Why are there no DC families being called out on this college fraud

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Anonymous wrote:More old money on the east coast so we know how to play the game the legal way. These people in CA seem clueless. They could have picked up the phone themselves and called the Development Office of the colleges they were interested in and fished for offers of admission with the kind of money they were offering.

This. Or gotten the high school counselors to make the same call.

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Anonymous wrote:My theory is that in general East Coast families are hyper focused on college from an early age and, what pp said, through red shirting, private schools, tutors etc. are gaming the system that way.

They do all that in LA and SF too.

I think it’s just that Singer was a west coast operation. Becoming a client was probably a word of mouth thing.

I bet there are similar schemes on the east coast.

If anyone in DC tried this, their own friends and social circle would turn them in. Rich & powerful people here keep score and keep track of the relative academic and athletic ranking of the kids at their kids schools, the kids from their Country Club friends and the kids of their coworkers. If anyone gets in a school surprisingly above their expectations, people here would ask questions.

how would they know?

only a dummy would brag to friends about bribing an SAT official.

even Trump isn't that stupid.

If an unexceptional kid got into an elite university, and the other parents knew that neither of the kid's parents is a legacy at the university, they haven't funded a building there, and the kid does not have exceptional athletic or other preferential talents, then the other parents would suspect something shady and would pry, either to bust them or to figure out how to do it for their kids. Also, if a student gets into a college that should be out of reach, the teachers, counselors, and other students at the school would immediately be suspicious and would pry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:More old money on the east coast so we know how to play the game the legal way. These people in CA seem clueless. They could have picked up the phone themselves and called the Development Office of the colleges they were interested in and fished for offers of admission with the kind of money they were offering.

This. Or gotten the high school counselors to make the same call.

Totally agree and I wrote the post ... agree the college counselor could/do often make the calls.

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I am sure there is someone doing it here too. But Singer was west coast. Hoping they have someone working DC/NY and they are already know about it. Otherwise all the other groups have been shredding and deleting all day.

[Anonymous]

DC families are smarter. They pay more money and buy their way in legally with a big donation. I have heard of people negotiating with their ivy alma matter. I will give x amount if you accept my child and then the ivy says you need your kid to get X score and it's a deal.

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Anonymous wrote:DC families are smarter. They pay more money and buy their way in legally with a big donation. I have heard of people negotiating with their ivy alma matter. I will give x amount if you accept my child and then the ivy says you need your kid to get X score and it's a deal.

How does the kid get the score?

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Anonymous wrote:My theory is that in general East Coast families are hyper focused on college from an early age and, what pp said, through red shirting, private schools, tutors etc. are gaming the system that way.

They do all that in LA and SF too.

I think it’s just that Singer was a west coast operation. Becoming a client was probably a word of mouth thing.

I bet there are similar schemes on the east coast.

If anyone in DC tried this, their own friends and social circle would turn them in. Rich & powerful people here keep score and keep track of the relative academic and athletic ranking of the kids at their kids schools, the kids from their Country Club friends and the kids of their coworkers. If anyone gets in a school surprisingly above their expectations, people here would ask questions.

how would they know?

only a dummy would brag to friends about bribing an SAT official.

even Trump isn't that stupid.

If an unexceptional kid got into an elite university, and the other parents knew that neither of the kid's parents is a legacy at the university, they haven't funded a building there, and the kid does not have exceptional athletic or other preferential talents, then the other parents would suspect something shady and would pry, either to bust them or to figure out how to do it for their kids. Also, if a student gets into a college that should be out of reach, the teachers, counselors, and other students at the school would immediately be suspicious and would pry.

Counselors, teachers and other parents can pry all they want. What idiot would answer the questions, though? A simple shrug and “college admissions are a roulette wheel!” are all any reasonably bright parent would offer.

Other parents will just assume Larlo got a great rec from the high school because his parents are rich and donated a lot to the high school. And you have to be rich to play this game anyway, so they probably did donate a lot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC families are smarter. They pay more money and buy their way in legally with a big donation. I have heard of people negotiating with their ivy alma matter. I will give x amount if you accept my child and then the ivy says you need your kid to get X score and it's a deal.

How does the kid get the score?

Score doesn’t have to be 98th percentile if there’s a big donation. That’s the point-score was never going to be in the university’s acceptance range and that’s one of the reasons the donation is necessary.

