Kavanaugh vote postponed. Judiciary Committee hearing on Sexual Assault complain Monday.

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Anonymous wrote:This means the republicans are very confident about Kavanaugh't denial.

They may know the woman is lying.

Or that the public pressure/GOP-Dem pressure behind closed doors is more than it seems.

Or that they don't give a shit and know that no matter what comes out in any hearing, Kavanaugh will be confirmed.

I don't think that's right. If that was the case they would have pushed through the vote. This took them by surprise. I think some combination of Sasse, Corker, Flake, Murkowski and Collins threatened defection without a hearing and all red state Democrats said no yes without a hearing.

They're counting on her not being credible because this is really stupid if they have any intention of confirming K. A public testimony of this assault will only make it more difficult to confirm him. Watching a woman publicly verbally describe an assault will be worse than reading it.

I think they picked Monday because they think that's enough time to dig up dirt but honestly the Republicans are stupid. If they wanted to seal this up before midterms they should have either forced a vote this week or cut K loose and go for another nominee.

Republicans CAN’T cut K loose. Trump nominated him. Only Trump can pull the nomination. And TRump always, always, always, always fights back no matter what. They have to vote him down (pissed Trump base) or vote him forward (pissed women). It is lose-lose. Mitch McTurtle didn’t want K to begin with. Right now, he would do anything in his power to make him go away.

I think that there are quite a few R Senators who hope more women come forward and this nomination becomes untenable. Because they are cowards and don’t want to have to vote.

PP, you do not even have the most basic idea how government works. No one can make Trump withdraw Kavanaugh, but no one can make the Senate give him a vote.

McConnell wants, more than anything, to keep the Senate in Republican hands. If he senses that confirming Kavanaugh in the face of these allegations will turn off voters, he will simply not schedule a vote.

Without a vote, Kavanaugh would withdraw himself in order to regain some semblance of normal life.

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Anonymous wrote:They picked Monday because they don’t want to leave time for any more info to come out, or for more accusers to come forward. They want to make it a simple he-said-she-said situation, and then just jam the nomination through.

We should have higher standards for a Supreme Court Justice. Can’t they find someone who *hasn’t* tried to rape a fifteen year old girl?

A week is an eternity in Trump time.

I’m a former (female) federal law clerk, and my grapevine says there are female law clerks out there. Wow, would it be tough to come forward though. Your career would be over.

Yeah, not believing you either, anonymous poster.

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Anonymous wrote:Good for the hearing and airing this matter. I expect the woman thinks she is right but is in fact confused on the details of the incident including the people involved.

The GOP: when you just can’t help but vilify women.

At least dems are equal opportunity vilifiers - men, women, doesn't matter. If you're not a liberal, be prepared to be taken down.

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McTurtle has totally lost control of the process and there are no good options for them. Love it!

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Anonymous wrote:And here is the other shoe https://theintercept.com/2018/09/17/cyrus-sanai-federal-court-employees-attempted-to-come-forward-to-chuck-grassley-and-dianne-feinstein-neither-responded

Former female federal law clerk here. Color me shocked (not). My Court had a married Judge who was caught having sex with a female law clerk in the locker room of the Courthouse. She left mid-term. Not a da*mn thing happened to him. It’s a lifetime appointment. And there have only been a couple of Judges impeached, ever. Fact is, once confirmed they can do anything and not lose their job. They harass a female law clerk. She complains. She loses her job. He is untouchable.

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Anonymous wrote:Good for the hearing and airing this matter. I expect the woman thinks she is right but is in fact confused on the details of the incident including the people involved.

The GOP: when you just can’t help but vilify women.

NP. How are these accusations fair to Judge Kavanaugh’s wife and daughters?

What is fair or unfair? He chose to accept a nomination knowing that this allegation was going to surface. Rumors are, there are others. Maybe his wife will be able to teach a lesson to the daughters, whom he used a props at his hearing. THAT was gross at the time and even worse in retrospect.

Um, how is it "gross" to bring your children to an historic hearing involving one of their parents? John Roberts brought his, and I'm sure others with children did as well. Get over yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good for the hearing and airing this matter. I expect the woman thinks she is right but is in fact confused on the details of the incident including the people involved.

The GOP: when you just can’t help but vilify women.

NP. How are these accusations fair to Judge Kavanaugh’s wife and daughters?

What is fair or unfair? He chose to accept a nomination knowing that this allegation was going to surface. Rumors are, there are others. Maybe his wife will be able to teach a lesson to the daughters, whom he used a props at his hearing. THAT was gross at the time and even worse in retrospect.

Um, how is it "gross" to bring your children to an historic hearing involving one of their parents? John Roberts brought his, and I'm sure others with children did as well. Get over yourself.

Because they all knew this allegation was out there and used the pre-teen girls as props and shields.

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Anonymous wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/SpicyFiles/status/1041711319295111168

Interesting information here: the “confirm Kavanaugh” domain was bought in February 2017.

How did anyone know that Kavanaugh would be the nominee? Why did they buy it over a year before they needed it? It’s not like making “winner” t-shirts with both teams; there are more than two options.

He’s been on short lists for awhile. Occam’s Razor, bro.

