Take a knee during Pledge of Allegiance in VA Elementary school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Friday night the kids at the high school said a prayer before the game. Over the PA system. Then the band played he anthem. Everyone stood.

God I love the South !

Sounds like a sh1thole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is that "taking a knee" now is no longer about the flag, it's about the president. To everyone who whines about athletes disrespecting the flag, I respond, "no, they're disrespecting Trump. As is their right as citiziens. And, by the way, he deserves it."

They can say it's about the president, but they are thumbing their nose at the flag and the country. This is not the way to protest the president. They are essentially giving the finger to the flag and those who fought for it.

You can try to spin it--but that is what they are doing.

That is what Kapernick did, as well, when he was protesting the police. Go out and say whatever you like, but he gave his finger to the Americans who fought and died for him.

Yes.

On the note of K and the nfl, the nfl has a league regulation that all players are to stand repsectfully and quietly on the sidelines with their helmet by their sides when the national anthem plays, or be subject to fines and/or suspensions, even on first offenses. This should have been shut down day one.

6-7 years ago NFL players were still in the locker room during the anthem. It was only when the military started sponsoring flyovers and stuff like that when they were hurdled onto the field.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is that "taking a knee" now is no longer about the flag, it's about the president. To everyone who whines about athletes disrespecting the flag, I respond, "no, they're disrespecting Trump. As is their right as citiziens. And, by the way, he deserves it."

They can say it's about the president, but they are thumbing their nose at the flag and the country. This is not the way to protest the president. They are essentially giving the finger to the flag and those who fought for it.

You can try to spin it--but that is what they are doing.

That is what Kapernick did, as well, when he was protesting the police. Go out and say whatever you like, but he gave his finger to the Americans who fought and died for him.

Yes.

On the note of K and the nfl, the nfl has a league regulation that all players are to stand repsectfully and quietly on the sidelines with their helmet by their sides when the national anthem plays, or be subject to fines and/or suspensions, even on first offenses. This should have been shut down day one.

Hmm. I'm not sure you can contractually give up freedom of speech. It just hadn't come up before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is that "taking a knee" now is no longer about the flag, it's about the president. To everyone who whines about athletes disrespecting the flag, I respond, "no, they're disrespecting Trump. As is their right as citiziens. And, by the way, he deserves it."

They can say it's about the president, but they are thumbing their nose at the flag and the country. This is not the way to protest the president. They are essentially giving the finger to the flag and those who fought for it.

You can try to spin it--but that is what they are doing.

That is what Kapernick did, as well, when he was protesting the police. Go out and say whatever you like, but he gave his finger to the Americans who fought and died for him.

You will not dictate the proper way to protest. Do you understand that? The President of the United States does not dictate the proper way to protest.

If you don't like it, turn off the TV or don't watch the NFL. A lot of outraged wingers demanded that yesterday, but I predict ratings will be extremely high yesterday.

And don't tell African-Americans about people who fought and died for them when LEO are gunning them down in the streets with alarming frequency.

[Anonymous]

I just had a talk with my MoCo 3rd grader yesterday about what all this means.

It occurred to me that he might see another child do this during the pledge, and that at some point he might choose to do it himself. I have zero issue with that (actually I'd be proud of him, but it would have to come on his own). That said, he needs to be able to explain on his own terms why he would make that choice; it doesn't have to be perfect, but it needs to hit on a main theme of justice for all/peaceful call to attention/solidarity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem is that "taking a knee" now is no longer about the flag, it's about the president. To everyone who whines about athletes disrespecting the flag, I respond, "no, they're disrespecting Trump. As is their right as citiziens. And, by the way, he deserves it."

They can say it's about the president, but they are thumbing their nose at the flag and the country. This is not the way to protest the president. They are essentially giving the finger to the flag and those who fought for it.

You can try to spin it--but that is what they are doing.

That is what Kapernick did, as well, when he was protesting the police. Go out and say whatever you like, but he gave his finger to the Americans who fought and died for him.

Yes.

On the note of K and the nfl, the nfl has a league regulation that all players are to stand repsectfully and quietly on the sidelines with their helmet by their sides when the national anthem plays, or be subject to fines and/or suspensions, even on first offenses. This should have been shut down day one.

Hmm. I'm not sure you can contractually give up freedom of speech. It just hadn't come up before.

They are not giving up free speech. They are agreeing to specific behaviors while in uniform and while on the clock.

Just like military members in uniform can get disciplines for posting bible verses on their work cubbies. Or teachers can get disciplined for handing out Hillary buttons to their students. Or how NFL players can get fined for wearing addias during any interview. Or Disney park "cast members" can be hired specifically for their appearance, including skin eye and hair color.

It is in the NFL handbook how players are supposed to behave while in uniform and on the clock while the national anthem plays.

For 12 million dollars/year they need to follow the rules they agreed upon when signing their contract.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Friday night the kids at the high school said a prayer before the game. Over the PA system. Then the band played he anthem. Everyone stood.

God I love the South !

Sounds like a sh1thole.

Funniest thing is Trump made these inflammatory remarks in Alabama, which is, what, 350 miles from New Orleans, the closest venue with an NFL team?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The pledge is creepy. I stopped saying it as soon as I learned I could stop. I told my kids they could choose. I feel like it's an unnecessary indoctrination for little kids.

As if kids have the history, knowledge, background and perspective to "choose." Be a parent, please

[Anonymous]

This is the stupidest "protest" trend I have ever seen. I have zero problems with someone not saying the pledge. But they must truly be idiots if they think kneeling, a sign of deference and respect, connotes civil disobedience. I would just think a person kneeling was extra-patriotic. GIANT FAIL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Friday night the kids at the high school said a prayer before the game. Over the PA system. Then the band played he anthem. Everyone stood.

God I love the South !

+1000. Me too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the stupidest "protest" trend I have ever seen. I have zero problems with someone not saying the pledge. But they must truly be idiots if they think kneeling, a sign of deference and respect, connotes civil disobedience. I would just think a person kneeling was extra-patriotic. GIANT FAIL.

I know, right? I see "kneel", I think "genuflect to our dear leader".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the stupidest "protest" trend I have ever seen. I have zero problems with someone not saying the pledge. But they must truly be idiots if they think kneeling, a sign of deference and respect, connotes civil disobedience. I would just think a person kneeling was extra-patriotic. GIANT FAIL.

I know, right? I see "kneel", I think "genuflect to our dear leader".

The only person in this whole mess who has shown any courage or conviction is the Pittsburgh Steelers Army Ranger who came out on his own and was the lone player on his team on the field for the national anthem. The rest are sheeple and cowards.

[Anonymous]

This whole thread is so sad to me. Some people truly do not give a shit about our country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is the stupidest "protest" trend I have ever seen. I have zero problems with someone not saying the pledge. But they must truly be idiots if they think kneeling, a sign of deference and respect, connotes civil disobedience. I would just think a person kneeling was extra-patriotic. GIANT FAIL.

I know, right? I see "kneel", I think "genuflect to our dear leader".

The only person in this whole mess who has shown any courage or conviction is the Pittsburgh Steelers Army Ranger who came out on his own and was the lone player on his team on the field for the national anthem. The rest are sheeple and cowards.

Agreed. That guy is a badass.

[Anonymous]

Teacher: Class, please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. Larla, what are you doing on the floor?
Larla: My mom told me to kneel during the pledge.
Teacher: Why?
Larla: