A shocking number of women are harassed, ignored, or mistreated during childbirth

[Anonymous]

I’m American Indian and you better believe we’re treated like crap in hospitals. I have quite a few relatives who were sterilized without their consent in the 70s while having csections. That’s the Indian health service for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP: I do think the issues are different between white women and WOC. The mistreatment and dismissal of issues gets WOC into serious health situations, including death. Whereas white women are more likely to leave dissatisfied with their provider, maybe mentally traumatized, but otherwise alive.

This is completely untrue. White women die too, didn’t you follow the story of the white NJ nurse whose husband was a doctor who died in the hospital where she worked after birth because they ignored her complications? The Lost Mothers series found plenty of women who died of all races. WOC experience mistreatment at higher rates. Yes, that’s true and unacceptable and no one is arguing otherwise. But the broader issue is that women of all colors experience this. And also, it’s not just about race - as the PP said, if you look at the intersectionality perspective, class, income, disability status, economic status, sexual orientation, education level, etc. all play a role in the treatment/mistreatment women receive in medical environments. Instead of nitpicking over differences, the lens need to be focusing on why the health care field and providers treat women so poorly.

Yes. Let's do the SPECIFIC things we need to do to target race-based inequalities (especially doctors not taking WOC's complaints seriously or treating them less intensively, and not communicating effectively). But it does NOT help WOC to fail to focus on the additional changes that are needed to improve healthcare and increase access, which are likely global, not particular to any race. This conversation starts to remind me of the spurious arguments that free college & universal health care are not progressive because they also benefit white ppl ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP: I do think the issues are different between white women and WOC. The mistreatment and dismissal of issues gets WOC into serious health situations, including death. Whereas white women are more likely to leave dissatisfied with their provider, maybe mentally traumatized, but otherwise alive.

This is completely untrue. White women die too, didn’t you follow the story of the white NJ nurse whose husband was a doctor who died in the hospital where she worked after birth because they ignored her complications? The Lost Mothers series found plenty of women who died of all races. WOC experience mistreatment at higher rates. Yes, that’s true and unacceptable and no one is arguing otherwise. But the broader issue is that women of all colors experience this. And also, it’s not just about race - as the PP said, if you look at the intersectionality perspective, class, income, disability status, economic status, sexual orientation, education level, etc. all play a role in the treatment/mistreatment women receive in medical environments. Instead of nitpicking over differences, the lens need to be focusing on why the health care field and providers treat women so poorly.

Yes. Let's do the SPECIFIC things we need to do to target race-based inequalities (especially doctors not taking WOC's complaints seriously or treating them less intensively, and not communicating effectively). But it does NOT help WOC to fail to focus on the additional changes that are needed to improve healthcare and increase access, which are likely global, not particular to any race. This conversation starts to remind me of the spurious arguments that free college & universal health care are not progressive because they also benefit white ppl ...

Exactly purity tests and suffering Olympics do not serve any progressive agenda, democratic agenda, or rid the country of the Orange Menace agenda.