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I went to William and Mary and I'm not sure it has a cluster. It's medium-sized, a pressure cooker academically, limited athletics, historic campus, community service-oriented and public. Not many of those.
Princeton was probably the closest of the schools I applied to, but I didn't get in. Obviously in a different league. |
| Tulane, Michigan, GWU |
I can't really think of schools like William & Mary. It is a unique public in size and residential and undergraduate focus. It probably has a pretty big application overlap with UVA, but they mostly attract different types. Some privates like Wake, Tufts, and Rochester may share some characteristics, but they are clearly different. Perhaps Brown among Ivies, but it is known for easy grading and no distribution requirements, unlike W&M. I used to think of it as a "poor man's" Princeton (not in a disrespectful way). |
| UVA and UNC. |
I think of UVA and UNC as closest. |
Georgetown & ND are also much harder to get into than Villanova & somewhat harder to get into than BC. |
Agree. Both are southern public Ivies with beautiful campuses & lovely college towns. |
| W & L, Davidson, Wake Forest |
| Indiana, Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Michigan State |
In terms of how competitive admissions are, Colby does not belong with the group you placed it with. It is much harder to get into than either St Lawrence or Whitman. I’d say Colby, Bates, Hamilton. All are northeastern SLACs that attract studious kids & are very hard to get into but not quite super competitive/top 10 SLACs. |
^And all attract fairly conservative & studious/academically serious kids (as far as I know but my information on such matters may be a bit dated). |
| NYU, GWU, BU |
Those 3 have little in common, unless you are making a Jewish reference. |
Please stop with this public Ivy nonsense. They are good public universities and that should be enough. It is pathetic and embarrassing to try and further burnish their image with a silly reference to the Ivy league. |
NP. Hmmm. Maybe the schools themselves are not similar but over the years I’ve noticed that the kinds of kids who attend these schools (or are interested in attending) are similar. Add USC, U of Miami, and Syracuse to that list as well. Some are Jewish, some are not. |