The Poor Poor Middle Class with a 300k HHI

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Anonymous wrote:Which perfectly explains why bipartisan policy makers want to keep a century old immigration regulations the way it is. The affluent ruling class does not want young, highly educated foreigners who speak fluent English, to have advantage in getting legal status om the USA and work in their field of study and specialty, instead of receiving government handouts.

I have a problem with giving jobs to immigrants when we have AMERICANS who are NOT being given job opportunities, which is really the basis of the drug crisis. Foreigners are being "imported" because they will work "cheap" and being hired by their own . EX: Pakistani physics teacher proudly proclaimed how he would hire ANY Pakistani rather than a better qualified American because "Pakistanis should hire their own" , when HE was hired by a white, American. (I work with him- I shouldn't even get started on his hatred of American women)

How do you know this guy is Pakistani and not an American citizen? Did he tell you? If he is American, you do understand he has the same right to a job as any other American right? Regardless of his crappy views, there are no special rules that say brown people should be passed over for jobs so they can go to REAL (read white) Americans. I feel like the "Americans are being passed over for jobs" is a convenient talking point for the anti-immigrant crowd, who probably get all riled up when they see any brown person with a decent job here, but the fact is unemployment is low, and there are many companies who are having trouble filling jobs. There's no point blaming immigrants when most employable people are working now, and the few that are not think the open positions are beneath them or don't want to move for a job.

Immigrants don't have a constitutional right to have access to the United States. Its a privilege not a "RIGHT". The US does not have any obligation to help correct their poverty nor give them access to our educational system. Furthermore your remark about "BROWN" people is hilarious considering that most of these "Indian" and "Arab" immigrants are "WHITE" and and not only tend to be ANTI AMERICAN but Racist towards BLACK AMERICANS. Point is BROWN FOLKS (BLACK AMERICANS) don't have access to entry level jobs in lots of industries because of the influx of "BROWN" people on one end (Hispanics) and Asian Immigrants on the other (Tech workers). So which "Brown' people are you really worried about?

Wow...just wow. Indian and Arabs are white now? And they're all racist and anti-American? Your comment is so full of idiotic reasoning and stereotypes it's pathetic.

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Which perfectly explains why bipartisan policy makers want to keep a century old immigration regulations the way it is. The affluent ruling class does not want young, highly educated foreigners who speak fluent English, to have advantage in getting legal status om the USA and work in their field of study and specialty, instead of receiving government handouts.






I have a problem with giving jobs to immigrants when we have AMERICANS who are NOT being given job opportunities, which is really the basis of the drug crisis. Foreigners are being "imported" because they will work "cheap" and being hired by their own . EX: Pakistani physics teacher proudly proclaimed how he would hire ANY Pakistani rather than a better qualified American because "Pakistanis should hire their own" , when HE was hired by a white, American. (I work with him- I shouldn't even get started on his hatred of American women)


How do you know this guy is Pakistani and not an American citizen? Did he tell you? If he is American, you do understand he has the same right to a job as any other American right? Regardless of his crappy views, there are no special rules that say brown people should be passed over for jobs so they can go to REAL (read white) Americans. I feel like the "Americans are being passed over for jobs" is a convenient talking point for the anti-immigrant crowd, who probably get all riled up when they see any brown person with a decent job here, but the fact is unemployment is low, and there are many companies who are having trouble filling jobs. There's no point blaming immigrants when most employable people are working now, and the few that are not think the open positions are beneath them or don't want to move for a job.


Immigrants don't have a constitutional right to have access to the United States. Its a privilege not a "RIGHT". The US does not have any obligation to help correct their poverty nor give them access to our educational system. Furthermore your remark about "BROWN" people is hilarious considering that most of these "Indian" and "Arab" immigrants are "WHITE" and and not only tend to be ANTI AMERICAN but Racist towards BLACK AMERICANS. Point is BROWN FOLKS (BLACK AMERICANS) don't have access to entry level jobs in lots of industries because of the influx of "BROWN" people on one end (Hispanics) and Asian Immigrants on the other (Tech workers). So which "Brown' people are you really worried about?


Wow...just wow. Indian and Arabs are white now? And they're all racist and anti-American? Your comment is so full of idiotic reasoning and stereotypes it's pathetic.

Not the PP, but I think you need to read that post and think about it a little. Because somehow Trump got elected and I think it had something to do with this issue. We have parts of America with substandard educational systems and a lot of people who cannot get paying jobs. Many of them have turned to opiates. Meanwhile we have many successful immigrants who got good educations in their countries. Most of them cannot vote (green cards, worker visas). So are we going to help those people who voted? Are we going to get them a better education and health care, etc.? Can we get them the better food that costs less?

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Anonymous wrote:6 dollar bread is not obscene

It's obscene to think there's something wrong with eating healthily.

What I wonder is why we need this "healthy" bread. Millions of Europeans buy fresh bread every morning. most of it white bread. I don't know what their internal health is, but most are not overweight, so it makes me wonder what is up with US factory bread. When I try to find a fresh loaf of bread, it is white of whole wheat at best, some sourdough. I am at loss as to 6 dollar bread, at least when it comes to weight related issues. How can a French people be generally weight ok, and they eat a lot of bread. I think there is a warped idea of what eating healthy really is. I think another difference that bread here contains sugar, yet in most of Europe it does not.

