Loudoun Struggles in ECNL

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Anonymous wrote:If current FCV 07 team isn’t very good, I imagine FCV 07 DA next year will draw heavily from other teams including Loudoun.

If history is any guide next year FCV team will be good and Loudoun team will be not so good.

That’s not how it works.

That's how it worked for the 05s. And Loudoun's 05s were a hell of a lot better than their 07s.

You do know that you are talking to Loudoun 07 parents right? You are trying to tell us what we are going to do. LOL!

Oh, yes, because you will all be making a singular decision collectively!

If parents and players are developing well, feel they can be successful and feel that they will be appropriately challenged and get college exposure exactly what does FCV have to offer? Serious question.

Several of FCV players had youth national teams call ups. Who would impress college coaches more (1) a girl from ECNL team or (2) a girl who was on a youth national team? This might not affect an average player, but it is a draw for very top players.

FCVs new marketing strategy! LOL DCUM Trolling forums for players, what joke. GTF outta here you tool.

These girls earned these call ups. Don't be so jealous!

Not as jealous as you are desperate to be trolling forums trying to recruit players coach

Coach? Don't be so paranoid. National team call ups are earned. But you wouldn't know that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You are right. ECNL at Loudoun mean nothing to us. Tell FCV to rent all of Evergreen for the DA ID Sessions. We are all coming. You are used to crowded conditions there, rent the whole place. Get 80 extra cupcakes too.

We would all love to come play for a club that has never beaten any of our 07 teams at any level of play.

FCV 07 beat McLean 3-0
McLean beat Loudoun Red 1-0

These 10-0 games you speak of were literally 2 and 3 years ago. Lol!

If FCV team beat McLean by a significant margin now, they will be even stronger next year, when DA starts attracting players from other clubs.

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Anonymous wrote:But the FCV 07 team is not very good. It’s a step down for Loudoun and McLean players. Most players and parents do not want to step down, leave friends, etc. Loudoun has a great reputation, better facilities, better coaches, the ECNL national exposure. Not hard to understand

No McLean 07 is considering FCV ,, all crazy talk ECNL will win this group. Maybe some 2nd tier players go Spirit or ARL, but this FCV stuff is nonsense.

Lucky win too

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FCV parents made these claims last year too and nobody showed up to U12 tryouts. Same will happen in Jan for DA. The Loudoun parents talk and FCV is just not considered that appealing for 07s. You will get a couple to show and that’s it.

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My guess is the ECNL teams will probably align their ID dates with FCV to have players choose before this even starts. That will really hurt FCV. How many Loudoun Red players will skip their ID sessions for a chance at FCV? Zero.

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Anonymous wrote:If current FCV 07 team isn’t very good, I imagine FCV 07 DA next year will draw heavily from other teams including Loudoun.

If history is any guide next year FCV team will be good and Loudoun team will be not so good.

That’s not how it works.

That's how it worked for the 05s. And Loudoun's 05s were a hell of a lot better than their 07s.

You do know that you are talking to Loudoun 07 parents right? You are trying to tell us what we are going to do. LOL!

Oh, yes, because you will all be making a singular decision collectively!

If parents and players are developing well, feel they can be successful and feel that they will be appropriately challenged and get college exposure exactly what does FCV have to offer? Serious question.

Several of FCV players had youth national teams call ups. Who would impress college coaches more (1) a girl from ECNL team or (2) a girl who was on a youth national team? This might not affect an average player, but it is a draw for very top players.

FCVs new marketing strategy! LOL DCUM Trolling forums for players, what joke. GTF outta here you tool.

These girls earned these call ups. Don't be so jealous!

Not as jealous as you are desperate to be trolling forums trying to recruit players coach

Coach? Don't be so paranoid. National team call ups are earned. But you wouldn't know that.

National Team callous are recruited at FCV not developed, but you wouldn’t know that either.

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FCV always wanes nostalgic for the NT callups who came to FCV back when the club was the only option for top players.

The market has changed this past year and now top players have many options just miles down Route 7 in either direction. Now FCV has to compete based on team strength, facilities, development and other factors. Uh oh.

