2017-2018 PARCC results

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love that DCUM is having a discussion about the achievement gap on this thread.

If you want to explore this further, go to the EmpowerK12 website. They are an ed policy shop that analyzes PARCC trends and focuses on what's happening at among schools with AT-LEAST 30% at risk students (you school will not be mentioned if you don't have a lot of very disadvantaged kids; socioeconomic or racial and ethnic diversity along =/= at risk or disadvantaged).

I'm not affiliated AT ALL with EmpowerK12, but I think their data analysis is interesting. They've updated their dashboards with 2018 data (best viewed on desktop, not mobile) and are singling out some of the KIPP campuses, Ketchum ES and Washington Leadership Academy (high school) for especially strong improvement.

https://empowerk12.org/dc-parcc-and-equity

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Outside of Deal and a handful of charters middle school continues to be ugly

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So where is the achievement gap below 40 or 50%?

At Oyster-Adams, the black/white achievement gap in ELA is 12%; however it’s 32% in math.

There is essentially no black/white achievement gap at Ross: 4% in ELA and 0% in Math. DCPS needs to bottle and replicate whatever is going on at Ross!

Give me a break people. Do you really think there are a ton of at-risk kids at Ross? You’re an idiot.

Ross has solved the Achievement Gap problem! They need to be featured nationally!

[Anonymous]

I need help. If Parcc goes up to 5, then why do they show me on 3 and 4? I'd like to choose 4 and 5, rather than 3 and 4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I need help. If Parcc goes up to 5, then why do they show me on 3 and 4? I'd like to choose 4 and 5, rather than 3 and 4.

The results.osse.dc.gov site default is to show percentage achieving to 4 and 5.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Top charters for grades 3-8 in Math and ELA via https://www.dcpcsb.org/evaluating/parcc

ELA (% proficient + advanced)

BASIS MS 72.1 (5-8th)
Washington Latin MS 65.5 (5-8th)
LAMB 59.7 (3-5)
YY 59 (3-5)
ITS 576 (3-8th)
DCI 57 (6-8th)
DC Prep 51.5
KIPP Lead 49.2 (3-5)
KIPP Promise 48.1 (3-5)
KIPP Heights 46.9 (3-5)

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Wow ITS!

Go look at the results and consider economically disadvantaged. Comparing ITS to most of the other schools on this list is insulting. The numbers for ITS should be much higher. They have a student body that mimics Ross - and perform much lower.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SWS is killing it.

No, Ross is K.I.L.L.I.N.G it!!!

And I’m not a Ross parent. I just believe that credit should be given where it’s due.

Yes they are! Don’t they have big classs size too? Wow!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Top charters for grades 3-8 in Math and ELA via https://www.dcpcsb.org/evaluating/parcc

ELA (% proficient + advanced)

BASIS MS 72.1 (5-8th)
Washington Latin MS 65.5 (5-8th)
LAMB 59.7 (3-5)
YY 59 (3-5)
ITS 576 (3-8th)
DCI 57 (6-8th)
DC Prep 51.5
KIPP Lead 49.2 (3-5)
KIPP Promise 48.1 (3-5)
KIPP Heights 46.9 (3-5)

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Wow ITS!

Go look at the results and consider economically disadvantaged. Comparing ITS to most of the other schools on this list is insulting. The numbers for ITS should be much higher. They have a student body that mimics Ross - and perform much lower.

As noted above, older kids at ITS don’t have the same demographics as pk3-K. The middle school is very small and nearly 100% minority. My child’s 3rd grade class (probably 70-75% minority) looks very similar to 3rd grade at his cousin’s class at LAMB and god brother at YY and the grades performed the same if not better. So I’m not sure why you wouldn’t show them on the same list as YY or LAMB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So where is the achievement gap below 40 or 50%?

At Oyster-Adams, the black/white achievement gap in ELA is 12%; however it’s 32% in math.

There is essentially no black/white achievement gap at Ross: 4% in ELA and 0% in Math. DCPS needs to bottle and replicate whatever is going on at Ross!

I wonder—are the black kids at Ross high SES or something? Since we know a lot of this boils down to SES differences?

Probably, but aren’t most of the black kids at Janney, Key, Mann, Murch, etc...also high SES? Those schools all have much larger achievement gaps than Ross.

No. I have 3 kids at Janney. The black kid population is probably only 25% middle to high SES (and some of this 25% is black kids adopted by white neighborhood families). The rest (75%) of the black kids are out of boundary
and lower (to very low) SES. And because it's Janney the the gulf between high and low is HUGE. To buy in AU Park now you have to afford 1.2 million+. The families in the younger grades are all really wealthy--they're no longer even dual feds, they're law partners.
The economic gulf between them and the black kids coming from across the park is massive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So where is the achievement gap below 40 or 50%?

