Wootton or Churchill or RM

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"There are no kids in those hundreds of townhouses, condos and apartments. Let us build more. Our goal is to copy Gaithersburg and quickly make RM another Gaithersburg HS."

- Views of chamber of commerce, developers and city leaders.

Nobody has ever said that there are zero kids.

But your dog whistle is audible even to my human ears. "Another Gaithersburg HS" indeed.

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I don't think the PP is 'spreading falsehoods' as you say.

Rockville City wants to allow additional overdevelopment, on top of the dozens of projects that are already in the pipeline. Without any plans for schooling.

And, as for the bolded - What?? How can you say that building won't affect RM? Of course building additional residential units will lead to additional students attending an already overcrowded school.

The high school at Crown is a plan, no?

Also, how many projects, specifically, are already in the pipeline for the Richard Montgomery area in the City of Rockville? I seriously doubt that it's "dozens" (24+), but maybe I'm wrong.

It's just talk till finds for planning are allocated.

You are shifting the goal posts.

There's no plan.
There actually is a plan.
Well, it's not a plan plan!

Well, according to you Crown planning started 10 years back, right? Because there was plan.

Saying that there is plan doesn't make it a plan. There is couple of millions dollar needed to put in CIP to start actual plan. Till that happens, we are talking about a hypothetical plan.

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OP - I have no dog in this fight. But it's clear from this thread that you should avoid RM.

I am from QO and I would have suggested that, but you didn't list it. I will suggest Churchill over Wootton.

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Anonymous wrote:Hello all, looking for insight on these schools. We are looking for a SFH just off Falls Road and have found houses we like in all three high school zones. We are not familiar with these schools(currently live in HoCo). I know people will say HoCo schools are better and to just not move but we are 100% moving to this part of MoCo and open to other neighborhoods and schools nearby but these neighborhoods and schools are our focus for right now. What are the main differences between them? Churchill seems like the most well-known in the area and ranked the best, but that is not only what we care about. Looking for good schools K-12 with a well-rounded but academically competitive student body. Which school would you choose for your family and why? Thanks!!!

No schools in HoCo are better than three mentioned schools. Period

River Hill sure is. No magnet or inflated scores/grades needed to curve it better either. They don’t have the diversity and apeshit tiger parents, so it won’t be on every crazy list, but it is an incredible healthy environment to learn.

In what world is River Hill better than Churchill? Or even Wootton? They are non -magnet school. Maybe in DCUM delusional world but not in the real world.
Sure there is no inflated scores /grades if you believe in unicorns.

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Great schools has rating of 7 and MD report card ranked RM at 56 percentile. That's despite magnet being housed in RM.

Go for Wootton. A much better option and no over crowding.

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Anonymous wrote:RM is very over crowded and City of Rockville is debating to put 3300 students school built for 2200 students.

RM shouldn't be compared with other two schools due to being so over crowded.

Not really. The discussion is whether it's ok to approve development plans that might, hypothetically, some day, result in 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students, if nothing else happens before then, even though something will.

Do you go to the school? It is already overcrowded. The portables in the middle of the parking lot? Projections going up each year. It is a disaster.

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Anonymous wrote:The teachers and curriculum for the aforementioned high-schools are about the same. Although minor demographic differences that affect overall school averages, it makes no difference for an individual which MCPS school they attend.

Everyone who has ever given this matter any thought is aware of this. The OP is curious about the demographic and social differences because any MCPS school can provide a rigorous education and competitive cohort.

You don't think it matters whether there are 3 sections of AP English or 7 sections?

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Anonymous wrote:Dear OP,

Wootton = Centennial HS
Churchill = River Hill HS
RM = very unstable, a Catonsville HS with a school-within-a-school countywide IB magnet program undergoing many changes. May end up being a great investment, but not certain.

I was confused by this at first. But then I realized that you're not referring to the school, but rather to real estate.

I was referring to the schools. RM may undergo many changes as the county changes the magnet definition, scope, eligibility, and openness to neighborhood students. It is a GS7 HS with the magnet included, so around GS 5-6 without. Some magnet classes are open to all students; I think it influences and changes the overall upperclassman dynamic. Plus, the northern of RM is expected to be cut away into Crown. The BOE keeps playing with the idea of relaxing the overcrowding restrictions in order to build up / gentrify Twinbrook. Basically in 5-10 years you can expect a very different school, could be better, could be worse. Unstable.

Wootton will be rezoned soon with QO and Gaithersburg HS.

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Anonymous wrote:RM is very over crowded and City of Rockville is debating to put 3300 students school built for 2200 students.

RM shouldn't be compared with other two schools due to being so over crowded.

Not really. The discussion is whether it's ok to approve development plans that might, hypothetically, some day, result in 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students, if nothing else happens before then, even though something will.

Actually, most of the development will affect WJ HS, not RM.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/rockville-deadlocked-over-proposed-changes-to-school-capacity-cap/

There's a ton of pushback from the community and some council members. I'm hopeful this won't go through.

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Anonymous wrote:RM is very over crowded and City of Rockville is debating to put 3300 students school built for 2200 students.

RM shouldn't be compared with other two schools due to being so over crowded.

