Hogan Issues Order for School Accountability

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I wouldn't classify MCPS teachers as being underpaid. Teachers can easily make 6 figures for working 180 days per year not to mention a generous pension the likes of which nobody in the private sector gets.


I never understand why people believe that teachers work 180 days a year. And I am not a teacher.

Here is the current teacher salary schedule: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/ersc/employees/pay/schedules/FY19%20MCEA%20Salary%20Schedules.pdf

A new teacher coming in with a bachelor's degree makes $49,013. The top salary, for a teacher at step 25 with a master's degree or equivalent plus 60 credit hours, is $109,449.

It's better pay than Oklahoma, West Virginia, or Arizona, certainly. But nobody is getting rich in Montgomery County by being a teacher.

Also, as always, it raises the question: if being a teacher is so well-paid, for so little work, with such a great pension (that you can't get in the private sector) -- why haven't you switched fields to become a teacher?
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Anonymous wrote:http://www.mymcmedia.org/hogan-issues-executive-order-for-school-accountability/

“There is a persistent and alarming lack of accountability in local school systems across the state,” said Hogan. “It cannot and will not be tolerated by our administration.”

The article talks about PG County, but hopefully some of this will transfer over to MCPS. MCPS really, really needs someone to hold it accountable. Fingers crossed it leads to some positive changes. Especially when it comes to keeping kids safe from sexual abusers.


Can not wait to vote for this man again! Love him
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Anonymous wrote:http://www.mymcmedia.org/hogan-issues-executive-order-for-school-accountability/

“There is a persistent and alarming lack of accountability in local school systems across the state,” said Hogan. “It cannot and will not be tolerated by our administration.”

The article talks about PG County, but hopefully some of this will transfer over to MCPS. MCPS really, really needs someone to hold it accountable. Fingers crossed it leads to some positive changes. Especially when it comes to keeping kids safe from sexual abusers.


Can not wait to vote for this man again! Love him


Make Montgomery County Great Again!
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Anonymous wrote:http://www.mymcmedia.org/hogan-issues-executive-order-for-school-accountability/

“There is a persistent and alarming lack of accountability in local school systems across the state,” said Hogan. “It cannot and will not be tolerated by our administration.”

The article talks about PG County, but hopefully some of this will transfer over to MCPS. MCPS really, really needs someone to hold it accountable. Fingers crossed it leads to some positive changes. Especially when it comes to keeping kids safe from sexual abusers.


Can not wait to vote for this man again! Love him


Make Montgomery County Great Again!

I don't see how withholding school funds from MCPS has made it great again.
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Anonymous wrote:http://www.mymcmedia.org/hogan-issues-executive-order-for-school-accountability/

“There is a persistent and alarming lack of accountability in local school systems across the state,” said Hogan. “It cannot and will not be tolerated by our administration.”

The article talks about PG County, but hopefully some of this will transfer over to MCPS. MCPS really, really needs someone to hold it accountable. Fingers crossed it leads to some positive changes. Especially when it comes to keeping kids safe from sexual abusers.


Can not wait to vote for this man again! Love him


Make Montgomery County Great Again!


LOLZ
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.mymcmedia.org/hogan-issues-executive-order-for-school-accountability/

“There is a persistent and alarming lack of accountability in local school systems across the state,” said Hogan. “It cannot and will not be tolerated by our administration.”

The article talks about PG County, but hopefully some of this will transfer over to MCPS. MCPS really, really needs someone to hold it accountable. Fingers crossed it leads to some positive changes. Especially when it comes to keeping kids safe from sexual abusers.


Can not wait to vote for this man again! Love him


Make Montgomery County Great Again!


+100, I stand with you PP.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:

I wouldn't classify MCPS teachers as being underpaid. Teachers can easily make 6 figures for working 180 days per year not to mention a generous pension the likes of which nobody in the private sector gets.


I never understand why people believe that teachers work 180 days a year. And I am not a teacher.

Here is the current teacher salary schedule: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/ersc/employees/pay/schedules/FY19%20MCEA%20Salary%20Schedules.pdf

A new teacher coming in with a bachelor's degree makes $49,013. The top salary, for a teacher at step 25 with a master's degree or equivalent plus 60 credit hours, is $109,449.

It's better pay than Oklahoma, West Virginia, or Arizona, certainly. But nobody is getting rich in Montgomery County by being a teacher.

Also, as always, it raises the question: if being a teacher is so well-paid, for so little work, with such a great pension (that you can't get in the private sector) -- why haven't you switched fields to become a teacher?


great response
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The curriculum office that was expanded to provide 2.0 should go. The technology office is spending too much and on antiquated technologies. They need to modernize and slim down considerably but they don't have the internal talent or leadership to do it.

HR benefits are interesting 4M a year on tuition reimbursement? Is that common on top of MCPS benefits?

If you drill into any of the budgets you see lots of little divisions. This is where waste comes from in a government system. In a 2B budget, the internal thinking is the a few million spread across many units will not stand out and will be safe. Its a self protective mechanism. It also bloats the overhead costs because each unit has a higher level manager even if its small. System wide consolidation and reduction would make more sense.



Well, if teachers were paid what we're worth, we could afford to fork over $ for tuition. But when you add demand on top of demand - with a master's degree now being the bottom - should we go into debt over this?

As it stands now, no one wants to enter teaching, and yet, who's raising a stink over this? Instead, we bash teachers for low test scores due to factors beyond our control.

Is this what you want for you kids?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/06/teacher-shortages-guardian-survey-schools
Teacher shortages worsening in majority of US states, study reveals
Exclusive: Guardian survey shows schools turning to underqualified graduates to put more teachers in the classroom

Some states are turning to emergency or short-term licensure to put more teachers in the classroom.