At Oyster-Adams, the black/white achievement gap in ELA is 12%; however it’s 32% in math.

There is essentially no black/white achievement gap at Ross: 4% in ELA and 0% in Math. DCPS needs to bottle and replicate whatever is going on at Ross!

I wonder—are the black kids at Ross high SES or something? Since we know a lot of this boils down to SES differences?

Probably, but aren’t most of the black kids at Janney, Key, Mann, Murch, etc...also high SES? Those schools all have much larger achievement gaps than Ross.

No. I have 3 kids at Janney. The black kid population is probably only 25% middle to high SES (and some of this 25% is black kids adopted by white neighborhood families). The rest (75%) of the black kids are out of boundary
and lower (to very low) SES. And because it's Janney the the gulf between high and low is HUGE. To buy in AU Park now you have to afford 1.2 million+. The families in the younger grades are all really wealthy--they're no longer even dual feds, they're law partners.
The economic gulf between them and the black kids coming from across the park is massive.

How did so many black kids oob get into Janney if the school crowded? You know Janney well and can make educated guesses for that school, but since the other schools are only miles apart, how about: " I suspect the same goes for Key, Mann and Murch". Or did most white parents with adopted black kids end up in Janney?
I'd say Murch has lots of OOB kids and the huge gap reflects it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Top charters for grades 3-8 in Math and ELA via https://www.dcpcsb.org/evaluating/parcc

ELA (% proficient + advanced)

BASIS MS 72.1 (5-8th)
Washington Latin MS 65.5 (5-8th)
LAMB 59.7 (3-5)
YY 59 (3-5)
ITS 576 (3-8th)
DCI 57 (6-8th)
DC Prep 51.5
KIPP Lead 49.2 (3-5)
KIPP Promise 48.1 (3-5)
KIPP Heights 46.9 (3-5)

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Wow ITS!

Go look at the results and consider economically disadvantaged. Comparing ITS to most of the other schools on this list is insulting. The numbers for ITS should be much higher. They have a student body that mimics Ross - and perform much lower.

As noted above, older kids at ITS don’t have the same demographics as pk3-K. The middle school is very small and nearly 100% minority. My child’s 3rd grade class (probably 70-75% minority) looks very similar to 3rd grade at his cousin’s class at LAMB and god brother at YY and the grades performed the same if not better. So I’m not sure why you wouldn’t show them on the same list as YY or LAMB.

Interesting to see the scores of similar charters by grade level. I do agree it’s not a fair comparison to measure a pk3-8 to pk3-5.

Average math and ela

3rd
ITS 67%
YY 55%
CMI 52.5%
MV 45.5%
LAMB 44.5%
Lee 27%

4th
ITS 62.5%
YY 47%
CMI 47%
LAMB 44%
MV 43.5%

5th
YY 70%
LAMB 62.5%
ITS 50%
MV 50%
CMI 21%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a longtime property owner IB for Murch, I note that its relative position in the ranking order of "general schoolwide achievement" has .... unequivocally tanked. Relative to its extremely similar upper NW siblings; to schools like eaton and stoddert that also have a ton of rental apartments inbounds like Murch does (thereby allowing for an enrollment of somewhat less affluent students and ESL embassy kids); relative to the "rowhouse Riviera" from Dupont to Cap Hill -- where the housing style/yard size may differ, but the parents' jobs and education levels are the same as they are in Ward3.

If I had kids at Murch or headed there, I'd want some answers about its plummet over the past 10 years, in this imperfect but useful metric. It's undeniable. What's going on? The trend transcends principals, renovation, etc

There is a math problem

No idea, but when 23% of kids in a testing grade are new to the school within the year, it might hard to say trace the issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So where is the achievement gap below 40 or 50%?

At Oyster-Adams, the black/white achievement gap in ELA is 12%; however it’s 32% in math.

There is essentially no black/white achievement gap at Ross: 4% in ELA and 0% in Math. DCPS needs to bottle and replicate whatever is going on at Ross!

I wonder—are the black kids at Ross high SES or something? Since we know a lot of this boils down to SES differences?

Probably, but aren’t most of the black kids at Janney, Key, Mann, Murch, etc...also high SES? Those schools all have much larger achievement gaps than Ross.

