Hogan Issues Order for School Accountability

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This. Since most teachers have never held a job as a professional in the private sector they have no idea how the real world works. Just wait, we'll probably get the "We don't get paid for holidays" union-babble coming next.

What makes the private sector "the real world"? Are public-school teachers working in the non-real world? Or maybe the fake world? I always wonder when people bring up this point.

Public school employees work outside of the reality that most professionals work under.

For example: A public school employee can violate multiple standards in the MCPS Employee Code of Conduct and keep his/her job as long as he/she is not arrested for a criminal offense. The practice of progressive discipline allows employees who have done such horrendous acts as having girls sit on a male teachers lap for movie time stay in place for years even after this behavior is reported. In the real world, if I violate my employers code of conduct, I can immediately be fired. I sign a contract to that effect so there is clear guidance as to what is a dismissible offense. These offenses are not criminal but fail to reach the high expectations of my employer. When they are committed, it jeopardizes the reputation of the organization as a whole.

In the world outside of MCPS, salaries and benefits are dictated based on the work I do and the value I bring to my employer - not just the degree status I hold or the number of years I am with the company. That's why I work overtime when needed to get the job done and I don't complain. I am proud that I go above and beyond when needed. I am a highly skilled and valued employee which my company compensates me well for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This. Since most teachers have never held a job as a professional in the private sector they have no idea how the real world works. Just wait, we'll probably get the "We don't get paid for holidays" union-babble coming next.

What makes the private sector "the real world"? Are public-school teachers working in the non-real world? Or maybe the fake world? I always wonder when people bring up this point.

Public school employees work outside of the reality that most professionals work under.

For example: A public school employee can violate multiple standards in the MCPS Employee Code of Conduct and keep his/her job as long as he/she is not arrested for a criminal offense. The practice of progressive discipline allows employees who have done such horrendous acts as having girls sit on a male teachers lap for movie time stay in place for years even after this behavior is reported. In the real world, if I violate my employers code of conduct, I can immediately be fired. I sign a contract to that effect so there is clear guidance as to what is a dismissible offense. These offenses are not criminal but fail to reach the high expectations of my employer. When they are committed, it jeopardizes the reputation of the organization as a whole.

In the world outside of MCPS, salaries and benefits are dictated based on the work I do and the value I bring to my employer - not just the degree status I hold or the number of years I am with the company. That's why I work overtime when needed to get the job done and I don't complain. I am proud that I go above and beyond when needed. I am a highly skilled and valued employee which my company compensates me well for.

You just did it again. Why is your world realer than a teacher's?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This. Since most teachers have never held a job as a professional in the private sector they have no idea how the real world works. Just wait, we'll probably get the "We don't get paid for holidays" union-babble coming next.

What makes the private sector "the real world"? Are public-school teachers working in the non-real world? Or maybe the fake world? I always wonder when people bring up this point.

Public school employees work outside of the reality that most professionals work under.

For example: A public school employee can violate multiple standards in the MCPS Employee Code of Conduct and keep his/her job as long as he/she is not arrested for a criminal offense. The practice of progressive discipline allows employees who have done such horrendous acts as having girls sit on a male teachers lap for movie time stay in place for years even after this behavior is reported. In the real world, if I violate my employers code of conduct, I can immediately be fired. I sign a contract to that effect so there is clear guidance as to what is a dismissible offense. These offenses are not criminal but fail to reach the high expectations of my employer. When they are committed, it jeopardizes the reputation of the organization as a whole.

In the world outside of MCPS, salaries and benefits are dictated based on the work I do and the value I bring to my employer - not just the degree status I hold or the number of years I am with the company. That's why I work overtime when needed to get the job done and I don't complain. I am proud that I go above and beyond when needed. I am a highly skilled and valued employee which my company compensates me well for.

You just did it again. Why is your world realer than a teacher's?

MCPS is la la land where you can do a piss poor job but still have a decent salary, loads of holidays and breaks, and retirement benefits. That is not the reality most of us work in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

MCPS is la la land where you can do a piss poor job but still have a decent salary, loads of holidays and breaks, and retirement benefits. That is not the reality most of us work in.

In that case, maybe you should consider switching careers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

MCPS is la la land where you can do a piss poor job but still have a decent salary, loads of holidays and breaks, and retirement benefits. That is not the reality most of us work in.

In that case, maybe you should consider switching careers?

I am happy working in a place that appreciates high standards. The amount of corruption and waste in MCPS would drive me bananas.

[Anonymous]

Just election talk. If there is no accountability then what the hell has he been doing all this while? Hogan is incompetent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This. Since most teachers have never held a job as a professional in the private sector they have no idea how the real world works. Just wait, we'll probably get the "We don't get paid for holidays" union-babble coming next.

What makes the private sector "the real world"? Are public-school teachers working in the non-real world? Or maybe the fake world? I always wonder when people bring up this point.

Public school employees work outside of the reality that most professionals work under.

For example: A public school employee can violate multiple standards in the MCPS Employee Code of Conduct and keep his/her job as long as he/she is not arrested for a criminal offense. The practice of progressive discipline allows employees who have done such horrendous acts as having girls sit on a male teachers lap for movie time stay in place for years even after this behavior is reported. In the real world, if I violate my employers code of conduct, I can immediately be fired. I sign a contract to that effect so there is clear guidance as to what is a dismissible offense. These offenses are not criminal but fail to reach the high expectations of my employer. When they are committed, it jeopardizes the reputation of the organization as a whole.

In the world outside of MCPS, salaries and benefits are dictated based on the work I do and the value I bring to my employer - not just the degree status I hold or the number of years I am with the company. That's why I work overtime when needed to get the job done and I don't complain. I am proud that I go above and beyond when needed. I am a highly skilled and valued employee which my company compensates me well for.

You just did it again. Why is your world realer than a teacher's?

In 2017, according to the Bureau of Labor and Statistics:

5.2% of the U.S. workforce belong to a public sector union
94.8% of the U.S. workforce do not belong to a public sector union

94.8% = "Real World"
5.2% = "Other"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

In 2017, according to the Bureau of Labor and Statistics:

5.2% of the U.S. workforce belong to a public sector union
94.8% of the U.S. workforce do not belong to a public sector union

94.8% = "Real World"
5.2% = "Other"

So anything that only applies to 5% of the US labor force isn't the real world? That might lead to some unexpected conclusions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just election talk. If there is no accountability then what the hell has he been doing all this while? Hogan is incompetent.

With 70% approval rating, the majority of Maryland would disagree with your statement that Hogan is incompetent. I am a Democrat and I disagree with your statement. I applaud Hogan's efforts to look into the problems plaguing Maryland public schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This. Since most teachers have never held a job as a professional in the private sector they have no idea how the real world works. Just wait, we'll probably get the "We don't get paid for holidays" union-babble coming next.

What makes the private sector "the real world"? Are public-school teachers working in the non-real world? Or maybe the fake world? I always wonder when people bring up this point.

Public school employees work outside of the reality that most professionals work under.

For example: A public school employee can violate multiple standards in the MCPS Employee Code of Conduct and keep his/her job as long as he/she is not arrested for a criminal offense. The practice of progressive discipline allows employees who have done such horrendous acts as having girls sit on a male teachers lap for movie time stay in place for years even after this behavior is reported. In the real world, if I violate my employers code of conduct, I can immediately be fired. I sign a contract to that effect so there is clear guidance as to what is a dismissible offense. These offenses are not criminal but fail to reach the high expectations of my employer. When they are committed, it jeopardizes the reputation of the organization as a whole.

In the world outside of MCPS, salaries and benefits are dictated based on the work I do and the value I bring to my employer - not just the degree status I hold or the number of years I am with the company. That's why I work overtime when needed to get the job done and I don't complain. I am proud that I go above and beyond when needed. I am a highly skilled and valued employee which my company compensates me well for.

You just did it again. Why is your world realer than a teacher's?

MCPS is la la land where you can do a piss poor job but still have a decent salary, loads of holidays and breaks, and retirement benefits. That is not the reality most of us work in.

Whoosh!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This. Since most teachers have never held a job as a professional in the private sector they have no idea how the real world works. Just wait, we'll probably get the "We don't get paid for holidays" union-babble coming next.

What makes the private sector "the real world"? Are public-school teachers working in the non-real world? Or maybe the fake world? I always wonder when people bring up this point.

Public school employees work outside of the reality that most professionals work under.

For example: A public school employee can violate multiple standards in the MCPS Employee Code of Conduct and keep his/her job as long as he/she is not arrested for a criminal offense. The practice of progressive discipline allows employees who have done such horrendous acts as having girls sit on a male teachers lap for movie time stay in place for years even after this behavior is reported. In the real world, if I violate my employers code of conduct, I can immediately be fired. I sign a contract to that effect so there is clear guidance as to what is a dismissible offense. These offenses are not criminal but fail to reach the high expectations of my employer. When they are committed, it jeopardizes the reputation of the organization as a whole.

In the world outside of MCPS, salaries and benefits are dictated based on the work I do and the value I bring to my employer - not just the degree status I hold or the number of years I am with the company. That's why I work overtime when needed to get the job done and I don't complain. I am proud that I go above and beyond when needed. I am a highly skilled and valued employee which my company compensates me well for.

Well, genius

Without teachers you’d have no colleagues or clients.

I can’t see how one gets “any MORE real world than that.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
This. Since most teachers have never held a job as a professional in the private sector they have no idea how the real world works. Just wait, we'll probably get the "We don't get paid for holidays" union-babble coming next.

What makes the private sector "the real world"? Are public-school teachers working in the non-real world? Or maybe the fake world? I always wonder when people bring up this point.

Public school employees work outside of the reality that most professionals work under.

For example: A public school employee can violate multiple standards in the MCPS Employee Code of Conduct and keep his/her job as long as he/she is not arrested for a criminal offense. The practice of progressive discipline allows employees who have done such horrendous acts as having girls sit on a male teachers lap for movie time stay in place for years even after this behavior is reported. In the real world, if I violate my employers code of conduct, I can immediately be fired. I sign a contract to that effect so there is clear guidance as to what is a dismissible offense. These offenses are not criminal but fail to reach the high expectations of my employer. When they are committed, it jeopardizes the reputation of the organization as a whole.

In the world outside of MCPS, salaries and benefits are dictated based on the work I do and the value I bring to my employer - not just the degree status I hold or the number of years I am with the company. That's why I work overtime when needed to get the job done and I don't complain. I am proud that I go above and beyond when needed. I am a highly skilled and valued employee which my company compensates me well for.

Well, genius

Without teachers you’d have no colleagues or clients.

I can’t see how one gets “any MORE real world than that.”

[Anonymous]

Clearly a great example of the type of teachers who are drawn to teach in MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Wait. I thiught MCPS has a new Social Media policy so teachers are supposed to be spouting off their opinions on blog sites like DCUM. Clearly not everyone read that memo or follows MCPS policies for employees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait. I thiught MCPS has a new Social Media policy so teachers are supposed to be spouting off their opinions on blog sites like DCUM. Clearly not everyone read that memo or follows MCPS policies for employees.

Typo. My bad. Teachers are not supposed to be posting on blog sites according to Dr. Smith.