An excellent analysis of one of the key factors that cost Hillary the election

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I wish it were wrong. It's not, and you are naive or underinformed or not well traveled in the US if you don't know that.

PP to whom you are replying. No. You are the one who is underinformed. For the record, I am extremely well traveled and have lived in a number of places in the US and abroad.

Sure, there are racists--but to say that most Republicans are sympathetic with KKK and racist is just dead wrong. It shows that you live in a bubble if you really think that. And, I ask you again to examine the statistics and see who is committing the most crimes against minorities. (Hint, it's not Republicans--in fact, it's not even the KKK.)

Oh, come on. You're missing the most obvious factor behind that stale GOP "who commits the most crimes against minorities" meme.

Crimes are committed within communities. Blacks commit violence against other blacks in their own community, whites commit violence against other whites in their own community.

You aren't even a master of the obvious. You are way out of your depth here.

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Anonymous wrote:Really was horrible that Hillary set such a bad example by calling people with different political opinions "deplorable." Now she's got half of the liberal sheep doing the same thing. They think it's smart to double down on the behavior that cost them the election. So stupid.

KKK = "different political opinion"

Stick your head in the ground, deplorable.

Oh sweetie, you are not making sense. Try the remedial English course at the rec center. You can be helped

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Anonymous wrote:

I wish it were wrong. It's not, and you are naive or underinformed or not well traveled in the US if you don't know that.

PP to whom you are replying. No. You are the one who is underinformed. For the record, I am extremely well traveled and have lived in a number of places in the US and abroad.

Sure, there are racists--but to say that most Republicans are sympathetic with KKK and racist is just dead wrong. It shows that you live in a bubble if you really think that. And, I ask you again to examine the statistics and see who is committing the most crimes against minorities. (Hint, it's not Republicans--in fact, it's not even the KKK.)

Oh, come on. You're missing the most obvious factor behind that stale GOP "who commits the most crimes against minorities" meme.

Crimes are committed within communities. Blacks commit violence against other blacks in their own community, whites commit violence against other whites in their own community.

You aren't even a master of the obvious. You are way out of your depth here.

But more blacks commit crimes against whites than whites. I am white and have had three crimes committed against me -- all by black men. Anecdotal but based in fact

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Anonymous wrote:I have lived in 3 of those states. People are really really intolerant of different people. It is scary.

I lived in pa. Lived there for forty years. People are very warm. I grew up when Vietnamese were welcomed at ft indiantown gap. All the churches helped place the immigrants

What people don't like is the overwhelming immigration when there're are not enough jobs Is that so hard for educated elites in Bethesda to understand????

Hillary Clinton had a plan to add jobs and it was up on her website - trump said he did but no one has seen it. trump and the Republicans have been in power for 10 months and there is no jobs bill nor immigration bill.

Illegal Immigrants are NOT - nor have ever - taken American jobs. Fruit is rotting on the trees because undocumented seasonal worker are afraid to reenter the US. Illegal Immigrants were just the Republicans ploy to create a boogeyman and it worked. Worked in prewar Germany under Hitler too.

Well, now, if there was a job plan on Hillary's website, we know it was fantastic, because no one has every posted crap on a website.

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Anonymous wrote:This remains a challenge for the Democrats: how to be tolerant and accepting of immigrants who form a key part of their support but not to alienate most of middle America who are white and still represent the majority of the voters.

The key might be not being tolerant of ILLEGAL immigration. People all over this country are very tolerant of people of different races. “White middle America,” as you call it, are not tolerant of illegal immigrants.

Do you live in the same America as I do?

And, as the child of legal immigrants who grew up right next to one of the areas discussed in that article, I disagree with your assessment that "White middle America" is tolerant of legal immigration of non-whites.

There are great things about the US...and in many ways we are a more tolerant society than most. But there is rampant racism and xenophobia in this country as well. Ask any non-white, wherever they grew up, and they will tell you.

go back to your culture then.

come one, I am tired of immigrants coming here and talking about how good their home culture is. GO home then.

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Anonymous wrote:This remains a challenge for the Democrats: how to be tolerant and accepting of immigrants who form a key part of their support but not to alienate most of middle America who are white and still represent the majority of the voters.

"Our review and analysis of the best available evidence indicates that the supply of STEM-potential and STEM-educated students has remained strong and appears to be quite responsive to standard economic signals...The immigration debate is complicated and polarizing, but the implications of the data for enacting high-skill guestworker policy are clear: Immigration policies that facilitate large flows of guestworkers will supply labor at wages that are too low to induce significant increases in supply from the domestic workforce"--Guestworkers in the High-Skill U.S. Labor Market, EPI, 2013

Hillary wanted to triple the H1B limits and wanted to give amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants.

She was NEVER a friend of the working middle class.

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Anonymous wrote:This remains a challenge for the Democrats: how to be tolerant and accepting of immigrants who form a key part of their support but not to alienate most of middle America who are white and still represent the majority of the voters.

"Our review and analysis of the best available evidence indicates that the supply of STEM-potential and STEM-educated students has remained strong and appears to be quite responsive to standard economic signals...The immigration debate is complicated and polarizing, but the implications of the data for enacting high-skill guestworker policy are clear: Immigration policies that facilitate large flows of guestworkers will supply labor at wages that are too low to induce significant increases in supply from the domestic workforce"--Guestworkers in the High-Skill U.S. Labor Market, EPI, 2013

Hillary wanted to triple the H1B limits and wanted to give amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants.