. . .

The Guardian study found some states do not track unfilled positions on a statewide level at all. Alaska, Colorado and Maryland have just begun to keep recordsof unfilled positions – something they have never done before. All are states that have teacher shortage issues.


On a personal note, we had a first-year teacher quit before school started - the last day of preservice. Let's see how many last through December.


I wouldn't classify MCPS teachers as being underpaid. Teachers can easily make 6 figures for working 180 days per year not to mention a generous pension the likes of which nobody in the private sector gets.


Anonymous
I’m a teacher. I have two masters degrees and am a career changer, so I bring a wealth of experience from a different but (content) related field. I work a second job while I teach, and that’s on top of working summers to up my salary. With all the extra work, my salary is $90k. I have 15 years of experience in teaching. I do not have a pension — that benefit is for the “old timers” who got into the system much earlier. I’m not complaining, I’m explaining. I would never encourage my own kids to go into teaching now. There’s no respect, no autonomy, and the decision-makers tend to have little managerial experience. Very little in the way of effective leadership at the principal level either. I love the students, but there are so many policies that are at odds with providing kids with a decent education. It’s disheartening. As a parent, I do whatever I can to lift my kids’ teachers’ morale. I don’t want the hard-working, caring, purpose-driven, smart ones to flee. You shouldn’t want that either.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.mymcmedia.org/hogan-issues-executive-order-for-school-accountability/

“There is a persistent and alarming lack of accountability in local school systems across the state,” said Hogan. “It cannot and will not be tolerated by our administration.”

The article talks about PG County, but hopefully some of this will transfer over to MCPS. MCPS really, really needs someone to hold it accountable. Fingers crossed it leads to some positive changes. Especially when it comes to keeping kids safe from sexual abusers.


Can not wait to vote for this man again! Love him


Make Montgomery County Great Again!

I don't see how withholding school funds from MCPS has made it great again.


+1 Educational quality has dropped sharply during Hogan's tenure, but you know....who cares about facts?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.mymcmedia.org/hogan-issues-executive-order-for-school-accountability/

“There is a persistent and alarming lack of accountability in local school systems across the state,” said Hogan. “It cannot and will not be tolerated by our administration.”

The article talks about PG County, but hopefully some of this will transfer over to MCPS. MCPS really, really needs someone to hold it accountable. Fingers crossed it leads to some positive changes. Especially when it comes to keeping kids safe from sexual abusers.


Can not wait to vote for this man again! Love him


Make Montgomery County Great Again!

I don't see how withholding school funds from MCPS has made it great again.


+1 Educational quality has dropped sharply during Hogan's tenure, but you know....who cares about facts?


What do you think the impact of Jealous implementing Kirwan and eliminating state funding for MCPS?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

I wouldn't classify MCPS teachers as being underpaid. Teachers can easily make 6 figures for working 180 days per year not to mention a generous pension the likes of which nobody in the private sector gets.


I never understand why people believe that teachers work 180 days a year. And I am not a teacher.

Here is the current teacher salary schedule: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/uploadedFiles/departments/ersc/employees/pay/schedules/FY19%20MCEA%20Salary%20Schedules.pdf

A new teacher coming in with a bachelor's degree makes $49,013. The top salary, for a teacher at step 25 with a master's degree or equivalent plus 60 credit hours, is $109,449.

It's better pay than Oklahoma, West Virginia, or Arizona, certainly. But nobody is getting rich in Montgomery County by being a teacher.

Also, as always, it raises the question: if being a teacher is so well-paid, for so little work, with such a great pension (that you can't get in the private sector) -- why haven't you switched fields to become a teacher?


Many years ago I did exactly that. It was great having summers off in addition to all the other holidays. In total, you get around 15 weeks off each year. This blows away the private sector, and don't get me started on the pension! I've been living off mine for the past 25 years and hope to be around for another 25. Overall it's a great field to be in if you work in a rich county like MCPS.
Anonymous
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What do you think the impact of Jealous implementing Kirwan and eliminating state funding for MCPS?


A poster (or maybe it's multiple posters, I don't know) keeps bringing that up on this forum, without ever explaining what they mean by it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I for one say AMEN to Hogan for trying to do something about the corrupt practices of our county school systems. MCPS should closely follow PG County for any scrutiny with the child predator problem outranking any other issue.


Amen to what? An election year token? Where are the specifics? Why is he coming out with this in September of 2018? Why hasnt he done anything since he took office in 2015?

Why are schools across Baltimore closed due to lack of air conditioning?

Does he really think we're this stupid?


Yes. Yes he does.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.mymcmedia.org/hogan-issues-executive-order-for-school-accountability/

“There is a persistent and alarming lack of accountability in local school systems across the state,” said Hogan. “It cannot and will not be tolerated by our administration.”

The article talks about PG County, but hopefully some of this will transfer over to MCPS. MCPS really, really needs someone to hold it accountable. Fingers crossed it leads to some positive changes. Especially when it comes to keeping kids safe from sexual abusers.


Can not wait to vote for this man again! Love him


Make Montgomery County Great Again!

I don't see how withholding school funds from MCPS has made it great again.


+1 Educational quality has dropped sharply during Hogan's tenure, but you know....who cares about facts?


Wait, what? You want to blame the decline of MCPS on Hogan? Can you clarify?

Did Hogan implement a crappy curriculum for MCPS? No, that was all MCPS on its own.

Did Hogan decide to spend $5 million on that useless curriculum? Nope, that was MCPS again.

Did Hogan encourage MCPS to shelter child sexual abusers over the past decade? Nope, again that was MCPS leadership.

I blame MCPS for the complete lack of leadership and lack of organization.

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