Pay to play ... now we know why

[Anonymous]

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Sorry — links were broken — here’s the actual link from propublica. https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/540902413
Googling “[name of club] 990” worked.

He made 286K last year at 65 hours worked per week. The schedule J breaks it down further. What is the BFD?

You should go into business as an "online salary decider," I think you would really enjoy it.

Why don't you spend your time trolling Loudoun? Their director makes 190K at 40 hours worked per week, which is a higher compensation per hours worked than Alex. Plus, four other executives at Loudoun make over 100K.

Note to Loudoun parents: I have no idea how much value the director adds to your club or the club's overall financial picture. It could be worth it for all I know. Just pointing out that our own little Alex troll must have some other motivation for throwing around bug-eyed claims that the mafia is involved and the IRS is coming.

[Anonymous]

This is a very bizarre thread.

I agree with one of the PP that indicated if anyone anyone questions what a restaurant manager or chef gets paid when they order their food. All of us buy goods and services on a daily basis. I’m sure we question the value we get and determine if it’s worth the money we pay, but questioning how much the staff gets paid is ridiculous. Many people have Apple products and they are not cheap. But when was the last time anyone decided to upgrade their iPhone/iPad based upon how much Tim Cook gets paid?

Similarly, when we decide if join a travel team, we question how good a coach, the training quality, training facility and location, team environment, etc. We should not care how much the Technical Director, Staff and/or even the coach gets paid. I’m all honesty, I’ve only met and talked to the Technical Director once and it was a 30 second conversation. My DD loves her coach and team and that is all it matters. I feel that the amount of money I pay for the team is fair and worth the money.

[Anonymous]

We pay it, so they make it. They could take less salary and offer more aid to low income kid, but it is their choice and their business, just as it is ours to decide whether to pay or move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Sorry — links were broken — here’s the actual link from propublica. https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/540902413
Googling “[name of club] 990” worked.

He made 286K last year at 65 hours worked per week. The schedule J breaks it down further. What is the BFD?

You should go into business as an "online salary decider," I think you would really enjoy it.

Why don't you spend your time trolling Loudoun? Their director makes 190K at 40 hours worked per week, which is a higher compensation per hours worked than Alex. Plus, four other executives at Loudoun make over 100K.

Note to Loudoun parents: I have no idea how much value the director adds to your club or the club's overall financial picture. It could be worth it for all I know. Just pointing out that our own little Alex troll must have some other motivation for throwing around bug-eyed claims that the mafia is involved and the IRS is coming.

It’s interesting how those hours jumped from 40 in 2015 to 65 in 2016. Almost like an attempt to make the numbers less offensive. I’m sure the guy filling out and signing the form has great records on these hours worked. FWIW, no professional, salaried worker would care about those numbers. Incidentally, why is only this guy reporting so many hours? No other club does that... When something is so far out of the norm that usually means something is not right.

[Anonymous]

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It’s interesting how those hours jumped from 40 in 2015 to 65 in 2016. Almost like an attempt to make the numbers less offensive.

So now you're the "online hours worked decider" in addition to the the "online salary decider"?

You're a human truth detector!

Anonymous wrote:
I’m sure the guy filling out and signing the form has great records on these hours worked.

This is why your threads get taken down troll, you just casually alleged with zero evidence that whoever filled out the form (likely a firm btw) committed a fraud.

Anonymous wrote:
FWIW, no professional, salaried worker would care about those numbers.

Wrong, but also irrelevant. The hours worked are requested on the Form 990.

Anonymous wrote:
Incidentally, why is only this guy reporting so many hours? No other club does that... When something is so far out of the norm that usually means something is not right.

Maybe there's simpler explanation, like a full time job with extra hours including weekends? Real work takes time, unlike trolling on a computer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Sorry — links were broken — here’s the actual link from propublica. https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/540902413
Googling “[name of club] 990” worked.

He made 286K last year at 65 hours worked per week. The schedule J breaks it down further. What is the BFD?

You should go into business as an "online salary decider," I think you would really enjoy it.

Why don't you spend your time trolling Loudoun? Their director makes 190K at 40 hours worked per week, which is a higher compensation per hours worked than Alex. Plus, four other executives at Loudoun make over 100K.

Note to Loudoun parents: I have no idea how much value the director adds to your club or the club's overall financial picture. It could be worth it for all I know. Just pointing out that our own little Alex troll must have some other motivation for throwing around bug-eyed claims that the mafia is involved and the IRS is coming.

It’s interesting how those hours jumped from 40 in 2015 to 65 in 2016. Almost like an attempt to make the numbers less offensive. I’m sure the guy filling out and signing the form has great records on these hours worked. FWIW, no professional, salaried worker would care about those numbers. Incidentally, why is only this guy reporting so many hours? No other club does that... When something is so far out of the norm that usually means something is not right.

You’re literally the only one who is offended. Sorry you didn’t get the job. Better luck next time.

