Wootton or Churchill or RM

[Anonymous]

Debating about 150% is not even needed. OP, RM will be in range of 120-135% in near future. You are better off with other schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:RM is very over crowded and City of Rockville is debating to put 3300 students school built for 2200 students.

RM shouldn't be compared with other two schools due to being so over crowded.

Not really. The discussion is whether it's ok to approve development plans that might, hypothetically, some day, result in 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students, if nothing else happens before then, even though something will.

There is nothing hypothetical about City proposal to raise the limit to 150% of school capacity. That's as real as it gets.

Correct. The proposal to raise the limit is real. However, the probability that actual enrollment would ever reach the limit is very low. And the statement that the City of Rockville is debating to put 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students is false.

There is actual resolution on table to allow building more housing till school reaches 150%. 70 odd parents participated in testimony over this. Mayor and council are going to vote on this.

What is false here?

No, there is not an actual resolution on the table to allow building more housing till the school reaches 150%.

There is an actual resolution on the table to continue accepting development applications for residential development until the projected student enrollment that would be generated by actually building that development causes the projected future student enrollment at RM to exceed 150%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:RM is very over crowded and City of Rockville is debating to put 3300 students school built for 2200 students.

RM shouldn't be compared with other two schools due to being so over crowded.

Please don’t spread falsehoods. Technically, the city IS discussing allowing up to 3300 students in the school built for 2200; however, no reasonable projections have the school reaching 3300 in 10 years—even with additional development, which takes time to build and populate. Would it eventually get there, sure, it probably would, but the city isn’t likely to pass the vote in a couple days to permit that. It’s more likely that if anything passes, it would be the targeted raising of the limits to permit construction in the Walter Johnson cluster. Less likely is the waiver to allow building downtown that will affect RM.

If you have a child that will be at RM between now and 10 years from now, expect school utilization at 120% now to 135% by the end of the 10 years. Building Crown High School will also result in major boundary changes. We can’t accurately predict which neighborhoods will go to which schools yet.

Crown is not funded. Crown is in the pipeline for after Northwood and Woodward. There is no reason to think Crown will be built/available in 10 years. WJ is also predicted to be over 120% capacity in the next 10 years, so thanks to City of Rockville to “just” allow development in a small section of their City that goes to a different overcrowded HS that is also slated for moratorium, not to mention an ES that is already substantially overcrowded.

More MoCo jurisdictions approving residential development and foisting overcrowding problems on the BOE without the money to build two new HSs and a seventh elementary in the WJ cluster is not what we need right now.

[Anonymous]

Rockville used to have building moratorium at 110% few years ago.

City leaders changed it to 120%.

Now they are debating it to change to 150%.

It may or may not be 150%, but you can see where RM cluster is headed. City leaders may allow exemptions or waivers to keep building despite school being at 120%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RM is very over crowded and City of Rockville is debating to put 3300 students school built for 2200 students.

RM shouldn't be compared with other two schools due to being so over crowded.

Please don’t spread falsehoods. Technically, the city IS discussing allowing up to 3300 students in the school built for 2200; however, no reasonable projections have the school reaching 3300 in 10 years—even with additional development, which takes time to build and populate. Would it eventually get there, sure, it probably would, but the city isn’t likely to pass the vote in a couple days to permit that. It’s more likely that if anything passes, it would be the targeted raising of the limits to permit construction in the Walter Johnson cluster. Less likely is the waiver to allow building downtown that will affect RM.

If you have a child that will be at RM between now and 10 years from now, expect school utilization at 120% now to 135% by the end of the 10 years. Building Crown High School will also result in major boundary changes. We can’t accurately predict which neighborhoods will go to which schools yet.

DP

I don't think the PP is 'spreading falsehoods' as you say.

Rockville City wants to allow additional overdevelopment, on top of the dozens of projects that are already in the pipeline. Without any plans for schooling.

And, as for the bolded - What?? How can you say that building won't affect RM? Of course building additional residential units will lead to additional students attending an already overcrowded school.

[Anonymous]

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Crown is not funded. Crown is in the pipeline for after Northwood and Woodward. There is no reason to think Crown will be built/available in 10 years. WJ is also predicted to be over 120% capacity in the next 10 years, so thanks to City of Rockville to “just” allow development in a small section of their City that goes to a different overcrowded HS that is also slated for moratorium, not to mention an ES that is already substantially overcrowded.

More MoCo jurisdictions approving residential development and foisting overcrowding problems on the BOE without the money to build two new HSs and a seventh elementary in the WJ cluster is not what we need right now.

You (or somebody) keep saying that. But repetition doesn't make it more true. In the CIP, MCPS expects planning for the high school at Crown to begin in the next fiscal year, which starts in 5 months.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RM is very over crowded and City of Rockville is debating to put 3300 students school built for 2200 students.

RM shouldn't be compared with other two schools due to being so over crowded.

Not really. The discussion is whether it's ok to approve development plans that might, hypothetically, some day, result in 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students, if nothing else happens before then, even though something will.

There is nothing hypothetical about City proposal to raise the limit to 150% of school capacity. That's as real as it gets.

Correct. The proposal to raise the limit is real. However, the probability that actual enrollment would ever reach the limit is very low. And the statement that the City of Rockville is debating to put 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students is false.

There is actual resolution on table to allow building more housing till school reaches 150%. 70 odd parents participated in testimony over this. Mayor and council are going to vote on this.

What is false here?

No, there is not an actual resolution on the table to allow building more housing till the school reaches 150%.

There is an actual resolution on the table to continue accepting development applications for residential development until the projected student enrollment that would be generated by actually building that development causes the projected future student enrollment at RM to exceed 150%.

