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Anonymous wrote:There's so much UVA hate on this board. Super weird. This was just a thread announcing that UVA results are out tomorrow and it immediately turns into pointless bashing.

UVa has become out of reach for many hard-working instate students and that makes me sad. Instead, they take money from internationals and out-of-staters. They have done little change that. I’m an alum.

Maybe they should increase the class size.

The grounds can’t handle it. They need to increase in-state admission. They also need to expand offerings online. That is what a board member did, even going as far as to get Teresa Sullivan the boot. She was reinstated after the snobs got her back in. Let’s make UVa, a supposed public university for the students of Virginia, elite again.

That is a strange re-telling of what happened with Teresa Sullivan. When the BOV tries to plan and make back room deals with outside interests WITHOUT the president of the school, s$&t will hit the fan. UVA takes less state money every year because Richmond keeps cutting funding. UVA is 70% instate students with a huge endowment. I will not be surprised if they go private sooner than later as they become more financially independent from the state.

Then they need to pony up the cash.

Nope, the state will never let The Lawn or Rotunda go. It's state property.

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Anonymous wrote:There's so much UVA hate on this board. Super weird. This was just a thread announcing that UVA results are out tomorrow and it immediately turns into pointless bashing.

UVa has become out of reach for many hard-working instate students and that makes me sad. Instead, they take money from internationals and out-of-staters. They have done little change that. I’m an alum.

Maybe they should increase the class size.

The grounds can’t handle it. They need to increase in-state admission. They also need to expand offerings online. That is what a board member did, even going as far as to get Teresa Sullivan the boot. She was reinstated after the snobs got her back in. Let’s make UVa, a supposed public university for the students of Virginia, elite again.

That is a strange re-telling of what happened with Teresa Sullivan. When the BOV tries to plan and make back room deals with outside interests WITHOUT the president of the school, s$&t will hit the fan. UVA takes less state money every year because Richmond keeps cutting funding. UVA is 70% instate students with a huge endowment. I will not be surprised if they go private sooner than later as they become more financially independent from the state.

Then they need to pony up the cash.

Nope, the state will never let The Lawn or Rotunda go. It's state property.

UVA receives only 6% of its budget from the Commonwealth of Virginia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:The guidance counselors in my school district go out of their way to discourage students from applying to UVa because the chances have gotten so slim. A superintendant actually implied that the stress from trying to get in was causing serious mental health problems.

40% admissions rate. The links that get shared here all the time show that Fairfax and London have higher admissions rates than the state average.

No. Admissions rate for EA class of 2022 was only 27.8%. https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-releases-early-action-decisions-spawning-social-media-tsunami

That's the overall rate. They have different numbers for Virginia and out of state.

2017: http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2017/03/unofficial-uva21-admission-statistics.html

^^ You are citing to spring 2017 figures. The admissions rate for EA 1028 is only 27.8%. http://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2018/01/uva-accepts-27-8-percent-of-early-action-applicants-for-class-of-2022

Why do you keep linking to a student newspaper when we have numbers right from the admissions blog?

Because you are citing to an old admissions blog containing a chart of 2016 results. The school paper is more current and simply reports what admissions tells them. The admissions landscape is changing so fast at all schools that you cannot rely on two year old statistics.

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Trying that again.

Because you are citing to an old admissions blog containing a chart of 2016 results. The school paper is more current and simply reports what admissions tells them. The admissions landscape is changing so fast at all schools that you cannot rely on two year old statistics.

But then I posted the early numbers from the blog and you still cited the student paper, which doesn't break the numbers down by residence. The overall rate is useless. Stop pointing to it.

One more time:
http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/01/unoffic...2-early-action-statistics.html

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Anonymous wrote:There's so much UVA hate on this board. Super weird. This was just a thread announcing that UVA results are out tomorrow and it immediately turns into pointless bashing.

UVa has become out of reach for many hard-working instate students and that makes me sad. Instead, they take money from internationals and out-of-staters. They have done little change that. I’m an alum.

Maybe they should increase the class size.