No. I have 3 kids at Janney. The black kid population is probably only 25% middle to high SES (and some of this 25% is black kids adopted by white neighborhood families). The rest (75%) of the black kids are out of boundary
and lower (to very low) SES. And because it's Janney the the gulf between high and low is HUGE. To buy in AU Park now you have to afford 1.2 million+. The families in the younger grades are all really wealthy--they're no longer even dual feds, they're law partners.
The economic gulf between them and the black kids coming from across the park is massive.

How did so many black kids oob get into Janney if the school crowded? You know Janney well and can make educated guesses for that school, but since the other schools are only miles apart, how about: " I suspect the same goes for Key, Mann and Murch". Or did most white parents with adopted black kids end up in Janney?
I'd say Murch has lots of OOB kids and the huge gap reflects it.

Older siblings who got in years ago when it was easier?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a longtime property owner IB for Murch, I note that its relative position in the ranking order of "general schoolwide achievement" has .... unequivocally tanked. Relative to its extremely similar upper NW siblings; to schools like eaton and stoddert that also have a ton of rental apartments inbounds like Murch does (thereby allowing for an enrollment of somewhat less affluent students and ESL embassy kids); relative to the "rowhouse Riviera" from Dupont to Cap Hill -- where the housing style/yard size may differ, but the parents' jobs and education levels are the same as they are in Ward3.

If I had kids at Murch or headed there, I'd want some answers about its plummet over the past 10 years, in this imperfect but useful metric. It's undeniable. What's going on? The trend transcends principals, renovation, etc

There is a math problem

No idea, but when 23% of kids in a testing grade are new to the school within the year, it might hard to say trace the issue.

Eaton and Murch are more similar demographically -- both have ~50 students who are economically disadvantaged and 20+ students who are at risk. Murch has more students with disabilities, in part because there are the self-contained classrooms at Murch. There is not a concentration of students with disabilities at Stoddert or Eaton.

As bad as the black-white, latino-white achievement gaps are, students with disabilities are the one group whose performance hasn't budged at all in 4 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So where is the achievement gap below 40 or 50%?

At Oyster-Adams, the black/white achievement gap in ELA is 12%; however it’s 32% in math.

There is essentially no black/white achievement gap at Ross: 4% in ELA and 0% in Math. DCPS needs to bottle and replicate whatever is going on at Ross!

I wonder—are the black kids at Ross high SES or something? Since we know a lot of this boils down to SES differences?

Probably, but aren’t most of the black kids at Janney, Key, Mann, Murch, etc...also high SES? Those schools all have much larger achievement gaps than Ross.

No. I have 3 kids at Janney. The black kid population is probably only 25% middle to high SES (and some of this 25% is black kids adopted by white neighborhood families). The rest (75%) of the black kids are out of boundary
and lower (to very low) SES. And because it's Janney the the gulf between high and low is HUGE. To buy in AU Park now you have to afford 1.2 million+. The families in the younger grades are all really wealthy--they're no longer even dual feds, they're law partners.
The economic gulf between them and the black kids coming from across the park is massive.

How did so many black kids oob get into Janney if the school crowded? You know Janney well and can make educated guesses for that school, but since the other schools are only miles apart, how about: " I suspect the same goes for Key, Mann and Murch". Or did most white parents with adopted black kids end up in Janney?
I'd say Murch has lots of OOB kids and the huge gap reflects it.

Older siblings who got in years ago when it was easier?

And all this happened to Janney, one of the most in demand and crowded schools?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So where is the achievement gap below 40 or 50%?

At Oyster-Adams, the black/white achievement gap in ELA is 12%; however it’s 32% in math.

There is essentially no black/white achievement gap at Ross: 4% in ELA and 0% in Math. DCPS needs to bottle and replicate whatever is going on at Ross!

I wonder—are the black kids at Ross high SES or something? Since we know a lot of this boils down to SES differences?

Probably, but aren’t most of the black kids at Janney, Key, Mann, Murch, etc...also high SES? Those schools all have much larger achievement gaps than Ross.

No. I have 3 kids at Janney. The black kid population is probably only 25% middle to high SES (and some of this 25% is black kids adopted by white neighborhood families). The rest (75%) of the black kids are out of boundary
and lower (to very low) SES. And because it's Janney the the gulf between high and low is HUGE. To buy in AU Park now you have to afford 1.2 million+. The families in the younger grades are all really wealthy--they're no longer even dual feds, they're law partners.
The economic gulf between them and the black kids coming from across the park is massive.

How do you know all the black kid’s SES? Sounds like a lot of prejudging. I have a lot of black friends OOB at Janney. My son’s best friend is black rising 5th. All of his black peers that come to his birthday party come from two HHI families with great jobs. Live in Shepherd Park, Crestwood, 16th St Heights.