Or maybe because they are aware of the federal appellate court rulings indicating that they are not supposed to do so. |
And yet some jurisdictions still do it. Must not be an issue. |
They can if they want to, but feds can't force states to. That's the point. |
Well that is exactly what I said. If they're not doing it it's because they don't want to. I didn't say anything about forcing them to |
It's not an issue because some jurisdictions are not yet getting their hands slapped? That's probably because those particular actions have not been challenged. Doesn't mean it isn't problematic, and that they won't be held accountable for that in the future. Legal consequences take time, and change is slow. Rulings are made, and appealed, and there are new rulings that set precedence. And some jurisdictions aren't going to want to change. Here is where the thinking is currently at for the federal appellate level (link is to Newsweek, but there are plenty of others): Police Who Help ICE Detain Undocumented Immigrants Could Be ‘Violating Fourth Amendment,’ Experts Say
These cases are going to continue to be contested until there is clear guidance issued. It may not happen under Trump, but it will be settled. The fact that everyone isn't on the same page at this moment doesn't mean it "must not be an issue." Actually, it's a looming one. |
They don't want to because they have more important things to do, like going after violent criminals, thieves, etc.. They don't regard undocumented immigrants who otherwise don't break local laws as a danger to society. If you really think going after an undocumented farm worker is more urgent than a child abuser, well, I guess that shows you where your priorities are. And before you say they can do both, no, they can't if they have limited resources. Many large cities have very little room in their local jails, and they don't have unlimited budget. Here's a thought... why not spend some of that border funding to build more holding cells in the interior of the country, and hire more ICE agents to do sweeps. I'm sure the R farmers would appreciate ICE agents arresting their workers because they don't support illegal immigrants, right? |
Would you really like all those people "swept"? How about both side come together to hammer out reasonable, seasonal guest worker programs (like you come solo and return. to home country once ayear, no criminal record and health testing). How about that? |
Give me a break. The ACLU is in every state. If they had a case they wouldve brought it by now in those jurisdictions who were participating. The state of Massachusetts decided on their own. Texas went the other direction as they just passed a law that banned sanctuary city policies and it was upheld. |
Most illegal immigrants are not seasonal workers. What do you do with the majority? |
No one said anything of the sort. But if you stumble across men at Home Depot or 7-11, don't just turn a blind eye. They absolutely can do both. As you said more detention centers can be built. Eventually they will get the message. |
I'm not clear how you sorted through which cases have and have not been filed, and those which are (or are not) being prepared. Could you talk me through the process? |
The ACLU does press releases everytime they sneeze. No lawsuits on this have been announced but if you know of one feel free to post it. As I mentioned Texas anti- sanctuary city law was upheld. |
Didn't the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals just a month or two ago rule that AG Paxton’s case to pre-emptively establish the constitutionality of the Governor's bill was “unconvincing,” leaving the door open for officials in Austin, San Antonio, and other sites to sue the state and try it on its merits in court? Which they later did, with those cases in progress, no? |
Ah. So what number of filings would you consider to be "an issue?" I can add the ones that are pending in Texas, if you like. |
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