How bad will Georgetown Pike be during school drop off hours in McLean?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d like the left turn closed at 123/Blake lane from 7-9 am and 4-7 pm.Who do I contact? The traffic on Blake lane is terrible! It’s everyone cutting through a road with residential area only to get to 66. It’s mainly non-Fairfax county residents. It takes 30 minutes for locals to go just 2 miles. It takes 20 minutes to make a left turn onto Blake Lane from any neighborhood street at that timeframe. It’s worse in the morning with commuters causing school buses and parents to be late as they make their way to the metro. People get off at 123 and head down Blake Lane to get to metro. A residential street has become a commuters short cut.

But, it’s nit Georgetown Pike - not loads of rich people - so we’ll see if vdot looks into it. Maybe they could just add lights at every intersection, so residents can get out of their streets.

The Langley/Great Falls crowd expects special treatment. Whether it's keeping the poor kids out of their schools, keeping their kids out of the schools with poor kids, or keeping Maryland cars off roads near their homes.

If VDOT closes this ramp, the traffic won't magically disappear. It will just spill over into other neighborhoods in McLean, Falls Church, and Arlington that already have their fair share of traffic. If Arlington and Fairfax politicians allow this, they should be removed from office.

Okay, so somehow it is preferable if the traffic affects the nicer neighborhood? The one that carries a good chunk of Fairfax County? Hilarious.

Sorry if this is stating the obvious, but these areas off Georgetown Pike no longer sound like the "nicer neighborhoods." In 2018, less car-dependent neighborhoods with more commuting options are "nicer."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d like the left turn closed at 123/Blake lane from 7-9 am and 4-7 pm.Who do I contact? The traffic on Blake lane is terrible! It’s everyone cutting through a road with residential area only to get to 66. It’s mainly non-Fairfax county residents. It takes 30 minutes for locals to go just 2 miles. It takes 20 minutes to make a left turn onto Blake Lane from any neighborhood street at that timeframe. It’s worse in the morning with commuters causing school buses and parents to be late as they make their way to the metro. People get off at 123 and head down Blake Lane to get to metro. A residential street has become a commuters short cut.

But, it’s nit Georgetown Pike - not loads of rich people - so we’ll see if vdot looks into it. Maybe they could just add lights at every intersection, so residents can get out of their streets.

The Langley/Great Falls crowd expects special treatment. Whether it's keeping the poor kids out of their schools, keeping their kids out of the schools with poor kids, or keeping Maryland cars off roads near their homes.

If VDOT closes this ramp, the traffic won't magically disappear. It will just spill over into other neighborhoods in McLean, Falls Church, and Arlington that already have their fair share of traffic. If Arlington and Fairfax politicians allow this, they should be removed from office.

Okay, so somehow it is preferable if the traffic affects the nicer neighborhood? The one that carries a good chunk of Fairfax County? Hilarious.

Sorry if this is stating the obvious, but these areas off Georgetown Pike no longer sound like the "nicer neighborhoods." In 2018, less car-dependent neighborhoods with more commuting options are "nicer."

Maybe to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What you seemingly fail to understand is the fact that these Langley folks cannot even get out of their neighborhoods! It is not a joke! Commuters are lined up on all of the parallel and perpendicular streets to GTPike blocking people’s driveways! They can no longer navigate their own communities let alone their own neighborhoods thanks to our of state commuters. YOU are the one being selfish! YOU must live in areas of McLean like 123 that are four lane roads that can handle traffic. The winding GTPike cannot. The narrow Swinks Mill and Balls Hill roads cannot. YOU are the snob who is failing to grasp the reality of the traffic situation and would rather engage in class warfare.

+1

Yup. Blame the rich people. How convenient. And transparent. For those who think Langley is not carrying you - how cute.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What you seemingly fail to understand is the fact that these Langley folks cannot even get out of their neighborhoods! It is not a joke! Commuters are lined up on all of the parallel and perpendicular streets to GTPike blocking people’s driveways! They can no longer navigate their own communities let alone their own neighborhoods thanks to our of state commuters. YOU are the one being selfish! YOU must live in areas of McLean like 123 that are four lane roads that can handle traffic. The winding GTPike cannot. The narrow Swinks Mill and Balls Hill roads cannot. YOU are the snob who is failing to grasp the reality of the traffic situation and would rather engage in class warfare.

+1

Yup. Blame the rich people. How convenient. And transparent. For those who think Langley is not carrying you - how cute.

NP here. Not a good look for you “Langley people.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d like the left turn closed at 123/Blake lane from 7-9 am and 4-7 pm.Who do I contact? The traffic on Blake lane is terrible! It’s everyone cutting through a road with residential area only to get to 66. It’s mainly non-Fairfax county residents. It takes 30 minutes for locals to go just 2 miles. It takes 20 minutes to make a left turn onto Blake Lane from any neighborhood street at that timeframe. It’s worse in the morning with commuters causing school buses and parents to be late as they make their way to the metro. People get off at 123 and head down Blake Lane to get to metro. A residential street has become a commuters short cut.