The grounds can’t handle it. They need to increase in-state admission. They also need to expand offerings online. That is what a board member did, even going as far as to get Teresa Sullivan the boot. She was reinstated after the snobs got her back in. Let’s make UVa, a supposed public university for the students of Virginia, elite again.

That is a strange re-telling of what happened with Teresa Sullivan. When the BOV tries to plan and make back room deals with outside interests WITHOUT the president of the school, s$&t will hit the fan. UVA takes less state money every year because Richmond keeps cutting funding. UVA is 70% instate students with a huge endowment. I will not be surprised if they go private sooner than later as they become more financially independent from the state.

Then they need to pony up the cash.

Nope, the state will never let The Lawn or Rotunda go. It's state property.

UVA receives only 6% of its budget from the Commonwealth of Virginia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Virginia

I’m well aware of that; it doesn’t change the fact that the property is owned by the state. UVa will never be able to buy out all of the property from the state.

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Anonymous wrote:Trying that again.

Because you are citing to an old admissions blog containing a chart of 2016 results. The school paper is more current and simply reports what admissions tells them. The admissions landscape is changing so fast at all schools that you cannot rely on two year old statistics.

But then I posted the early numbers from the blog and you still cited the student paper, which doesn't break the numbers down by residence. The overall rate is useless. Stop pointing to it.

One more time:
http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2018/01/unoffic...2-early-action-statistics.html

There's no link there.

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Anonymous wrote:There's so much UVA hate on this board. Super weird. This was just a thread announcing that UVA results are out tomorrow and it immediately turns into pointless bashing.

UVa has become out of reach for many hard-working instate students and that makes me sad. Instead, they take money from internationals and out-of-staters. They have done little change that. I’m an alum.

Maybe they should increase the class size.

The grounds can’t handle it. They need to increase in-state admission. They also need to expand offerings online. That is what a board member did, even going as far as to get Teresa Sullivan the boot. She was reinstated after the snobs got her back in. Let’s make UVa, a supposed public university for the students of Virginia, elite again.

That is a strange re-telling of what happened with Teresa Sullivan. When the BOV tries to plan and make back room deals with outside interests WITHOUT the president of the school, s$&t will hit the fan. UVA takes less state money every year because Richmond keeps cutting funding. UVA is 70% instate students with a huge endowment. I will not be surprised if they go private sooner than later as they become more financially independent from the state.

Then they need to pony up the cash.

Nope, the state will never let The Lawn or Rotunda go. It's state property.

UVA receives only 6% of its budget from the Commonwealth of Virginia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Virginia

I’m well aware of that; it doesn’t change the fact that the property is owned by the state. UVa will never be able to buy out all of the property from the state.

Lol, but the point is, Virginia (and residents) can bitch and moan all they want about increasing in-state residents. UVA likely will not do so.

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Anonymous wrote:There's so much UVA hate on this board. Super weird. This was just a thread announcing that UVA results are out tomorrow and it immediately turns into pointless bashing.

UVa has become out of reach for many hard-working instate students and that makes me sad. Instead, they take money from internationals and out-of-staters. They have done little change that. I’m an alum.

Maybe they should increase the class size.

The grounds can’t handle it. They need to increase in-state admission. They also need to expand offerings online. That is what a board member did, even going as far as to get Teresa Sullivan the boot. She was reinstated after the snobs got her back in. Let’s make UVa, a supposed public university for the students of Virginia, elite again.

That is a strange re-telling of what happened with Teresa Sullivan. When the BOV tries to plan and make back room deals with outside interests WITHOUT the president of the school, s$&t will hit the fan. UVA takes less state money every year because Richmond keeps cutting funding. UVA is 70% instate students with a huge endowment. I will not be surprised if they go private sooner than later as they become more financially independent from the state.

Then they need to pony up the cash.

Nope, the state will never let The Lawn or Rotunda go. It's state property.

UVA receives only 6% of its budget from the Commonwealth of Virginia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Virginia

I’m well aware of that; it doesn’t change the fact that the property is owned by the state. UVa will never be able to buy out all of the property from the state.

