Why are there no DC families being called out on this college fraud

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Anonymous wrote:All this makes me feel like a failure in parenting. The length, effort needed to cheat and break the law to put their kids through college. It just would have never occurred to me to bribe someone, cheat, fake sports to get my kids into college of my/ their choice. I feel like a bad parent - like i don’t love my kids enough to go to such lengths.

They didn't do this because they love their kids. They did this to feed their own massive egos.

I’m not so sure. What if your kid always dreamed of attending X university, told all his/her friends he wants to go there, and you had the means of facilitating it? Some kids really didn’t know what cheating schemes their parents were implementing for them. I wouldn’t do it, but I think some parents would (and obviously did) cheat because they live their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:All this makes me feel like a failure in parenting. The length, effort needed to cheat and break the law to put their kids through college. It just would have never occurred to me to bribe someone, cheat, fake sports to get my kids into college of my/ their choice. I feel like a bad parent - like i don’t love my kids enough to go to such lengths.

They didn't do this because they love their kids. They did this to feed their own massive egos.

I’m not so sure. What if your kid always dreamed of attending X university, told all his/her friends he wants to go there, and you had the means of facilitating it? Some kids really didn’t know what cheating schemes their parents were implementing for them. I wouldn’t do it, but I think some parents would (and obviously did) cheat because they live their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:All this makes me feel like a failure in parenting. The length, effort needed to cheat and break the law to put their kids through college. It just would have never occurred to me to bribe someone, cheat, fake sports to get my kids into college of my/ their choice. I feel like a bad parent - like i don’t love my kids enough to go to such lengths.

I love my children, accept them as they are and would never want them to live their lives as complete and total frauds. Honestly going to community college is way better than committing fraud to get yourself into a "Highly competitive" college.

I don't think that a significant percentage of kids in college are only there because of bribe money, lying and fraud but the ones who are taint the reputation of their universities for all of the other kids who actually worked their butts off and earned the privilege to be there.

This whole scandal is so sad. Greed, envy, money, appearances.

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Anonymous wrote:All this makes me feel like a failure in parenting. The length, effort needed to cheat and break the law to put their kids through college. It just would have never occurred to me to bribe someone, cheat, fake sports to get my kids into college of my/ their choice. I feel like a bad parent - like i don’t love my kids enough to go to such lengths.

They didn't do this because they love their kids. They did this to feed their own massive egos.

I’m not so sure. What if your kid always dreamed of attending X university, told all his/her friends he wants to go there, and you had the means of facilitating it? Some kids really didn’t know what cheating schemes their parents were implementing for them. I wouldn’t do it, but I think some parents would (and obviously did) cheat because they live their kids.

Their kids signed off on their applications and must have played along to some degree. How do you get admitted to a college as a member of the Crew team and then never once attend a Crew event? How do you take the SAT and not realize that your score is not a competitive score? How do you go into the ACT and not realize that the proctor is giving you the answers to the test?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All this makes me feel like a failure in parenting. The length, effort needed to cheat and break the law to put their kids through college. It just would have never occurred to me to bribe someone, cheat, fake sports to get my kids into college of my/ their choice. I feel like a bad parent - like i don’t love my kids enough to go to such lengths.

They didn't do this because they love their kids. They did this to feed their own massive egos.

I’m not so sure. What if your kid always dreamed of attending X university, told all his/her friends he wants to go there, and you had the means of facilitating it? Some kids really didn’t know what cheating schemes their parents were implementing for them. I wouldn’t do it, but I think some parents would (and obviously did) cheat because they live their kids.

Lori's kid didn't even want to GO to school, no less dreamed about it.

I would not cheat because I love my kids. Jesus Christ, that is not a lesson I would want to pass on. "Step on others, lie, cheat, steal, whatever it takes." No. You play a fair game and if it doesn't work out? Well that's a life lesson that you can't always get what you want. Everyone needs to learn that sooner or later and everyone needs to learn to be flexible in life when things don't go our way.

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I know some area families who could be nervous, not for schemes so crass and brazen, but maybe in the ballpark.

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Hold my hat - I got into the most elite college back in the day I I know exactly how to do it today too. It won't involve cheating, just being very strategic.

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Anonymous wrote:Because dahling, we are smarter - we use our private schools counselors to facilitate our donations to the school (and those counselors will call these colleges on our behalf as we just donated $500,000 at private school fundraiser) and our little spawns are athletes (in tennis/squash/volleyball/) taking easy A classes at our $50k privates and our doctors/consultants already arranged for the extra time accommodation

Actually, we ARE smarter. This area is a lot more educated and high IQ, and I presume that our children need fewer boosts to score 1270 on the SAT. Which $50,000 private around here offers easy As?

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Anonymous wrote:If you read the whole affidavit it sure seemed like USC was used to this kind of thing and automatically set aside a few athletic spots for non-athletes whose families were then to make a big donation. I think this system has been around for quite awhile and probably takes place at many schools.

That's because it was the Associate Athletic Director, not just a single sport coach, who managed the scheme at USC. She knew which coaches had open recruit slots and would be willing to sell them.

I don't get this...do the coaches not watch the kids play their sport? I mean, my daughter was just a lowly D3 recruit but she had coaches at her games and she sent in video.

The coaches were in on the bribe all the way. It was just easier at USC because the Associate AD managed whether a kid should be a fake coxswain or a fake water polo goalie or something else. These kids were never expected to show up for the sport or ever acknowledge that they used a recruited athlete admission slot. The coaches knew the photos and letters and rankings and awards were all made up.

