If the service academies are so prestigious, why are they never discussed on DCUM?

[Anonymous]

Isn’t the current model to go to an ivy, then ocs/rotc?

Get your 5 years in, nice line on your resume for future political office?

Moulton, lamb, Amy chua’s Daughter all followed this model

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The thought of you with a gun (i.e., military training) scares me. So much judgement and anger. wow
Tolerance does not equal sniveling
Some of us prefer civilized problem-solving over brute force

That's why you sit in the safe zone while the alphas deal with reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In this area it’s next to impossible to get in, especially to West Point and Annapolis, because of the nomination restrictions. I know someone who was actively recruited by one of those, and the nomination slots for VA were gone. The student was set to go elsewhere, but the academy wanted them enough that they called the VPs office and secured a nomination for the student that way. It makes getting into Harvard look easy.

It’s also a very different college experience, and not the one most kids are thinking about.

This is one of the biggest issues with the service academies. They only take a limited number of nominations from each state and either you have to be a state champion athlete or have be a stellar student. We are in a "W" school and my DS knows several very bright kids who wanted to go, but they get so many applications from the state of Maryland (particularly the Naval Academy) that it's next to impossible to get into.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t the current model to go to an ivy, then ocs/rotc?

Get your 5 years in, nice line on your resume for future political office?

Moulton, lamb, Amy chua’s Daughter all followed this model

Yup. What sort of control do you have over the 5 year commitment though? What are you paid from age 22-27? Can you pursue grad or professional (JD/MD) during that time? Are you super likely to be deploy to a conflict zone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this area it’s next to impossible to get in, especially to West Point and Annapolis, because of the nomination restrictions. I know someone who was actively recruited by one of those, and the nomination slots for VA were gone. The student was set to go elsewhere, but the academy wanted them enough that they called the VPs office and secured a nomination for the student that way. It makes getting into Harvard look easy.

It’s also a very different college experience, and not the one most kids are thinking about.

This is one of the biggest issues with the service academies. They only take a limited number of nominations from each state and either you have to be a state champion athlete or have be a stellar student. We are in a "W" school and my DS knows several very bright kids who wanted to go, but they get so many applications from the state of Maryland (particularly the Naval Academy) that it's next to impossible to get into.

When it comes to the recommendation process (not the actual admissions) I believe that each congressional seat gets the same # of recommendations. There are some districts where becoming an officer is just not a very popular endeavor or there aren't many qualified applicants and so it's a LOT easier to make it onto the recommendation list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because they are even more possible to get into than HYPS. You can only get in if you have connections. If you have connections, no point in discussing that here.

Not true! My child got in, from NoVa area, no military connection in past whatsoever, no political connection as well.

[Anonymous]

^she got to Ivies too, and it is true, it is much easier to get into Ivy than West Point ( in our case).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this area it’s next to impossible to get in, especially to West Point and Annapolis, because of the nomination restrictions. I know someone who was actively recruited by one of those, and the nomination slots for VA were gone. The student was set to go elsewhere, but the academy wanted them enough that they called the VPs office and secured a nomination for the student that way. It makes getting into Harvard look easy.

It’s also a very different college experience, and not the one most kids are thinking about.

This is one of the biggest issues with the service academies. They only take a limited number of nominations from each state and either you have to be a state champion athlete or have be a stellar student. We are in a "W" school and my DS knows several very bright kids who wanted to go, but they get so many applications from the state of Maryland (particularly the Naval Academy) that it's next to impossible to get into.

This. They are extremely difficult to get in and only via nomination and the teenager has to be extremely motivated.

[Anonymous]

DCUM user demographics skew liberal, democratic, anti-military.

[Anonymous]

Service academy grads have big egos

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thought of you with a gun (i.e., military training) scares me. So much judgement and anger. wow
Tolerance does not equal sniveling
Some of us prefer civilized problem-solving over brute force

That's why you sit in the safe zone while the alphas deal with reality.

LOL. Let me guess... You alpha? like our president??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thought of you with a gun (i.e., military training) scares me. So much judgement and anger. wow
Tolerance does not equal sniveling
Some of us prefer civilized problem-solving over brute force

That's why you sit in the safe zone while the alphas deal with reality.

Which branch of the military did you serve in? What was your rank? At what location during which year?

[Anonymous]

Coast Guard does not require a nomination. It's a great branch for quality of life as well. Our Ffx high school sent someone last year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thought of you with a gun (i.e., military training) scares me. So much judgement and anger. wow
Tolerance does not equal sniveling
Some of us prefer civilized problem-solving over brute force

That's why you sit in the safe zone while the alphas deal with reality.

You are welcome to get in line ahead of me, my friend. Along with everyone else clamoring to join the armed forces to get shot at and either get killed or return home with PTSD while I Netflix and chill. You only live once and I'm not spending that defending a bunch of thankless people "back home" fighting a war I don't agree with. Neither will my children.

Oh, you can actually change your name to Alpha at a court house if that makes you feel better..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The thought of you with a gun (i.e., military training) scares me. So much judgement and anger. wow
Tolerance does not equal sniveling
Some of us prefer civilized problem-solving over brute force

That's why you sit in the safe zone while the alphas deal with reality.

You are welcome to get in line ahead of me, my friend. Along with everyone else clamoring to join the armed forces to get shot at and either get killed or return home with PTSD while I Netflix and chill. You only live once and I'm not spending that defending a bunch of thankless people "back home" fighting a war I don't agree with. Neither will my children.

Oh, you can actually change your name to Alpha at a court house if that makes you feel better..

You couldn't if you wanted to. It's good to know your limitations.