[Anonymous]

If you read the whole affidavit it sure seemed like USC was used to this kind of thing and automatically set aside a few athletic spots for non-athletes whose families were then to make a big donation. I think this system has been around for quite awhile and probably takes place at many schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was surprised to see no one in the area called out in the fraud scam. Why is this? I have a few theories:

1) Singer hadn't cracked the DC/east coast market yet
2) People in DC are doing this but it's sneakier so it hasn't been found out yet
3) people in DC would not be interested in this fraud, it's too beyond the pail for even us

what do you think?

It's beyond the pale, not pail. If you can't even proofread a DCUM post, how are you going to write your kid's college essay?

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Careful what you wish for, all i can say is there are no dc families caught up for NOW. Remember this guy said his scheme put 800 students in elite schools. Here are my thoughts

1. There's no doubt that the dc area has its own Singer-like college scam kingpin given the absurdly high competitiveness of this area. What we know so far has bi-coastal implications mainly LA and NYC and who knows where else --> if you know what i'm talking about.

2. A dc area college scam kingpin might me tempted to proactively talk to the feds in light of recent developments in hopes of avoiding a lengthy sentence should the feds come knocking. Remember that this whole thing started at the IRS when agents there thought something didn't quite add up with Singer's 'charity' and here we are.

3. We don't know what the feds know, Had those actresses not been indicted and arrested, very few people in America not even Trump would've been aware of Operation Varsity Blues. One thing is certain, In many of America's oligarch homes the Alba truffle and Romanee Conti aren't tasting so heavenly anymore.

4. Wait and see

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Anonymous wrote:My theory is that in general East Coast families are hyper focused on college from an early age and, what pp said, through red shirting, private schools, tutors etc. are gaming the system that way.

They do all that in LA and SF too.

I think it’s just that Singer was a west coast operation. Becoming a client was probably a word of mouth thing.

I bet there are similar schemes on the east coast.

If anyone in DC tried this, their own friends and social circle would turn them in. Rich & powerful people here keep score and keep track of the relative academic and athletic ranking of the kids at their kids schools, the kids from their Country Club friends and the kids of their coworkers. If anyone gets in a school surprisingly above their expectations, people here would ask questions.

how would they know?

only a dummy would brag to friends about bribing an SAT official.

even Trump isn't that stupid.

If an unexceptional kid got into an elite university, and the other parents knew that neither of the kid's parents is a legacy at the university, they haven't funded a building there, and the kid does not have exceptional athletic or other preferential talents, then the other parents would suspect something shady and would pry, either to bust them or to figure out how to do it for their kids. Also, if a student gets into a college that should be out of reach, the teachers, counselors, and other students at the school would immediately be suspicious and would pry.

Counselors, teachers and other parents can pry all they want. What idiot would answer the questions, though? A simple shrug and “college admissions are a roulette wheel!” are all any reasonably bright parent would offer.

Other parents will just assume Larlo got a great rec from the high school because his parents are rich and donated a lot to the high school. And you have to be rich to play this game anyway, so they probably did donate a lot.

Kids talk. Parents talk to each other, to teachers, and to counselors. If no one has a reasonable explanation for why an unexceptional student got into Yale, while exceptional students did not, they don't need a confession or all the evidence to make a phone call.

[Anonymous]

OP. The word that you should have used is "pale". Not "pail". Did you also bribe someone so that you could get into college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you read the whole affidavit it sure seemed like USC was used to this kind of thing and automatically set aside a few athletic spots for non-athletes whose families were then to make a big donation. I think this system has been around for quite awhile and probably takes place at many schools.

That's because it was the Associate Athletic Director, not just a single sport coach, who managed the scheme at USC. She knew which coaches had open recruit slots and would be willing to sell them.

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Anonymous wrote:My theory is that in general East Coast families are hyper focused on college from an early age and, what pp said, through red shirting, private schools, tutors etc. are gaming the system that way.

They do all that in LA and SF too.

I think it’s just that Singer was a west coast operation. Becoming a client was probably a word of mouth thing.

I bet there are similar schemes on the east coast.

If anyone in DC tried this, their own friends and social circle would turn them in. Rich & powerful people here keep score and keep track of the relative academic and athletic ranking of the kids at their kids schools, the kids from their Country Club friends and the kids of their coworkers. If anyone gets in a school surprisingly above their expectations, people here would ask questions.

+1 I'm still trying to figure out how the YouTube star was able to fake being a rowing team recruit. She has a huge social media presence. How did no one notice?