happening right now: 250 migrant children held in terrible, inhumane conditions in Texas

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:So is this thread a call to action or just wishful thinking, while Congress does nothing?


I just feel so helpless and sad, honestly. I have always wondered what I would do if - just for example - Hitler came to power, and I wasn't personally in danger. And now I know - I would post a lot to social media, talk a lot to friends, vote. And sit here complacently while we do the unthinkable to the innocent.


What makes it especially hard to do anything is that the Trump administration has made it so hard to see what's happening. Neither the media not members of Congress have had an easy time getting access to the children to observe conditions on the ground. Trump's people know how Americans would react if they could see with their own eyes what they're doing.

Nonetheless, there is enough public information that anyone who still supports this administration should be ashamed.


But we know enough to know this is egregiously cruel. Incredibly inhumane. And bad enough when these things happen to adults. But these are babies. Their brains are forming now. These experiences will shape them for their whole lives. Instead of being loved and cared for, they are essentially being treated like the babies in the wire monkey mother experiments.

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/publications/observer/obsonline/harlows-classic-studies-revealed-the-importance-of-maternal-contact.html

We are torturing them. We are torturing them because we are governed by an evil person, and everyone around him is complicit because they get what they want if they go along with it - or they actually believe this is ok.

We should be rioting over this.


All that has to happen for this to be fixed is Congress to allocate funds. Trump doesn’t hold the purse strings.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:So is this thread a call to action or just wishful thinking, while Congress does nothing?


I just feel so helpless and sad, honestly. I have always wondered what I would do if - just for example - Hitler came to power, and I wasn't personally in danger. And now I know - I would post a lot to social media, talk a lot to friends, vote. And sit here complacently while we do the unthinkable to the innocent.


What makes it especially hard to do anything is that the Trump administration has made it so hard to see what's happening. Neither the media not members of Congress have had an easy time getting access to the children to observe conditions on the ground. Trump's people know how Americans would react if they could see with their own eyes what they're doing.

Nonetheless, there is enough public information that anyone who still supports this administration should be ashamed.


But we know enough to know this is egregiously cruel. Incredibly inhumane. And bad enough when these things happen to adults. But these are babies. Their brains are forming now. These experiences will shape them for their whole lives. Instead of being loved and cared for, they are essentially being treated like the babies in the wire monkey mother experiments.

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/publications/observer/obsonline/harlows-classic-studies-revealed-the-importance-of-maternal-contact.html

We are torturing them. We are torturing them because we are governed by an evil person, and everyone around him is complicit because they get what they want if they go along with it - or they actually believe this is ok.

We should be rioting over this.


All that has to happen for this to be fixed is Congress to allocate funds. Trump doesn’t hold the purse strings.


May your family never be refugees. May you never suffer malice or incompetence that causes your children to be taken from you and held in jail with dirty diapers and other children to try to keep them alive, while armed adults make jokes and laugh about your suffering. While they hope you suffer more.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Distribution of these children to liberals


I would make room in my home in a heartbeat, for as long as necessary.


You’d take a family in and provide all food, clothing, and medical care out of pocket? And provide child care and transportation?



I'll be completely honest, because I've given this some thought. We can just barely pay our bills every month. We are middle class, with lots of education and social resources and very little cash. Lots of student loans, etc. I have young children, including a daughter, and would not be comfortable with an adult man or even teenage boys in my home that I didn't know. We have a guest room, so they would have to fit in there. I could accommodate a mother with one or two young children. We could accommodate and care for two young children without a parent who were elementary age. We can't afford childcare, so children too young for school would not work. We could manage the additional cost of food, clothing, etc. DH is a federal employee, so if the government would agree to cover the cost of adding them to our health insurance, that would be great. We could figure out how to deal with additional healthcare costs if they were otherwise insured. I live in a community that is about 30% latino, so I think we could connect them socially with people that share their language and culture to make them feel less scared and more at home.

It would be hard, no doubt about it, but it is a privilege to help others in need because it means I have resources to share.


So you would split up a family because you are uncomfortable?

You sound nice but families should be together. Kids need their fathers. Where would the teenage brother stay? Alone in a disgusting shelter while the rest of his family had a decent place?

Not cool.


Oh, good grief, of course not. The foremost atrocity in this whole situation is the separation of families. I'm describing what kinds of families we, personally, could accommodate. Read the article OP quoted. There are children there with no adults taking care of them. I'm describing the slice of the problem that my family would be in a position to help. I would love it if I had a separate apartment or guest cottage that could house a family with a father and/or older boys. I have a teenage son, myself, and I adore his many wonderful friends, so I'm not particularly suspicious of boys or men, but I'm also not naive or ignorant of statistics.

