Sanctuary Cities are Stupid

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Anonymous wrote:We have an entire federal government agency dedicated to nothing but the enforcement of immigration law. Local police need to do their own job. They don’t have the time of resources to do immigration. How about ICE does its job and stop complaining?

Quite a few jurisdictions have the time and resources to do it. If they're not doing it it's because they don't want to.

Or maybe because they are aware of the federal appellate court rulings indicating that they are not supposed to do so.

And yet some jurisdictions still do it. Must not be an issue.

They can if they want to, but feds can't force states to. That's the point.

Well that is exactly what I said. If they're not doing it it's because they don't want to. I didn't say anything about forcing them to

They don't want to because they have more important things to do, like going after violent criminals, thieves, etc.. They don't regard undocumented immigrants who otherwise don't break local laws as a danger to society. If you really think going after an undocumented farm worker is more urgent than a child abuser, well, I guess that shows you where your priorities are. And before you say they can do both, no, they can't if they have limited resources. Many large cities have very little room in their local jails, and they don't have unlimited budget.

Here's a thought... why not spend some of that border funding to build more holding cells in the interior of the country, and hire more ICE agents to do sweeps. I'm sure the R farmers would appreciate ICE agents arresting their workers because they don't support illegal immigrants, right?

No one said anything of the sort. But if you stumble across men at Home Depot or 7-11, don't just turn a blind eye.

They absolutely can do both. As you said more detention centers can be built. Eventually they will get the message.

Read what I wrote.. I even bolded it for you. Most local law enforcement are busy trying to deal with violent crime and theft. They leave the undocumented workers to the Feds, as they should.

More detention centers "can" be built, but they aren't.

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Anonymous wrote:We have an entire federal government agency dedicated to nothing but the enforcement of immigration law. Local police need to do their own job. They don’t have the time of resources to do immigration. How about ICE does its job and stop complaining?

Quite a few jurisdictions have the time and resources to do it. If they're not doing it it's because they don't want to.

Or maybe because they are aware of the federal appellate court rulings indicating that they are not supposed to do so.

And yet some jurisdictions still do it. Must not be an issue.

They can if they want to, but feds can't force states to. That's the point.

Well that is exactly what I said. If they're not doing it it's because they don't want to. I didn't say anything about forcing them to

They don't want to because they have more important things to do, like going after violent criminals, thieves, etc.. They don't regard undocumented immigrants who otherwise don't break local laws as a danger to society. If you really think going after an undocumented farm worker is more urgent than a child abuser, well, I guess that shows you where your priorities are. And before you say they can do both, no, they can't if they have limited resources. Many large cities have very little room in their local jails, and they don't have unlimited budget.

Here's a thought... why not spend some of that border funding to build more holding cells in the interior of the country, and hire more ICE agents to do sweeps. I'm sure the R farmers would appreciate ICE agents arresting their workers because they don't support illegal immigrants, right?

No one said anything of the sort. But if you stumble across men at Home Depot or 7-11, don't just turn a blind eye.

They absolutely can do both. As you said more detention centers can be built. Eventually they will get the message.

Read what I wrote.. I even bolded it for you. Most local law enforcement are busy trying to deal with violent crime and theft. They leave the undocumented workers to the Feds, as they should.

More detention centers "can" be built, but they aren't.

I read what you wrote the first time. Just because you said it doesnt make it so.

Congress just increased the number of beds that ICE can use to detain people in the spending bill that was just signed... so they in fact are increasing the number of detention centers (or at least the beds used to detain illegal immigrants).

[Anonymous]

I'll bring these forward so they don't get missed from the prior page:

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… These cases are going to continue to be contested until there is clear guidance issued. It may not happen under Trump, but it will be settled. The fact that everyone isn't on the same page at this moment doesn't mean it "must not be an issue." Actually, it's a looming one.

Give me a break. The ACLU is in every state. If they had a case they wouldve brought it by now in those jurisdictions who were participating.

The state of Massachusetts decided on their own. Texas went the other direction as they just passed a law that banned sanctuary city policies and it was upheld.

Didn't the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals just a month or two ago rule that AG Paxton’s case to pre-emptively establish the constitutionality of the Governor's bill was “unconvincing,” leaving the door open for officials in Austin, San Antonio, and other sites to sue the state and try it on its merits in court? Which they later did, with those cases in progress, no?

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I'm not clear how you sorted through which cases have and have not been filed, and those which are (or are not) being prepared. Could you talk me through the process?

The ACLU does press releases everytime they sneeze. No lawsuits on this have been announced but if you know of one feel free to post it. As I mentioned Texas anti- sanctuary city law was upheld.

Ah. So what number of filings would you consider to be "an issue?" I can add the ones that are pending in Texas, if you like.

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Anonymous wrote:We have an entire federal government agency dedicated to nothing but the enforcement of immigration law. Local police need to do their own job. They don’t have the time of resources to do immigration. How about ICE does its job and stop complaining?

Quite a few jurisdictions have the time and resources to do it. If they're not doing it it's because they don't want to.