[Anonymous]

Alexandria in full-fledged social media mode today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Alexandria in full-fledged social media mode today.

If you can’t beat them, join them.

[Anonymous]

FWIW, it’s not about the $$ itself. It’s about the ED of a nonprofit organization having influence over the compensation framework determined by the board. The ED may be the bad actor, but the board will be responsible if the IRS ever decides to take a close look. A big if, there are bigger tax issues out there for the IRS to pursue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, it’s not about the $$ itself. It’s about the ED of a nonprofit organization having influence over the compensation framework determined by the board. The ED may be the bad actor, but the board will be responsible if the IRS ever decides to take a close look. A big if, there are bigger tax issues out there for the IRS to pursue.

Go away!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, it’s not about the $$ itself. It’s about the ED of a nonprofit organization having influence over the compensation framework determined by the board. The ED may be the bad actor, but the board will be responsible if the IRS ever decides to take a close look. A big if, there are bigger tax issues out there for the IRS to pursue.

Go away!!!!!!!!!

Constant deflection. Ignoring the issue does not seem like a prudent path.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, it’s not about the $$ itself. It’s about the ED of a nonprofit organization having influence over the compensation framework determined by the board. The ED may be the bad actor, but the board will be responsible if the IRS ever decides to take a close look. A big if, there are bigger tax issues out there for the IRS to pursue.

Go away!!!!!!!!!

Constant deflection. Ignoring the issue does not seem like a prudent path.

Yes. We should obsess and post constantly about a situation about which we know nothing and for which the IRS has governmental responsibility. That sounds far more prudent. Would love to see what goes neglected in your household given how well you have set your priorities. It is safe to say that given the hundreds of posts on this issue, nobody on these boards has ignored it. It is also pretty safe to say that either the IRS will do something or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, it’s not about the $$ itself. It’s about the ED of a nonprofit organization having influence over the compensation framework determined by the board. The ED may be the bad actor, but the board will be responsible if the IRS ever decides to take a close look. A big if, there are bigger tax issues out there for the IRS to pursue.

Go away!!!!!!!!!

Constant deflection. Ignoring the issue does not seem like a prudent path.

Yes. We should obsess and post constantly about a situation about which we know nothing and for which the IRS has governmental responsibility. That sounds far more prudent. Would love to see what goes neglected in your household given how well you have set your priorities. It is safe to say that given the hundreds of posts on this issue, nobody on these boards has ignored it. It is also pretty safe to say that either the IRS will do something or not.

I would think the club would want to address the matter on its own. Typically, if you wait for the IRS to come in to address something the pain is significantly worse. Proactive moves on the club’s part will help with mitigation pleas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, it’s not about the $$ itself. It’s about the ED of a nonprofit organization having influence over the compensation framework determined by the board. The ED may be the bad actor, but the board will be responsible if the IRS ever decides to take a close look. A big if, there are bigger tax issues out there for the IRS to pursue.

Go away!!!!!!!!!

Constant deflection. Ignoring the issue does not seem like a prudent path.

Yes. We should obsess and post constantly about a situation about which we know nothing and for which the IRS has governmental responsibility. That sounds far more prudent. Would love to see what goes neglected in your household given how well you have set your priorities. It is safe to say that given the hundreds of posts on this issue, nobody on these boards has ignored it. It is also pretty safe to say that either the IRS will do something or not.

I would think the club would want to address the matter on its own. Typically, if you wait for the IRS to come in to address something the pain is significantly worse. Proactive moves on the club’s part will help with mitigation pleas.

Yet again, not my club and nobody but you cares. Believe me, if you know how much he makes then the IRS does. Please demonstrate what is illegal.

The good news is jobs open up in late spring so perhaps you’ll finally land one and move on with your life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW, it’s not about the $$ itself. It’s about the ED of a nonprofit organization having influence over the compensation framework determined by the board. The ED may be the bad actor, but the board will be responsible if the IRS ever decides to take a close look. A big if, there are bigger tax issues out there for the IRS to pursue.

Go away!!!!!!!!!

Constant deflection. Ignoring the issue does not seem like a prudent path.

Yes. We should obsess and post constantly about a situation about which we know nothing and for which the IRS has governmental responsibility. That sounds far more prudent. Would love to see what goes neglected in your household given how well you have set your priorities. It is safe to say that given the hundreds of posts on this issue, nobody on these boards has ignored it. It is also pretty safe to say that either the IRS will do something or not.

I would think the club would want to address the matter on its own. Typically, if you wait for the IRS to come in to address something the pain is significantly worse. Proactive moves on the club’s part will help with mitigation pleas.

Yet again, not my club and nobody but you cares. Believe me, if you know how much he makes then the IRS does. Please demonstrate what is illegal.

The good news is jobs open up in late spring so perhaps you’ll finally land one and move on with your life.

Odd. For not being your club, you seem very invested. If you don’t care, no need to read the thread. Some do care, so please move on so we can have an adult conversation amongst ourselves.