She was NEVER a friend of the working middle class.

So building a wall is the solution that satisfies you?

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Hillary was a real leader. Looking out for Indian h1bs before us workers. She was a friend of the Indian working class in india

I cannot fathom why us workers did not vote for her

https://youtu.be/AOW0cUaGWZU

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This remains a challenge for the Democrats: how to be tolerant and accepting of immigrants who form a key part of their support but not to alienate most of middle America who are white and still represent the majority of the voters.

The key might be not being tolerant of ILLEGAL immigration. People all over this country are very tolerant of people of different races. “White middle America,” as you call it, are not tolerant of illegal immigrants.

Do you live in the same America as I do?

And, as the child of legal immigrants who grew up right next to one of the areas discussed in that article, I disagree with your assessment that "White middle America" is tolerant of legal immigration of non-whites.

There are great things about the US...and in many ways we are a more tolerant society than most. But there is rampant racism and xenophobia in this country as well. Ask any non-white, wherever they grew up, and they will tell you.

DP. Would you mind please identifying a few of the countries that are more racially tolerant and less xenophobic than the US? Just curious.

Try being an Afghan refugee in Portugal and then Germany. When I got to the US and no one called me "hijab c**t," I was very pleased.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This remains a challenge for the Democrats: how to be tolerant and accepting of immigrants who form a key part of their support but not to alienate most of middle America who are white and still represent the majority of the voters.

The key might be not being tolerant of ILLEGAL immigration. People all over this country are very tolerant of people of different races. “White middle America,” as you call it, are not tolerant of illegal immigrants.

Do you live in the same America as I do?

And, as the child of legal immigrants who grew up right next to one of the areas discussed in that article, I disagree with your assessment that "White middle America" is tolerant of legal immigration of non-whites.

There are great things about the US...and in many ways we are a more tolerant society than most. But there is rampant racism and xenophobia in this country as well. Ask any non-white, wherever they grew up, and they will tell you.

go back to your culture then.

come one, I am tired of immigrants coming here and talking about how good their home culture is. GO home then.

LIkely the immigrant child poster is Indian and her parents were part of the first wave of Indian brain drain in the 1970s. They were lured to small towns where few people had seen an Indian or knew anything about them. The physician parent was tolerated because "good Old Doc Jones" retired and no one would come to BFE to replace him. Of course, the poster was a target of discrimination. She was the oddity and people probably also resented that her parent earned more money than they could. BTDT

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This remains a challenge for the Democrats: how to be tolerant and accepting of immigrants who form a key part of their support but not to alienate most of middle America who are white and still represent the majority of the voters.

The key might be not being tolerant of ILLEGAL immigration. People all over this country are very tolerant of people of different races. “White middle America,” as you call it, are not tolerant of illegal immigrants.

Do you live in the same America as I do?

And, as the child of legal immigrants who grew up right next to one of the areas discussed in that article, I disagree with your assessment that "White middle America" is tolerant of legal immigration of non-whites.

There are great things about the US...and in many ways we are a more tolerant society than most. But there is rampant racism and xenophobia in this country as well. Ask any non-white, wherever they grew up, and they will tell you.

go back to your culture then.

come one, I am tired of immigrants coming here and talking about how good their home culture is. GO home then.

FU, I'm not an immigrant!! I was born in the midwest. I am no more and no less American than anyone else born in the US. That's what makes this country great, and that's what all the coded anti-birthright citizenship discussion is talking about destroying. If you want ethno-nationalism, you go back to Europe to the cultural homogeneity many of the initial colonists were fleeing.

And, in case you have difficulty comprehending written English, nothing in my post talked about my parents home culture being better than the US. I said Americans are also racist. Just because other countries are more racist doesn't mean we are not racist. Don't know about you, but I thought the point of America was not just to be better but to be the best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hillary was a real leader. Looking out for Indian h1bs before us workers. She was a friend of the Indian working class in india

I cannot fathom why us workers did not vote for her

https://youtu.be/AOW0cUaGWZU

Trump hired tons of foreign labor for his resorts while stiffing American workers for those jobs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hillary was a real leader. Looking out for Indian h1bs before us workers. She was a friend of the Indian working class in india

I cannot fathom why us workers did not vote for her

https://youtu.be/AOW0cUaGWZU

Trump hired tons of foreign labor for his resorts while stiffing American workers for those jobs.

You fool. The Republicans don't actually need to follow the rules they implement. Rules are just for the rubes.

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Anonymous wrote:This remains a challenge for the Democrats: how to be tolerant and accepting of immigrants who form a key part of their support but not to alienate most of middle America who are white and still represent the majority of the voters.

Well, for starters, you don't call anyone who disagrees with you "deplorable".

Stop living up to the insult, then.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This remains a challenge for the Democrats: how to be tolerant and accepting of immigrants who form a key part of their support but not to alienate most of middle America who are white and still represent the majority of the voters.

Well, for starters, you don't call anyone who disagrees with you "deplorable".

Stop living up to the insult, then.

+1

It wouldn't bother them so much if it wasn't true.