But, it’s nit Georgetown Pike - not loads of rich people - so we’ll see if vdot looks into it. Maybe they could just add lights at every intersection, so residents can get out of their streets.

The Langley/Great Falls crowd expects special treatment. Whether it's keeping the poor kids out of their schools, keeping their kids out of the schools with poor kids, or keeping Maryland cars off roads near their homes.

If VDOT closes this ramp, the traffic won't magically disappear. It will just spill over into other neighborhoods in McLean, Falls Church, and Arlington that already have their fair share of traffic. If Arlington and Fairfax politicians allow this, they should be removed from office.

Okay, so somehow it is preferable if the traffic affects the nicer neighborhood? The one that carries a good chunk of Fairfax County? Hilarious.

Sorry if this is stating the obvious, but these areas off Georgetown Pike no longer sound like the "nicer neighborhoods." In 2018, less car-dependent neighborhoods with more commuting options are "nicer."

LOL— because metro is dependable here!!! LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What you seemingly fail to understand is the fact that these Langley folks cannot even get out of their neighborhoods! It is not a joke! Commuters are lined up on all of the parallel and perpendicular streets to GTPike blocking people’s driveways! They can no longer navigate their own communities let alone their own neighborhoods thanks to our of state commuters. YOU are the one being selfish! YOU must live in areas of McLean like 123 that are four lane roads that can handle traffic. The winding GTPike cannot. The narrow Swinks Mill and Balls Hill roads cannot. YOU are the snob who is failing to grasp the reality of the traffic situation and would rather engage in class warfare.

+1

Yup. Blame the rich people. How convenient. And transparent. For those who think Langley is not carrying you - how cute.

NP here. Not a good look for you “Langley people.”

+1000. Whiny rich people wanting to offload their first-world problems on others is just embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

The VDOT engineer said the conditions he witnessed at the GEorgetown Pike ramp intersection was “some of the most aggressive driving I’ve seen in the US.” Let’s hope one of those MD drivers doesn’t kill a kid walking home from Cooper. To the poster above, That sure would be a horrible “first-world” problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The VDOT engineer said the conditions he witnessed at the GEorgetown Pike ramp intersection was “some of the most aggressive driving I’ve seen in the US.” Let’s hope one of those MD drivers doesn’t kill a kid walking home from Cooper. To the poster above, That sure would be a horrible “first-world” problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: The one that carries a good chunk of Fairfax County? Hilarious.

Ooh, interesting attitude.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The VDOT engineer said the conditions he witnessed at the GEorgetown Pike ramp intersection was “some of the most aggressive driving I’ve seen in the US.” Let’s hope one of those MD drivers doesn’t kill a kid walking home from Cooper. To the poster above, That sure would be a horrible “first-world” problem.

+1

Fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The VDOT engineer said the conditions he witnessed at the GEorgetown Pike ramp intersection was “some of the most aggressive driving I’ve seen in the US.” Let’s hope one of those MD drivers doesn’t kill a kid walking home from Cooper. To the poster above, That sure would be a horrible “first-world” problem.

+1

Fact.

Laughable - about as convincing as the claim that Langley “carries a good chunk of Fairfax.” What babies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The VDOT engineer said the conditions he witnessed at the GEorgetown Pike ramp intersection was “some of the most aggressive driving I’ve seen in the US.” Let’s hope one of those MD drivers doesn’t kill a kid walking home from Cooper. To the poster above, That sure would be a horrible “first-world” problem.

+1

Fact.

Laughable - about as convincing as the claim that Langley “carries a good chunk of Fairfax.” What babies.

Namecalling is not helping your cause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The VDOT engineer said the conditions he witnessed at the GEorgetown Pike ramp intersection was “some of the most aggressive driving I’ve seen in the US.” Let’s hope one of those MD drivers doesn’t kill a kid walking home from Cooper. To the poster above, That sure would be a horrible “first-world” problem.

If you are actually interested in improving pedestrian conditions at the intersection of GTown Pike and Balls Hill Road, there is a lot that FCDOT and VDOT could do. Make the crosswalk more visible. Eliminate the slip and add a pedestrian bulb out to reduce the crossing distance. Maybe even get rid of the left turn lane and add a pedestrian island instead.

Of course that might slow traffic even further.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The VDOT engineer said the conditions he witnessed at the GEorgetown Pike ramp intersection was “some of the most aggressive driving I’ve seen in the US.” Let’s hope one of those MD drivers doesn’t kill a kid walking home from Cooper. To the poster above, That sure would be a horrible “first-world” problem.

+1

Fact.

Laughable - about as convincing as the claim that Langley “carries a good chunk of Fairfax.” What babies.

Namecalling is not helping your cause.

It's your "cause," and the support for the change is not there.

"But when VDOT officials discussed the idea at an Aug. 2 community forum at McLean High School, the overwhelming majority of the roughly 280 people who showed up strongly opposed the proposed ramp closure."

https://www.insidenova.com/news/arlington/vdot-plan-for-i--georgetown-pike-draws-community-pushback/article_90f68498-98a6-11e8-a2f3-f39f2cb47246.html

[Anonymous]

VDOT can always widen Georgetown Pike.