That isn’t true. He wasn’t on Trump’s (rather long) list at all, until Kennedy was leaving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This means the republicans are very confident about Kavanaugh't denial.

They may know the woman is lying.

Or that the public pressure/GOP-Dem pressure behind closed doors is more than it seems.

Or that they don't give a shit and know that no matter what comes out in any hearing, Kavanaugh will be confirmed.

I don't think that's right. If that was the case they would have pushed through the vote. This took them by surprise. I think some combination of Sasse, Corker, Flake, Murkowski and Collins threatened defection without a hearing and all red state Democrats said no yes without a hearing.

They're counting on her not being credible because this is really stupid if they have any intention of confirming K. A public testimony of this assault will only make it more difficult to confirm him. Watching a woman publicly verbally describe an assault will be worse than reading it.

I think they picked Monday because they think that's enough time to dig up dirt but honestly the Republicans are stupid. If they wanted to seal this up before midterms they should have either forced a vote this week or cut K loose and go for another nominee.

Republicans CAN’T cut K loose. Trump nominated him. Only Trump can pull the nomination. And TRump always, always, always, always fights back no matter what. They have to vote him down (pissed Trump base) or vote him forward (pissed women). It is lose-lose. Mitch McTurtle didn’t want K to begin with. Right now, he would do anything in his power to make him go away.

I think that there are quite a few R Senators who hope more women come forward and this nomination becomes untenable. Because they are cowards and don’t want to have to vote.

PP, you do not even have the most basic idea how government works. No one can make Trump withdraw Kavanaugh, but no one can make the Senate give him a vote.

McConnell wants, more than anything, to keep the Senate in Republican hands. If he senses that confirming Kavanaugh in the face of these allegations will turn off voters, he will simply not schedule a vote.

Without a vote, Kavanaugh would withdraw himself in order to regain some semblance of normal life.

TRUMP can force McConnell to schedule a vote. Because he has a rapid base. And a twitter account. I know exactly how government works.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good for the hearing and airing this matter. I expect the woman thinks she is right but is in fact confused on the details of the incident including the people involved.

The GOP: when you just can’t help but vilify women.

NP. How are these accusations fair to Judge Kavanaugh’s wife and daughters?

What is fair or unfair? He chose to accept a nomination knowing that this allegation was going to surface. Rumors are, there are others. Maybe his wife will be able to teach a lesson to the daughters, whom he used a props at his hearing. THAT was gross at the time and even worse in retrospect.

Um, how is it "gross" to bring your children to an historic hearing involving one of their parents? John Roberts brought his, and I'm sure others with children did as well. Get over yourself.

Because he is rumored to have problems treating women as full citizens, apart from this attempted rape allegation. He treated his kids and his daughters’ basketball team as props. I don’t believe Roberts brought his kids to the hearings, just the introduction.

[Anonymous]

Have you all already discussed the alleged fact that she only told her shrink about this assault in 2012, right after the New Yorker Magazine did a feature on Mitt Romney that alluded to him picking Kavanaugh to replace RBG were Mitt to win (and he was in position to nominate a USSCJ)?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good for the hearing and airing this matter. I expect the woman thinks she is right but is in fact confused on the details of the incident including the people involved.

The GOP: when you just can’t help but vilify women.

NP. How are these accusations fair to Judge Kavanaugh’s wife and daughters?

When you commit an assault, you don’t really get to complain about collateral damage.

How about when you *don't* commit an assault? Do those people have any rights at all, or are they guilty once the allegation has been made.
Liberals: you don't know whether he did or did not do this. He has denied it. Perhaps you should back it up just a tad and realize YOU are not judge and jury of this man.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you all already discussed the alleged fact that she only told her shrink about this assault in 2012, right after the New Yorker Magazine did a feature on Mitt Romney that alluded to him picking Kavanaugh to replace RBG were Mitt to win (and he was in position to nominate a USSCJ)?

Wow THATS a f*cking reach.

[Anonymous]

By her account she was wearing a one-piece bathing suit but sounded like she had clothing of some kind over it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good for the hearing and airing this matter. I expect the woman thinks she is right but is in fact confused on the details of the incident including the people involved.

The GOP: when you just can’t help but vilify women.

NP. How are these accusations fair to Judge Kavanaugh’s wife and daughters?

What is fair or unfair? He chose to accept a nomination knowing that this allegation was going to surface. Rumors are, there are others. Maybe his wife will be able to teach a lesson to the daughters, whom he used a props at his hearing. THAT was gross at the time and even worse in retrospect.

Um, how is it "gross" to bring your children to an historic hearing involving one of their parents? John Roberts brought his, and I'm sure others with children did as well. Get over yourself.

Because he is rumored to have problems treating women as full citizens, apart from this attempted rape allegation. He treated his kids and his daughters’ basketball team as props. I don’t believe Roberts brought his kids to the hearings, just the introduction.

This and the fact that Kavanaugh is part of a GOP platform that not only wants to roll back Roe v Wade, but has continually assaulted other protections for women, women's access to healthcare, including contraception, and treats women's reproductive freedom (and ultimately, autonomy) as something to be fought against. The Handsmaid Tale comparison is uncomfortably appropriate. And the little school girls behind him made it seem like he gives two sh*ts about these girls becoming anything but wives and mothers.