This should tell you how elite college admissions really are
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Anonymous
Your statement is true if you substitute “athletes” and they are usually a higher percentage of admits, have a much higher admit percentage and are mostly white. That is the single biggest factor in elite college admissions. |
Anonymous
Such an idiotic comment.....those are facts not opinions. And yes, it’s the exact same thing for athletes. |
Anonymous
But I’ll add that the handicap for athletes, while significant, isn’t close to that for URMs.......and that’s before this adversity nonsense factors in. |
Anonymous
Meaning, children of the true elite. Not the UMC or unknown rich but children of parents who have big names in tech, finance, celebrity, and politics. |
Anonymous
Of course. You don't think anyone really wants your typical UMC white kids, do you? This is known. |
Anonymous
The average HHI of Harvard students is 168k......hardly that of your stupid fantasy world portrayal. |
Anonymous
If Obama is the "first black president" - then that kid is Asian period. White is ignored. |
Anonymous
biracial Asian American |
Anonymous
It's obviously the most important thing. Do you ever notice the articles "Accepted to All Ivy League Schools" - when is that kid ever white? The number of black kids who score a composite 2350 or above on the SAT is incredibly low - which is why when they are found - they are gold to any admission staff of a prestigious university. And why is that a surprise? I read recently the number of Detroit Public School kids (think mostly black) who are at or above reading level in 4th grade is 5%. That's at or above. By 4th grade 95% are behind. It's another reason why the "Accepted at All Ivy League" black kid is usually a kid of recent (one or two generation back) immigrants from Africa. |
Anonymous
There are ORM and URM. If race wasn’t a factor in admissions, people would not be rushing to tick the URM boxes. This is not being racist - this is just a fact in college admissions. And in the case of Harvard, Asians are the new Jews but look so completely different and stereotyped as robotic. |
Anonymous
What facts do you have? "amount of effort and money the elites pour into scouring the country for black and Latino applicants that are even remotely qualified is staggering" - how much? "they pour an equal amount of resources into ensuring they graduate at a rate that is somewhat comparable to the median." - how much? "the handicap for athletes, while significant, isn’t close to that for URMs." - how much? just because you assert conclusions as facts, doesn't make them facts. you have no support. Some actual facts: Recruited athletes are admitted to Harvard roughly 80 percent of the time. Recruited athletes with an academic rating of 4 on Harvard's 1-6 scale are admitted at a rate of 70.46%. Non athletes with the same rating are admitted at .076 percent. More than a thousand times less. Ivy League athletes are 65% white 50 to 60 students in each admissions cycle are admitted on Harvard's z-list. Harvard admitted that z-list admits have pre-college academic records more comparable to rejected students are perform far worse than other admitted students. Z list admits for Harvard classes 2014-2019 are 70% white. Are you a racist? who knows? but pulling out one hook and presenting it as the 'most pertinent' factor when you have others that are, at the very least, equally pertinent, but are markedly in favor of white applicants, is well, telling. My opinion: I'd much rather be a white athlete, white rich kid or white legacy than a URM when applying. BTW - the 1995-2013 admit rates by race at Harvard are 13.2% African American 11.1% white 10.6% Hispanic 8.1% Asian Who's really getting screwed here? |
Anonymous
there is another thread on this board about 2019 Whitman admits - 5% of the class is going to Ivy and even higher to top 25 schools. Whitman is 67% white and less than 10% black or Hispanic. UMC white kids are getting in. Now if you argue they're athletes and legacies, then you should complain about that. If you don't believe they are athletes and legacies, then UMC whites should admit that they problem is with their kid not the system (and little bit themselves since they're not legacies). Nothing more irritating that UMC white people complaining they suffer from discrimination. Get a life. |
Anonymous
How many of these articles do you see? one or two a year? Way to extrapolate from isolated incidents. Maybe you don't see this for white kids because they are recruited to a single school, apply ED because they are rich or to their parent's alma mater because they are legacy. They have no need to apply to all the schools. |
Anonymous
Hey genius, you do realize that Harvard only recruits athletes that have a high probability of gaining admission. The coach knows all of the candidates credentials before supporting their candidacy and will direct them to apply ED so obviously they’re going to have a high admit rate. |
Anonymous
| So rich kids from elite boarding schools are getting into Harvard?! What a surprise! And here I thought it was not about money. |