This whole situation sickens me like nothing I can remember.


These for-profit concentration camps charge us, the taxpayers, $750 per day, per child.

Meanwhile, it costs $22,000 to detain *one child* for *one month* and they're not even provided with soap, toothbrushes or beds. Who’s getting richer off of this disaster?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So is this thread a call to action or just wishful thinking, while Congress does nothing?


I just feel so helpless and sad, honestly. I have always wondered what I would do if - just for example - Hitler came to power, and I wasn't personally in danger. And now I know - I would post a lot to social media, talk a lot to friends, vote. And sit here complacently while we do the unthinkable to the innocent.


What makes it especially hard to do anything is that the Trump administration has made it so hard to see what's happening. Neither the media not members of Congress have had an easy time getting access to the children to observe conditions on the ground. Trump's people know how Americans would react if they could see with their own eyes what they're doing.

Nonetheless, there is enough public information that anyone who still supports this administration should be ashamed.


But we know enough to know this is egregiously cruel. Incredibly inhumane. And bad enough when these things happen to adults. But these are babies. Their brains are forming now. These experiences will shape them for their whole lives. Instead of being loved and cared for, they are essentially being treated like the babies in the wire monkey mother experiments.

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/publications/observer/obsonline/harlows-classic-studies-revealed-the-importance-of-maternal-contact.html

We are torturing them. We are torturing them because we are governed by an evil person, and everyone around him is complicit because they get what they want if they go along with it - or they actually believe this is ok.

We should be rioting over this.


All that has to happen for this to be fixed is Congress to allocate funds. Trump doesn’t hold the purse strings.


May your family never be refugees. May you never suffer malice or incompetence that causes your children to be taken from you and held in jail with dirty diapers and other children to try to keep them alive, while armed adults make jokes and laugh about your suffering. While they hope you suffer more.


NP. Good grief, hyperbole much? Do you actually think BP is "making jokes and laughing about (their) suffering"? They are so overwhelmed with people, they're doing their level best just to keep a roof over the heads of these children. What would you have them do if they don't have the funds to do anything?? Stop overdramatizing and villainizing BP and use your brain. They are doing their jobs as well as they possibly can given the thousands of people in their charge and the lack of $$. Where is Mexico in all this?? Why is the US solely responsible for these people?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:And they took away sports and activities and are now arguing that they don’t have to provide soap, toothpaste or towels.

To CHILDREN.

Effing monsters.

I want them all tried at The Hague.


Re-read your post, you loon, and pull yourself together. The BP and the administration have made it crystal clear a humanitarian crisis was brewing long before the election. But, NOOOOOOOO the fake news outlets claimed it was a political ploy. You want to blame someone, start with the facts deniers.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So is this thread a call to action or just wishful thinking, while Congress does nothing?


I just feel so helpless and sad, honestly. I have always wondered what I would do if - just for example - Hitler came to power, and I wasn't personally in danger. And now I know - I would post a lot to social media, talk a lot to friends, vote. And sit here complacently while we do the unthinkable to the innocent.


What makes it especially hard to do anything is that the Trump administration has made it so hard to see what's happening. Neither the media not members of Congress have had an easy time getting access to the children to observe conditions on the ground. Trump's people know how Americans would react if they could see with their own eyes what they're doing.

Nonetheless, there is enough public information that anyone who still supports this administration should be ashamed.


But we know enough to know this is egregiously cruel. Incredibly inhumane. And bad enough when these things happen to adults. But these are babies. Their brains are forming now. These experiences will shape them for their whole lives. Instead of being loved and cared for, they are essentially being treated like the babies in the wire monkey mother experiments.

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/publications/observer/obsonline/harlows-classic-studies-revealed-the-importance-of-maternal-contact.html

We are torturing them. We are torturing them because we are governed by an evil person, and everyone around him is complicit because they get what they want if they go along with it - or they actually believe this is ok.

We should be rioting over this.


All that has to happen for this to be fixed is Congress to allocate funds. Trump doesn’t hold the purse strings.


May your family never be refugees. May you never suffer malice or incompetence that causes your children to be taken from you and held in jail with dirty diapers and other children to try to keep them alive, while armed adults make jokes and laugh about your suffering. While they hope you suffer more.


Link?

