RIP DC Schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But don’t worry....the lowered standards now exclude attendance. That’s right you can attend a selective school even if you don’t attend school!

UMM DCPS has a attendance policy and if you miss too many days a school can boot you back to your IB. IB can't do too much other than call CPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Going to be interesting to see how basically banning school suspensions for unruly kids is going to work out.

?? where does it ban suspension?
also, we know it doesn't work... those kids would be better served by attending a social skills group, focus, meditation, music, counseling, sports or other class that helps them learn to deal with things differently. Sending them home to a house where the parents probably can't take off work to watch them and might cause them to miss meals does nothing positive at all. In school speical suspension classes would be better.

[Anonymous]

Let’s be clear. The council pushed for no suspensions, changing admissions, and PTA dues. OSSE is pushing for change in SS curriculum. Dcps is the punching bag of many entities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But don’t worry....the lowered standards now exclude attendance. That’s right you can attend a selective school even if you don’t attend school!

UMM DCPS has a attendance policy and if you miss too many days a school can boot you back to your IB. IB can't do too much other than call CPS.

Not anymore: "No student will be transferred from their school for absenteeism, including students who are attending an out of boundary school." Page 6. https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/page_content/attachments/FINAL%20DCPS%20Attendance%20and%20Truancy%20Policy%2008-21-18.pdf

[Anonymous]

Froyo mob enablement

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But don’t worry....the lowered standards now exclude attendance. That’s right you can attend a selective school even if you don’t attend school!

UMM DCPS has a attendance policy and if you miss too many days a school can boot you back to your IB. IB can't do too much other than call CPS.

Not anymore: "No student will be transferred from their school for absenteeism, including students who are attending an out of boundary school." Page 6. https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/page_content/attachments/FINAL%20DCPS%20Attendance%20and%20Truancy%20Policy%2008-21-18.pdf

Those things aren’t what the first PP was referring to. A student’s attendance record can’t be a factor used to determine whether a student can apply to a selective high school. FWIW when that was used by one of at least one of the high schools, excused and unexcused absences, were countered. A kid who dealt with a serious illness but was otherwise a good student considered was out of luck.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Omg! The hand wringing on this thread is over the top. I am so thankful I didn’t have parents like you. You probably spent hours doing flash cards and worksheets with your toddlers. Now constantly ride your MS and HS kids to the brink of suicide obsessed with getting some imaginary leg up on your hypothetical competition. At the end of the day, if you’re making the typical DCUM income, your kid will do just fine in life because as study after study states, it’s better to be rich than smart. In the end, whether or not your Lake Wobegone gifted child is being challenged enough in DCPS, s/he will likely go to college, graduate, and do fine.

Now if your complaints were actually concerns for our DCPS community as a whole, I have respect for you.

Let me correct you. The kids will go to college unprepared to compete at a higher level against kids who are used to being challenged and pushed more with a higher performing peer group in a school district that has more rigor and higher expectations. That is what you don’t get.

Just being accepted to college does not cut it. Why don’t you goggle all the articles on kids who did well in poor performing urban schools who then struggled in college. Lots of those articles for you to peruse. Why don’t you ask the kid who graduated from McKinley tech with A’s in math who was placed in remedial math in college. True story. I don’t need to say more.

Again, rich kids can’t fail at life. Statistically impossible.

We all know middle class and upper middle class peers who did not do fine. And some of us are the first generation to claw our way into the middle class, which means all our siblings are working retail or worse. What separates our kids from their cousins? Not much. I agree that the average child from an average middle class or upper middle class family is likly to do fine. But what about the ADHD kid? I'm not defending this thread, which is dumb and hperbolic. But I am dismissing the statement that our kids will do fine because of our SES. Lots of variables still at play.

+1. Two of my UMC kids have special needs, and the aides in the classrooms are the only thing keeping them from completely sinking under. Teachers don't have much time to help the advanced or the the struggling. They teach to the middle.

DCPS and DCPCS do a horrible job of serving SN students, but to be fair so does the rest of the country. The sad thing is that it's hard for UMC parents to advocate and obtain the services. Schools don't want to pay for much-needed services so it's a fight. Most of us end up supplementing with tutoring. This leaves the poor SN kids just underserved. It would have been so much better if Grosso and Gray took on this challenge to push for getting all kids the supports they need, rather than this race-baiting political stunt to take away parent-funded supports for some schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But don’t worry....the lowered standards now exclude attendance. That’s right you can attend a selective school even if you don’t attend school!

UMM DCPS has a attendance policy and if you miss too many days a school can boot you back to your IB. IB can't do too much other than call CPS.