Or maybe because they are aware of the federal appellate court rulings indicating that they are not supposed to do so.

And yet some jurisdictions still do it. Must not be an issue.

They can if they want to, but feds can't force states to. That's the point.

Well that is exactly what I said. If they're not doing it it's because they don't want to. I didn't say anything about forcing them to

They don't want to because they have more important things to do, like going after violent criminals, thieves, etc.. They don't regard undocumented immigrants who otherwise don't break local laws as a danger to society. If you really think going after an undocumented farm worker is more urgent than a child abuser, well, I guess that shows you where your priorities are. And before you say they can do both, no, they can't if they have limited resources. Many large cities have very little room in their local jails, and they don't have unlimited budget.

Here's a thought... why not spend some of that border funding to build more holding cells in the interior of the country, and hire more ICE agents to do sweeps. I'm sure the R farmers would appreciate ICE agents arresting their workers because they don't support illegal immigrants, right?

No one said anything of the sort. But if you stumble across men at Home Depot or 7-11, don't just turn a blind eye.

They absolutely can do both. As you said more detention centers can be built. Eventually they will get the message.

Read what I wrote.. I even bolded it for you. Most local law enforcement are busy trying to deal with violent crime and theft. They leave the undocumented workers to the Feds, as they should.

More detention centers "can" be built, but they aren't.

I read what you wrote the first time. Just because you said it doesnt make it so.

Congress just increased the number of beds that ICE can use to detain people in the spending bill that was just signed... so they in fact are increasing the number of detention centers (or at least the beds used to detain illegal immigrants).

Those detention centers aren't run by local law enforcement, so they won't be rounding up them illegals for ICE.

That's great the numbers of detention centers increasing. Now if only ICE would do its job, and not rely on local law enforcement to do it for them. I'd prefer my local police work on violent crime and other more serious issues.

[Anonymous]

MS-13 loves sanctuary cities. Go for them!

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MS-13 loves sanctuary cities. Go for them!

ICE should go after MS13 rather than farm workers that R farmers rely on.

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MS-13 loves sanctuary cities. Go for them!

ICE should go after MS13 rather than farm workers that R farmers rely on.

Oh, shut-up. Because Dems don't own farms! Lol.

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MS-13 loves sanctuary cities. Go for them!

ICE should go after MS13 rather than farm workers that R farmers rely on.

PP doesn’t understand the difference, he’s a Fox News sheep.

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MS-13 loves sanctuary cities. Go for them!

ICE should go after MS13 rather than farm workers that R farmers rely on.

Oh, shut-up. Because Dems don't own farms! Lol.

Majority of farmers are R.

Chart: The most liberal and conservative jobs in America

Democrats or those leaning Democrat made up 19 percent of the 750 farmers and ranchers surveyed. About 70 percent identified as Republican or leaning Republican, and 12 percent as independent.

https://www.agri-pulse.com/articles/6513-new-poll-sheds-light-on-how-farmers-ranchers-will-vote-for-president

[Anonymous]

Ok, better to be a gardener than a farmer?
Okay!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We have an entire federal government agency dedicated to nothing but the enforcement of immigration law. Local police need to do their own job. They don’t have the time of resources to do immigration. How about ICE does its job and stop complaining?

Quite a few jurisdictions have the time and resources to do it. If they're not doing it it's because they don't want to.

Or maybe because they are aware of the federal appellate court rulings indicating that they are not supposed to do so.

And yet some jurisdictions still do it. Must not be an issue.

They can if they want to, but feds can't force states to. That's the point.

Well that is exactly what I said. If they're not doing it it's because they don't want to. I didn't say anything about forcing them to

They don't want to because they have more important things to do, like going after violent criminals, thieves, etc.. They don't regard undocumented immigrants who otherwise don't break local laws as a danger to society. If you really think going after an undocumented farm worker is more urgent than a child abuser, well, I guess that shows you where your priorities are. And before you say they can do both, no, they can't if they have limited resources. Many large cities have very little room in their local jails, and they don't have unlimited budget.

Here's a thought... why not spend some of that border funding to build more holding cells in the interior of the country, and hire more ICE agents to do sweeps. I'm sure the R farmers would appreciate ICE agents arresting their workers because they don't support illegal immigrants, right?

No one said anything of the sort. But if you stumble across men at Home Depot or 7-11, don't just turn a blind eye.

They absolutely can do both. As you said more detention centers can be built. Eventually they will get the message.

How does one know they have stumbled across an illegal immigrant at home depot or 7/11?

[Anonymous]

I live in a sanctuary city and hate it. Voted for Obama twice but couldn’t take it anymore and voted trump. I hope he gets his wall and don’t feel bad about families being separated. Don’t bring your family to the border if you want to stay together. Maybe that will deter people.

[Anonymous]

It's funny how Republicans love to say that they are against Big Government and favor "Limited Government" -- except when it comes to hunting and deporting illegals. Suddenly, all that "limited government" stuff goes right out the window.