Lol, but the point is, Virginia (and residents) can bitch and moan all they want about increasing in-state residents. UVA likely will not do so.

No, because it wants its flagship to compete with UCLA And Berkeley. Here UVA is ranked no 1 in public flagships. Above Michigan, UCLA and Berkeley. Why wouldn't UVA's flagship want to compete on that level since it can? http://www.businessinsider.com/best-public-colleges-in-the-united-states-2016-8#2-university-of-michigan-at-ann-arbor-13. There are over 40 other fine public institutions in Virginia from which to choose. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colleges_and_universities_in_Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:There's so much UVA hate on this board. Super weird. This was just a thread announcing that UVA results are out tomorrow and it immediately turns into pointless bashing.

UVa has become out of reach for many hard-working instate students and that makes me sad. Instead, they take money from internationals and out-of-staters. They have done little change that. I’m an alum.

UVA is still 2/3s in-state students. That hasn’t changed. And it’s actually still harder for OOS and international students to get in than it is for in-state. It has become harder for in-state students because there are more of them applying every year. The same is true for literally every school across the country.

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Anonymous wrote:There's so much UVA hate on this board. Super weird. This was just a thread announcing that UVA results are out tomorrow and it immediately turns into pointless bashing.

UVa has become out of reach for many hard-working instate students and that makes me sad. Instead, they take money from internationals and out-of-staters. They have done little change that. I’m an alum.

UVA is still 2/3s in-state students. That hasn’t changed. And it’s actually still harder for OOS and international students to get in than it is for in-state. It has become harder for in-state students because there are more of them applying every year. The same is true for literally every school across the country.

That is not what we are arguing here. We are pointing out that UVA has not kept up with avid ginia’s population growth. If it wants to claim that it is a public university, then it damn well better start acting like one or go private. Instead, it’s using its status as a top public institution to draw in elite money and elite students. It is also using a publicly on property to do the same.

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Anonymous wrote:There's so much UVA hate on this board. Super weird. This was just a thread announcing that UVA results are out tomorrow and it immediately turns into pointless bashing.

UVa has become out of reach for many hard-working instate students and that makes me sad. Instead, they take money from internationals and out-of-staters. They have done little change that. I’m an alum.

UVA is still 2/3s in-state students. That hasn’t changed. And it’s actually still harder for OOS and international students to get in than it is for in-state. It has become harder for in-state students because there are more of them applying every year. The same is true for literally every school across the country.

That is not what we are arguing here. We are pointing out that UVA has not kept up with avid ginia’s population growth. If it wants to claim that it is a public university, then it damn well better start acting like one or go private. Instead, it’s using its status as a top public institution to draw in elite money and elite students. It is also using a publicly on property to do the same.

NP. I'm genuinely curiously by what you mean by this. Do you have statistics, information, anything to back this, or is it based off perception?

Also, have you been to Charlottesville/on the UVA Grounds? It's a pretty crammed in area as it is. There's literally nowhere to expand without maintaining the integrity of the school.

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Anonymous wrote:There's so much UVA hate on this board. Super weird. This was just a thread announcing that UVA results are out tomorrow and it immediately turns into pointless bashing.

UVa has become out of reach for many hard-working instate students and that makes me sad. Instead, they take money from internationals and out-of-staters. They have done little change that. I’m an alum.

UVA is still 2/3s in-state students. That hasn’t changed. And it’s actually still harder for OOS and international students to get in than it is for in-state. It has become harder for in-state students because there are more of them applying every year. The same is true for literally every school across the country.

That is not what we are arguing here. We are pointing out that UVA has not kept up with avid ginia’s population growth. If it wants to claim that it is a public university, then it damn well better start acting like one or go private. Instead, it’s using its status as a top public institution to draw in elite money and elite students. It is also using a publicly on property to do the same.

NP. I'm genuinely curiously by what you mean by this. Do you have statistics, information, anything to back this, or is it based off perception?

Also, have you been to Charlottesville/on the UVA Grounds? It's a pretty crammed in area as it is. There's literally nowhere to expand without maintaining the integrity of the school.