Not really. The discussion is whether it's ok to approve development plans that might, hypothetically, some day, result in 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students, if nothing else happens before then, even though something will.

There is nothing hypothetical about City proposal to raise the limit to 150% of school capacity. That's as real as it gets.

Correct. The proposal to raise the limit is real. However, the probability that actual enrollment would ever reach the limit is very low. And the statement that the City of Rockville is debating to put 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students is false.

How can you say that?

In addition to the Rockville Town Center development, there has been a huge upsurge in development near Twinbrook. Hundreds of townhouses, condos and apartments near the Metro. Over the past five years, there has been a huge push for development. Where do you expect those kids to go to school?

The TB development will affect Walter Johnson HS, not RM.

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Anonymous wrote:Great schools has rating of 7 and MD report card ranked RM at 56 percentile. That's despite magnet being housed in RM.

Go for Wootton. A much better option and no over crowding.

Wootton is falling apart. There's that.

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Wootton is a rough place. Pressure cooker would be kind. But go ahead if you want your kid to have 5 ulcers by sophomore year.

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Anonymous wrote:RM is very over crowded and City of Rockville is debating to put 3300 students school built for 2200 students.

RM shouldn't be compared with other two schools due to being so over crowded.

Not really. The discussion is whether it's ok to approve development plans that might, hypothetically, some day, result in 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students, if nothing else happens before then, even though something will.

There is nothing hypothetical about City proposal to raise the limit to 150% of school capacity. That's as real as it gets.

Correct. The proposal to raise the limit is real. However, the probability that actual enrollment would ever reach the limit is very low. And the statement that the City of Rockville is debating to put 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students is false.

How can you say that?

In addition to the Rockville Town Center development, there has been a huge upsurge in development near Twinbrook. Hundreds of townhouses, condos and apartments near the Metro. Over the past five years, there has been a huge push for development. Where do you expect those kids to go to school?

The TB development will affect Walter Johnson HS, not RM.

200+ students over entire project development period will attend RM. That's projection says which are vastly underestimating students living in Condos/apartments. In reality, we may add 400+ RM cluster students due to TB. They won't come all in the next 5 years, but over 25 years. This project has impact on RM cluster.

TB should be shifted to some other cluster and then continue building.

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Anonymous wrote:RM is very over crowded and City of Rockville is debating to put 3300 students school built for 2200 students.

RM shouldn't be compared with other two schools due to being so over crowded.

Not really. The discussion is whether it's ok to approve development plans that might, hypothetically, some day, result in 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students, if nothing else happens before then, even though something will.

There is nothing hypothetical about City proposal to raise the limit to 150% of school capacity. That's as real as it gets.

Correct. The proposal to raise the limit is real. However, the probability that actual enrollment would ever reach the limit is very low. And the statement that the City of Rockville is debating to put 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students is false.

How can you say that?

In addition to the Rockville Town Center development, there has been a huge upsurge in development near Twinbrook. Hundreds of townhouses, condos and apartments near the Metro. Over the past five years, there has been a huge push for development. Where do you expect those kids to go to school?

The TB development will affect Walter Johnson HS, not RM.

200+ students over entire project development period will attend RM. That's projection says which are vastly underestimating students living in Condos/apartments. In reality, we may add 400+ RM cluster students due to TB. They won't come all in the next 5 years, but over 25 years. This project has impact on RM cluster.

TB should be shifted to some other cluster and then continue building.

I didn't say the project doesn't have *any* impact on RM. I stated that most of the impact will be on WJHS.

Also, in 25 years Crown HS will be built.

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Anonymous wrote:RM is very over crowded and City of Rockville is debating to put 3300 students school built for 2200 students.

RM shouldn't be compared with other two schools due to being so over crowded.

Not really. The discussion is whether it's ok to approve development plans that might, hypothetically, some day, result in 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students, if nothing else happens before then, even though something will.

There is nothing hypothetical about City proposal to raise the limit to 150% of school capacity. That's as real as it gets.

Correct. The proposal to raise the limit is real. However, the probability that actual enrollment would ever reach the limit is very low. And the statement that the City of Rockville is debating to put 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students is false.

How can you say that?

In addition to the Rockville Town Center development, there has been a huge upsurge in development near Twinbrook. Hundreds of townhouses, condos and apartments near the Metro. Over the past five years, there has been a huge push for development. Where do you expect those kids to go to school?

The TB development will affect Walter Johnson HS, not RM.

200+ students over entire project development period will attend RM. That's projection says which are vastly underestimating students living in Condos/apartments. In reality, we may add 400+ RM cluster students due to TB. They won't come all in the next 5 years, but over 25 years. This project has impact on RM cluster.

TB should be shifted to some other cluster and then continue building.

I didn't say the project doesn't have *any* impact on RM. I stated that most of the impact will be on WJHS.

Also, in 25 years Crown HS will be built.

Yes, in 25 years Crown should be built, but we are talking about problem right now. If RM is already at 120% then moratorium kicks in in and it kicks in for a very good reason. Giving waiver or exemptions to make over crowding worse is not a way to go. Proper response would to allow infrastructure to catch up.

I have no sympathy for developers here. It's not as if they were not aware of moratorium situation. They didn't come in blind here.