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Anonymous wrote:FCV parents made these claims last year too and nobody showed up to U12 tryouts. Same will happen in Jan for DA. The Loudoun parents talk and FCV is just not considered that appealing for 07s. You will get a couple to show and that’s it.

^^ this makes sense -07s is going to be different with so many of the players DA wants to pick up packed in two ecnl spots
- with FCV and arlington next door and weaker, word will travel fast once you see their top players show at early ecnl IDs to at least check it out
-WS better start handing out offers at Xmas to GFR girls to lock them up

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If WS locks up GFR girls early. FCV is in real trouble. They can't beat GFR now. GFR beat them 3-0 last fall.

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I don't have a kid in Loudoun and never have, so this is just an objective comment. Loudoun is new to the ECNL. VDA came from the DA, so they have some experience with the difference in leave of the league. Loudoun players do not. It's a faster pace of play with a higher level of competition.

My point is that it is way too early to make a judgment on how Loudoun is faring. I would extend that courtesy to any club that is in a new level. I would also give it to Arlington as they are new to the DA.

The DA and ECNL (though not interchangeable) are leagues that play at a much faster, higher level than the next level league down.

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Anonymous wrote:If WS locks up GFR girls early. FCV is in real trouble. They can't beat GFR now. GFR beat them 3-0 last fall.

WAGS 07 Girls: 5 flights

Loudoun: Top flight
Great Falls Reston: 2nd flight
Arlington Soccer: 3rd flight

Appears that WAGS got it exactly right, but where are McLean and FCV playing?

McLean obviously would have been Top flight, but FCV 3rd (or 4th) flight maybe? Any thoughts?

Will be interesting to see how these 3 teams fare this weekend given their rankings and the discussion here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't have a kid in Loudoun and never have, so this is just an objective comment. Loudoun is new to the ECNL. VDA came from the DA, so they have some experience with the difference in leave of the league. Loudoun players do not. It's a faster pace of play with a higher level of competition.

My point is that it is way too early to make a judgment on how Loudoun is faring. I would extend that courtesy to any club that is in a new level. I would also give it to Arlington as they are new to the DA.

The DA and ECNL (though not interchangeable) are leagues that play at a much faster, higher level than the next level league down.

This is a valid point that may explain some of their struggles, but it is also valid to observe the fact that Loudoun teams struggle in ECNL. As for the courtesy angle, there were multiple posts in girls DA thread on these boards that VDA will really struggle and is the worst ECNL program in the area, but Loudoun would be doing amazing because they are really strong. Also, some Loudoun advocates (don't know if parents or disgruntled coaches) were trashing Washington Spirit and claiming that Loudoun players that left for Spirit will regret their decision.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have a kid in Loudoun and never have, so this is just an objective comment. Loudoun is new to the ECNL. VDA came from the DA, so they have some experience with the difference in leave of the league. Loudoun players do not. It's a faster pace of play with a higher level of competition.

My point is that it is way too early to make a judgment on how Loudoun is faring. I would extend that courtesy to any club that is in a new level. I would also give it to Arlington as they are new to the DA.

The DA and ECNL (though not interchangeable) are leagues that play at a much faster, higher level than the next level league down.

Except Loudoun has had success against future DA and/or ECNL teams in past tournaments. At older ages Loudoun always suffered from a talent drain because they lacked a pathway beyond ODP and occasional National League appearances. I think they will retain players and their players have always done well when they moved to ECNL clubs in the past.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is the ECNL teams will probably align their ID dates with FCV to have players choose before this even starts. That will really hurt FCV. How many Loudoun Red players will skip their ID sessions for a chance at FCV? Zero.

Why do they need to go to the ID sessions if they already play for the club and the coaches already know them? If they are top players, they should just get offers without any ID sessions.

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is the ECNL teams will probably align their ID dates with FCV to have players choose before this even starts. That will really hurt FCV. How many Loudoun Red players will skip their ID sessions for a chance at FCV? Zero.

Why do they need to go to the ID sessions if they already play for the club and the coaches already know them? If they are top players, they should just get offers without any ID sessions.

Because soccer is a two-way street. Players show interest in a program for the following year by coming to ID sessions.