Here on Earth, the BP are overwhelmed, sick and dropping like flies from helping people who are getting them sick. BP are watching these kids and taking care of them to the best of their abilities which is far better than their own parents, IMHO. It is a sh#t show down there and if you are so concerned, get your a$$ down there and lend support to those who are actually making a difference. You'd lose your mind if a child was send with someone who was a pedophile or trafficker. Any reasonable person prioritizes physical safety over brushing teeth and 3 hots and a cot, kids being babysat and a nasty diaper. (I can assure you I collected one of my kids from a pricey preschool without socks and shoes on and with wet pants. Crap happens. Collect toothbrushes, offer to wash clothes, send diapers. Just STFU.

#TEAMBP
Anonymous
what happens if they want to return home rather than suffer?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:what happens if they want to return home rather than suffer?


The toddlers? All they need to do is say they want to leaches and BP should dump them over the border. /s

They would need a caregiver. And BP made it a point to separate them from their parents and then lose the parents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So is this thread a call to action or just wishful thinking, while Congress does nothing?


I just feel so helpless and sad, honestly. I have always wondered what I would do if - just for example - Hitler came to power, and I wasn't personally in danger. And now I know - I would post a lot to social media, talk a lot to friends, vote. And sit here complacently while we do the unthinkable to the innocent.


What makes it especially hard to do anything is that the Trump administration has made it so hard to see what's happening. Neither the media not members of Congress have had an easy time getting access to the children to observe conditions on the ground. Trump's people know how Americans would react if they could see with their own eyes what they're doing.

Nonetheless, there is enough public information that anyone who still supports this administration should be ashamed.


But we know enough to know this is egregiously cruel. Incredibly inhumane. And bad enough when these things happen to adults. But these are babies. Their brains are forming now. These experiences will shape them for their whole lives. Instead of being loved and cared for, they are essentially being treated like the babies in the wire monkey mother experiments.

https://www.psychologicalscience.org/publications/observer/obsonline/harlows-classic-studies-revealed-the-importance-of-maternal-contact.html

We are torturing them. We are torturing them because we are governed by an evil person, and everyone around him is complicit because they get what they want if they go along with it - or they actually believe this is ok.

We should be rioting over this.


All that has to happen for this to be fixed is Congress to allocate funds. Trump doesn’t hold the purse strings.


May your family never be refugees. May you never suffer malice or incompetence that causes your children to be taken from you and held in jail with dirty diapers and other children to try to keep them alive, while armed adults make jokes and laugh about your suffering. While they hope you suffer more.


May Congress pass a funding resolution.

Also: There are poor American children living in terrible conditions right now. I wish we could are as much about their circumstances...
Anonymous
The word “migrant” is being used in place of “immigrant.” A migrant is a person who moves from one place to another within a country. My parents were migrants who came to California from Oklahoma and Texas in the early 1940s.

An immigrant is a person who moves from one country from another.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So is this thread a call to action or just wishful thinking, while Congress does nothing?


Congress is actively doing something, on a bipartisan basis.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:So is this thread a call to action or just wishful thinking, while Congress does nothing?


Congress is actively doing something, on a bipartisan basis.


Does the AP know this?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I agree. Maybe just shut the border if Dems continue to do nothing about this crisis.


This is a lie. Are you ignorant and incapable of fact checking? Or are you knowingly lying? See the post above documenting Bipartisan efforts to pass a spending bill before the July 4 recess. Note the use of the work bipartisan.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So is this thread a call to action or just wishful thinking, while Congress does nothing?


Congress is actively doing something, on a bipartisan basis.


Does the AP know this?


I assume so, since they are smart people. But, they are reporting on a Court hearing, where the Trump admin argued that no matter how much money we allocate, toothbrushes and soap are luxuries that they do not intend to revise.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Can we get a Jeff bezos in here to send diapers?

Walton family?

If they 2.2 mil diapers, why are we sending them in packs of 400?

Government, step up.

Big corps, take a minor hit and fulfill the diapers.


Jeff Bezos and the Walton family aren’t responsible for these people.

If our government allows people to claim asylum, it’s their job to provide the 2 million diapers.

And caregivers and food and clothing.





Diapers dont change themselves. To properly care for children takes a huge investment. I would seek help from the UN, doctors without borders etc. If Congress has zero solutions, we still need to treat these people humanely. My mom spent 4 years living in US army tents in a refugee camp, as did many folks who immigrated (legally) to the US. We need a process that treats people as humans; they need patience and to understand that entrance is not guaranteed if they dont qualify for asylum.
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