Um no. Michigan is a tier above. |
Good lord
DCUM did not coin the phrase “public Ivy” (I think US News did but it is a commonly known/used term in any case). -pp who has zero connection to any “public Ivy” & therefore no reason to try to “burnish” their image. |
You don’t have to coin a phrase for its use to be silly. Nor does it have to maintain whatever meaning it once had, if ever. I’m sure the kids at the University of Vermont don’t use this term because it’s dreadfully wannabe. (And I happen to love UVM.) |
That phrase was coined by a former admission dean who wrote a book in the 1980s. He thought people were wasting money on private options when there are a lot of good public options. I think original list was something like: University of California System, Michigan, Texas, UVA, W&M, UNC, Miami of Ohio, and Vermont. |
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Original Public Ivies from 1985 Book
College of William & Mary (Williamsburg, Virginia) Miami University (Oxford, Ohio) University of California (nine campuses as of 1985) University of Michigan (Ann Arbor) University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill University of Texas at Austin University of Vermont (Burlington) University of Virginia (Charlottesville) Worthy runners-up University of Colorado Boulder Georgia Institute of Technology (Atlanta) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign New College of the University of South Florida (Sarasota; now New College of Florida) Pennsylvania State University at University Park University of Pittsburgh State University of New York at Binghamton (now branded as Binghamton University) University of Washington (Seattle) University of Wisconsin–Madison |
yes Yes, I would agree with you. In terms of difficulty to get in, I would rank them as: GU ND BC Villanova |
| I think ND has been more difficult than GT to get in to for several years now. |
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Last Year
Georgetown Applications 22,897 Admitted 3,327 Percent 14.5% Notre Dame Applications 20,371 Admitted 3,600 Percent 17.7% https://news.nd.edu/news/class-of-2022-intellectually-and-globally-diverse-dedicated-to-service-and-leadership/ http://www.thehoya.com/georgetown-sees-record-low-acceptance-rate-class-2022/ |
And? If you are using acceptance rates to demonstrate selectivity, then you don’t know much about college admissions. |
Why are you so angry about something as benign as people using this phrase? Do you think it somehow makes your “real” Ivy degree less special? |
+1 Acceptance rates don’t take into consider the merits/stats of the students applying/being admitted or rejected. |
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I think of UVA and UNC as closest. Agree. Both are southern public Ivies with beautiful campuses & lovely college towns. Please stop with this public Ivy nonsense. They are good public universities and that should be enough. It is pathetic and embarrassing to try and further burnish their image with a silly reference to the Ivy league. +1000000000 |
ACT 25-75 GU 30-34 ND 33-35 |
I think they are a pretty fair proxy when the applicant pool is so very similar as one would expect here. BUt I don't think the percentage difference is material here. |
Is it though? |