LOL, as if you are saying anything different than previous poster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RM is very over crowded and City of Rockville is debating to put 3300 students school built for 2200 students.

RM shouldn't be compared with other two schools due to being so over crowded.

Not really. The discussion is whether it's ok to approve development plans that might, hypothetically, some day, result in 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students, if nothing else happens before then, even though something will.

There is nothing hypothetical about City proposal to raise the limit to 150% of school capacity. That's as real as it gets.

Correct. The proposal to raise the limit is real. However, the probability that actual enrollment would ever reach the limit is very low. And the statement that the City of Rockville is debating to put 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students is false.

How can you say that?

In addition to the Rockville Town Center development, there has been a huge upsurge in development near Twinbrook. Hundreds of townhouses, condos and apartments near the Metro. Over the past five years, there has been a huge push for development. Where do you expect those kids to go to school?

[Anonymous]

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DP

I don't think the PP is 'spreading falsehoods' as you say.

Rockville City wants to allow additional overdevelopment, on top of the dozens of projects that are already in the pipeline. Without any plans for schooling.

And, as for the bolded - What?? How can you say that building won't affect RM? Of course building additional residential units will lead to additional students attending an already overcrowded school.

The high school at Crown is a plan, no?

Also, how many projects, specifically, are already in the pipeline for the Richard Montgomery area in the City of Rockville? I seriously doubt that it's "dozens" (24+), but maybe I'm wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Crown is not funded. Crown is in the pipeline for after Northwood and Woodward. There is no reason to think Crown will be built/available in 10 years. WJ is also predicted to be over 120% capacity in the next 10 years, so thanks to City of Rockville to “just” allow development in a small section of their City that goes to a different overcrowded HS that is also slated for moratorium, not to mention an ES that is already substantially overcrowded.

More MoCo jurisdictions approving residential development and foisting overcrowding problems on the BOE without the money to build two new HSs and a seventh elementary in the WJ cluster is not what we need right now.

You (or somebody) keep saying that. But repetition doesn't make it more true. In the CIP, MCPS expects planning for the high school at Crown to begin in the next fiscal year, which starts in 5 months.

May you are new this. Check how long it takes to build a HS after fund is allocated for HS in CIP.

Here were are talking about funds not even in CIP.

PP is absolutely right about 10 years time line here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RM is very over crowded and City of Rockville is debating to put 3300 students school built for 2200 students.

RM shouldn't be compared with other two schools due to being so over crowded.

Not really. The discussion is whether it's ok to approve development plans that might, hypothetically, some day, result in 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students, if nothing else happens before then, even though something will.

There is nothing hypothetical about City proposal to raise the limit to 150% of school capacity. That's as real as it gets.

Correct. The proposal to raise the limit is real. However, the probability that actual enrollment would ever reach the limit is very low. And the statement that the City of Rockville is debating to put 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students is false.

How can you say that?

In addition to the Rockville Town Center development, there has been a huge upsurge in development near Twinbrook. Hundreds of townhouses, condos and apartments near the Metro. Over the past five years, there has been a huge push for development. Where do you expect those kids to go to school?

DP. Because

1. Crown HS, and
2. Most of those units do not have students living in them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DP

I don't think the PP is 'spreading falsehoods' as you say.

Rockville City wants to allow additional overdevelopment, on top of the dozens of projects that are already in the pipeline. Without any plans for schooling.

And, as for the bolded - What?? How can you say that building won't affect RM? Of course building additional residential units will lead to additional students attending an already overcrowded school.

The high school at Crown is a plan, no?

Also, how many projects, specifically, are already in the pipeline for the Richard Montgomery area in the City of Rockville? I seriously doubt that it's "dozens" (24+), but maybe I'm wrong.

It's just talk till finds for planning are allocated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

May you are new this. Check how long it takes to build a HS after fund is allocated for HS in CIP.

Here were are talking about funds not even in CIP.

PP is absolutely right about 10 years time line here.

Nope. Not new. Clarksburg HS opened in 2006. Are you saying that it first appeared in the CIP before 1996?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

DP

I don't think the PP is 'spreading falsehoods' as you say.

Rockville City wants to allow additional overdevelopment, on top of the dozens of projects that are already in the pipeline. Without any plans for schooling.

And, as for the bolded - What?? How can you say that building won't affect RM? Of course building additional residential units will lead to additional students attending an already overcrowded school.

The high school at Crown is a plan, no?

Also, how many projects, specifically, are already in the pipeline for the Richard Montgomery area in the City of Rockville? I seriously doubt that it's "dozens" (24+), but maybe I'm wrong.

It's just talk till finds for planning are allocated.

You are shifting the goal posts.

There's no plan.
There actually is a plan.
Well, it's not a plan plan!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RM is very over crowded and City of Rockville is debating to put 3300 students school built for 2200 students.

RM shouldn't be compared with other two schools due to being so over crowded.

Not really. The discussion is whether it's ok to approve development plans that might, hypothetically, some day, result in 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students, if nothing else happens before then, even though something will.

There is nothing hypothetical about City proposal to raise the limit to 150% of school capacity. That's as real as it gets.

Correct. The proposal to raise the limit is real. However, the probability that actual enrollment would ever reach the limit is very low. And the statement that the City of Rockville is debating to put 3,300 students in a school built for 2,200 students is false.

How can you say that?

In addition to the Rockville Town Center development, there has been a huge upsurge in development near Twinbrook. Hundreds of townhouses, condos and apartments near the Metro. Over the past five years, there has been a huge push for development. Where do you expect those kids to go to school?

"There are no kids in those hundreds of townhouses, condos and apartments. Let us build more. Our goal is to copy Gaithersburg and quickly make RM another Gaithersburg HS."

- Views of chamber of commerce, developers and city leaders.