around with scores like that at least outside of DCUM.

But the opposite isn't true. 99% on the MAP-M is no guarantee of acceptance; my kid consistently scores 99% on the MAP, but her score was only 250 in the fall. There's a bunch of kids in her grade with higher absolute scores but they all fall under the same 99%.
Honestly, I don't think my DD will get invited.

[Anonymous]

There is data on this. There were kids with 80th percentile test scores and even 70th percentile who got in.

[Anonymous]

Cogat score and national percentile out on mumps portal for 5th grader now. No maps percentile though so still a lot of room for the central office to play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cogat score and national percentile out on mumps portal for 5th grader now. No maps percentile though so still a lot of room for the central office to play.

Typos: mymcps and mcps

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cogat score and national percentile out on mumps portal for 5th grader now. No maps percentile though so still a lot of room for the central office to play.

The fall MAP scores are in the portal, and those were the most recent ones used by the selection committee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cogat score and national percentile out on mumps portal for 5th grader now. No maps percentile though so still a lot of room for the central office to play.

The fall MAP scores are in the portal, and those were the most recent ones used by the selection committee.

I think they meant the MCPS percentiles weren't out yet. (See correction.)