Agree. I have a third year there. His first year dorm was hideous - right out of the GI Bill fugly. There is no more room. Also, why shouldn't UVA act like UCLA and Berkeley and bring in diversity, OOS, low-income and international students, as it is doing. There are 40 other public universities in the state to meet all needs.

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Anonymous wrote:There's so much UVA hate on this board. Super weird. This was just a thread announcing that UVA results are out tomorrow and it immediately turns into pointless bashing.

UVa has become out of reach for many hard-working instate students and that makes me sad. Instead, they take money from internationals and out-of-staters. They have done little change that. I’m an alum.

UVA is still 2/3s in-state students. That hasn’t changed. And it’s actually still harder for OOS and international students to get in than it is for in-state. It has become harder for in-state students because there are more of them applying every year. The same is true for literally every school across the country.

That is not what we are arguing here. We are pointing out that UVA has not kept up with avid ginia’s population growth. If it wants to claim that it is a public university, then it damn well better start acting like one or go private. Instead, it’s using its status as a top public institution to draw in elite money and elite students. It is also using a publicly on property to do the same.

That's exactly what UVA should be doing. For the instate kids who can't measure up, there are plenty of other public options (JMU, VCU, etc).

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Anonymous wrote:There's so much UVA hate on this board. Super weird. This was just a thread announcing that UVA results are out tomorrow and it immediately turns into pointless bashing.

UVa has become out of reach for many hard-working instate students and that makes me sad. Instead, they take money from internationals and out-of-staters. They have done little change that. I’m an alum.

UVA is still 2/3s in-state students. That hasn’t changed. And it’s actually still harder for OOS and international students to get in than it is for in-state. It has become harder for in-state students because there are more of them applying every year. The same is true for literally every school across the country.

That is not what we are arguing here. We are pointing out that UVA has not kept up with avid ginia’s population growth. If it wants to claim that it is a public university, then it damn well better start acting like one or go private. Instead, it’s using its status as a top public institution to draw in elite money and elite students. It is also using a publicly on property to do the same.

That's exactly what UVA should be doing. For the instate kids who can't measure up, there are plenty of other public options (JMU, VCU, etc).

Exactly. That's why the Commonwealth provide only 6% of UVA's budget but is pumping in $42 million a year into GMU and the other 40 public universities in VA. If parents could just get beyond the "my kid has to go to UVA or W&M" mode of thinking, they would realize there are an amazing amount of college and university choices in VA with instate rates. I know six families at at Christopher Newport and have been thrilled with the quality of education their children have received. Same with the other colleges and universities

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Anonymous wrote:There's so much UVA hate on this board. Super weird. This was just a thread announcing that UVA results are out tomorrow and it immediately turns into pointless bashing.

UVa has become out of reach for many hard-working instate students and that makes me sad. Instead, they take money from internationals and out-of-staters. They have done little change that. I’m an alum.

UVA is still 2/3s in-state students. That hasn’t changed. And it’s actually still harder for OOS and international students to get in than it is for in-state. It has become harder for in-state students because there are more of them applying every year. The same is true for literally every school across the country.

That is not what we are arguing here. We are pointing out that UVA has not kept up with avid ginia’s population growth. If it wants to claim that it is a public university, then it damn well better start acting like one or go private. Instead, it’s using its status as a top public institution to draw in elite money and elite students. It is also using a publicly on property to do the same.

NP. I'm genuinely curiously by what you mean by this. Do you have statistics, information, anything to back this, or is it based off perception?

Also, have you been to Charlottesville/on the UVA Grounds? It's a pretty crammed in area as it is. There's literally nowhere to expand without maintaining the integrity of the school.

Agree. I have a third year there. His first year dorm was hideous - right out of the GI Bill fugly. There is no more room. Also, why shouldn't UVA act like UCLA and Berkeley and bring in diversity, OOS, low-income and international students, as it is doing. There are 40 other public universities in the state to meet all needs.

Lol, I'm assuming your third year was in Old Dorms, which my first year is in now! FWIW, they're currently in the process of renovating all the Old Dorms. They're going to be really nice with that same beautiful exterior and the great location.