Not anymore: "No student will be transferred from their school for absenteeism, including students who are attending an out of boundary school." Page 6. https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/page_content/attachments/FINAL%20DCPS%20Attendance%20and%20Truancy%20Policy%2008-21-18.pdf

Those things aren’t what the first PP was referring to. A student’s attendance record can’t be a factor used to determine whether a student can apply to a selective high school. FWIW when that was used by one of at least one of the high schools, excused and unexcused absences, were countered. A kid who dealt with a serious illness but was otherwise a good student considered was out of luck.

Then recommendations and the application can explain this. But the kid who is skipping school a lot just for giggles should be lit of luck

[Anonymous]

The kid who is skipping school is unlikely to have the grades or teacher’s refs (at schools that use them) to be admitted. And if someone gets through they will either get their act together they will be counseled out. That’s already what happens at SWW and Banneker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Going to be interesting to see how basically banning school suspensions for unruly kids is going to work out.

Suspension pretty consistently worsens kids behavior so I guess it depends on your perspective. If you want classroom environments to improve then it’s great. If you want to reinforce your belief that your child is perfect and that other kids are the problem you can blame everything on its sucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going to be interesting to see how basically banning school suspensions for unruly kids is going to work out.

Suspension pretty consistently worsens kids behavior so I guess it depends on your perspective. If you want classroom environments to improve then it’s great. If you want to reinforce your belief that your child is perfect and that other kids are the problem you can blame everything on its sucks.

I was suspended as a kid. Suspension doesn’t work. I think kids who have behavioral problems should be assigned a social worker or psychologist because it is usually a symptom of problems at home. A kid with behavioral problems has parent problems (unless it is an ADHD or other LD problem).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg! The hand wringing on this thread is over the top. I am so thankful I didn’t have parents like you. You probably spent hours doing flash cards and worksheets with your toddlers. Now constantly ride your MS and HS kids to the brink of suicide obsessed with getting some imaginary leg up on your hypothetical competition. At the end of the day, if you’re making the typical DCUM income, your kid will do just fine in life because as study after study states, it’s better to be rich than smart. In the end, whether or not your Lake Wobegone gifted child is being challenged enough in DCPS, s/he will likely go to college, graduate, and do fine.

Now if your complaints were actually concerns for our DCPS community as a whole, I have respect for you.

Let me correct you. The kids will go to college unprepared to compete at a higher level against kids who are used to being challenged and pushed more with a higher performing peer group in a school district that has more rigor and higher expectations. That is what you don’t get.

Just being accepted to college does not cut it. Why don’t you goggle all the articles on kids who did well in poor performing urban schools who then struggled in college. Lots of those articles for you to peruse. Why don’t you ask the kid who graduated from McKinley tech with A’s in math who was placed in remedial math in college. True story. I don’t need to say more.

Again, rich kids can’t fail at life. Statistically impossible.

We all know middle class and upper middle class peers who did not do fine. And some of us are the first generation to claw our way into the middle class, which means all our siblings are working retail or worse. What separates our kids from their cousins? Not much. I agree that the average child from an average middle class or upper middle class family is likly to do fine. But what about the ADHD kid? I'm not defending this thread, which is dumb and hperbolic. But I am dismissing the statement that our kids will do fine because of our SES. Lots of variables still at play.

+1. Two of my UMC kids have special needs, and the aides in the classrooms are the only thing keeping them from completely sinking under. Teachers don't have much time to help the advanced or the the struggling. They teach to the middle.

DCPS and DCPCS do a horrible job of serving SN students, but to be fair so does the rest of the country. The sad thing is that it's hard for UMC parents to advocate and obtain the services. Schools don't want to pay for much-needed services so it's a fight. Most of us end up supplementing with tutoring. This leaves the poor SN kids just underserved. It would have been so much better if Grosso and Gray took on this challenge to push for getting all kids the supports they need, rather than this race-baiting political stunt to take away parent-funded supports for some schools.

+1000. You're right, PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. Lowering the standards at Walls, Banneker, etc.

2. Revising the social studies curriculum.

3. Mandating PTA spending.

What specifically are you referring to here? Was there an announcement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going to be interesting to see how basically banning school suspensions for unruly kids is going to work out.

Suspension pretty consistently worsens kids behavior so I guess it depends on your perspective. If you want classroom environments to improve then it’s great. If you want to reinforce your belief that your child is perfect and that other kids are the problem you can blame everything on its sucks.

Suspension helps the rest of the students actually have a chance to learn something.