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OP, this is exactly what I've been wondering. Surely there is an east coast equivalent college "counselor"/scam artist. It would be very interesting to see a list of all the east coast families who have "paid to play," so to speak.

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Anonymous wrote:My theory is that in general East Coast families are hyper focused on college from an early age and, what pp said, through red shirting, private schools, tutors etc. are gaming the system that way.

They do all that in LA and SF too.

I think it’s just that Singer was a west coast operation. Becoming a client was probably a word of mouth thing.

I bet there are similar schemes on the east coast.

If anyone in DC tried this, their own friends and social circle would turn them in. Rich & powerful people here keep score and keep track of the relative academic and athletic ranking of the kids at their kids schools, the kids from their Country Club friends and the kids of their coworkers. If anyone gets in a school surprisingly above their expectations, people here would ask questions.

+1 I'm still trying to figure out how the YouTube star was able to fake being a rowing team recruit. She has a huge social media presence. How did no one notice?

The only people who knew she was a recruit were the coach, the associate AD and the admissions committee that were fed the phony profile. I’m guessing the admissions committee is not spending all day watching other people pose and prance and talk about buying shit on social media.

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Anonymous wrote:My theory is that in general East Coast families are hyper focused on college from an early age and, what pp said, through red shirting, private schools, tutors etc. are gaming the system that way.

They do all that in LA and SF too.

I think it’s just that Singer was a west coast operation. Becoming a client was probably a word of mouth thing.

I bet there are similar schemes on the east coast.

If anyone in DC tried this, their own friends and social circle would turn them in. Rich & powerful people here keep score and keep track of the relative academic and athletic ranking of the kids at their kids schools, the kids from their Country Club friends and the kids of their coworkers. If anyone gets in a school surprisingly above their expectations, people here would ask questions.

+1 I'm still trying to figure out how the YouTube star was able to fake being a rowing team recruit. She has a huge social media presence. How did no one notice?

The only people who knew she was a recruit were the coach, the associate AD and the admissions committee that were fed the phony profile. I’m guessing the admissions committee is not spending all day watching other people pose and prance and talk about buying shit on social media.

They picked non-scholarship, non-revenue sports for a reason. There is no rabid fan base following recruiting for crew or water polo. I’m sure Olivia’s name was never publicly released as a recruited athlete.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All this makes me feel like a failure in parenting. The length, effort needed to cheat and break the law to put their kids through college. It just would have never occurred to me to bribe someone, cheat, fake sports to get my kids into college of my/ their choice. I feel like a bad parent - like i don’t love my kids enough to go to such lengths.

They didn't do this because they love their kids. They did this to feed their own massive egos.

I’m not so sure. What if your kid always dreamed of attending X university, told all his/her friends he wants to go there, and you had the means of facilitating it? Some kids really didn’t know what cheating schemes their parents were implementing for them. I wouldn’t do it, but I think some parents would (and obviously did) cheat because they live their kids.

Lori's kid didn't even want to GO to school, no less dreamed about it.

I would not cheat because I love my kids. Jesus Christ, that is not a lesson I would want to pass on. "Step on others, lie, cheat, steal, whatever it takes." No. You play a fair game and if it doesn't work out? Well that's a life lesson that you can't always get what you want. Everyone needs to learn that sooner or later and everyone needs to learn to be flexible in life when things don't go our way.

I am PPP. I was talking about the kids who didn’t know that their parents cheated their way in for them. I think there are a few kids who really were blindsided.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All this makes me feel like a failure in parenting. The length, effort needed to cheat and break the law to put their kids through college. It just would have never occurred to me to bribe someone, cheat, fake sports to get my kids into college of my/ their choice. I feel like a bad parent - like i don’t love my kids enough to go to such lengths.

They didn't do this because they love their kids. They did this to feed their own massive egos.

I’m not so sure. What if your kid always dreamed of attending X university, told all his/her friends he wants to go there, and you had the means of facilitating it? Some kids really didn’t know what cheating schemes their parents were implementing for them. I wouldn’t do it, but I think some parents would (and obviously did) cheat because they live their kids.

Umm, nope. A parent who truly loves their kid will teach them how to behave within the parameters of the law. Parents who love their children teach them that their self-worth is not contingent on attending a particular university. Teaching your kids to cheat, or cheating on behalf of them, so they can get ahead is NOT an expression of love.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All this makes me feel like a failure in parenting. The length, effort needed to cheat and break the law to put their kids through college. It just would have never occurred to me to bribe someone, cheat, fake sports to get my kids into college of my/ their choice. I feel like a bad parent - like i don’t love my kids enough to go to such lengths.

They didn't do this because they love their kids. They did this to feed their own massive egos.

I’m not so sure. What if your kid always dreamed of attending X university, told all his/her friends he wants to go there, and you had the means of facilitating it? Some kids really didn’t know what cheating schemes their parents were implementing for them. I wouldn’t do it, but I think some parents would (and obviously did) cheat because they live their kids.

Their kids signed off on their applications and must have played along to some degree. How do you get admitted to a college as a member of the Crew team and then never once attend a Crew event? How do you take the SAT and not realize that your score is not a competitive score? How do you go into the ACT and not realize that the proctor is giving you the answers to the test?

I was talking about the kids who didn’t know what their parents were doing for them.