Europeans eat smaller portions, less processed foods and get more exercise. That's all. It's surprising how the differences in lifestyle really add up. Americans who are overweight generally eat HUGE portions of food and commute via car. You don't have to give up bread to be thin. You just can't eat and eat and eat and not move.

Americans are overweight because carbs are cheap, plentiful taste good and are heavily subsidized by the government (carbs are cheap). Also, our bodies are hard wired to crave them as they are essential to life and not plentiful in nature. Asians and Europeans spend a much higher percentage of their incomes on food and have much better eating habits, but sloth and gluttony, contrary to popular belief, are not the main reasons for obesity in the US.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:6 dollar bread is not obscene

It's obscene to think there's something wrong with eating healthily.

What I wonder is why we need this "healthy" bread. Millions of Europeans buy fresh bread every morning. most of it white bread. I don't know what their internal health is, but most are not overweight, so it makes me wonder what is up with US factory bread. When I try to find a fresh loaf of bread, it is white of whole wheat at best, some sourdough. I am at loss as to 6 dollar bread, at least when it comes to weight related issues. How can a French people be generally weight ok, and they eat a lot of bread. I think there is a warped idea of what eating healthy really is. I think another difference that bread here contains sugar, yet in most of Europe it does not.

Europeans eat smaller portions, less processed foods and get more exercise. That's all. It's surprising how the differences in lifestyle really add up. Americans who are overweight generally eat HUGE portions of food and commute via car. You don't have to give up bread to be thin. You just can't eat and eat and eat and not move.

Americans are overweight because carbs are cheap, plentiful taste good and are heavily subsidized by the government (carbs are cheap). Also, our bodies are hard wired to crave them as they are essential to life and not plentiful in nature. Asians and Europeans spend a much higher percentage of their incomes on food and have much better eating habits, but sloth and gluttony, contrary to popular belief, are not the main reasons for obesity in the US.

Keep in mind that the carbohydrates subsidized in the US are simple ones (e.g., sugar). People eat lots of carbohydrates abroad too, but eat complex ones, which are as good as food gets along with vegetables.

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I suspect that while the bread in Europe is white is does not contain all of the crap that the average bread you find in Safeway or Giant does. Look at the ingredient list. Much of the bread has a laundry list of ingredients. Sadly to buy a loaf a bread that contains just flour (white or whole wheat), water, yeast, and salt costs $5 to $6.

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Which perfectly explains why bipartisan policy makers want to keep a century old immigration regulations the way it is. The affluent ruling class does not want young, highly educated foreigners who speak fluent English, to have advantage in getting legal status om the USA and work in their field of study and specialty, instead of receiving government handouts.






I have a problem with giving jobs to immigrants when we have AMERICANS who are NOT being given job opportunities, which is really the basis of the drug crisis. Foreigners are being "imported" because they will work "cheap" and being hired by their own . EX: Pakistani physics teacher proudly proclaimed how he would hire ANY Pakistani rather than a better qualified American because "Pakistanis should hire their own" , when HE was hired by a white, American. (I work with him- I shouldn't even get started on his hatred of American women)


How do you know this guy is Pakistani and not an American citizen? Did he tell you? If he is American, you do understand he has the same right to a job as any other American right? Regardless of his crappy views, there are no special rules that say brown people should be passed over for jobs so they can go to REAL (read white) Americans. I feel like the "Americans are being passed over for jobs" is a convenient talking point for the anti-immigrant crowd, who probably get all riled up when they see any brown person with a decent job here, but the fact is unemployment is low, and there are many companies who are having trouble filling jobs. There's no point blaming immigrants when most employable people are working now, and the few that are not think the open positions are beneath them or don't want to move for a job.


Immigrants don't have a constitutional right to have access to the United States. Its a privilege not a "RIGHT". The US does not have any obligation to help correct their poverty nor give them access to our educational system. Furthermore your remark about "BROWN" people is hilarious considering that most of these "Indian" and "Arab" immigrants are "WHITE" and and not only tend to be ANTI AMERICAN but Racist towards BLACK AMERICANS. Point is BROWN FOLKS (BLACK AMERICANS) don't have access to entry level jobs in lots of industries because of the influx of "BROWN" people on one end (Hispanics) and Asian Immigrants on the other (Tech workers). So which "Brown' people are you really worried about?


Wow...just wow. Indian and Arabs are white now? And they're all racist and anti-American? Your comment is so full of idiotic reasoning and stereotypes it's pathetic.

Not the PP, but I think you need to read that post and think about it a little. Because somehow Trump got elected and I think it had something to do with this issue. We have parts of America with substandard educational systems and a lot of people who cannot get paying jobs. Many of them have turned to opiates. Meanwhile we have many successful immigrants who got good educations in their countries. Most of them cannot vote (green cards, worker visas). So are we going to help those people who voted? Are we going to get them a better education and health care, etc.? Can we get them the better food that costs less?

Yeah, I'm not going to go back and ruminate on a blatantly racist post. As for your questions, of course we need to help Americans. That group includes blacks, Latinos, Asians, and whites. How about we ask these questions to our mostly white lawmakers, who allowed such an influx of immigrants so they could line the pockets of themselves and the people who benefited from these policies? What's the point of blaming and vilifying the immigrants?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which perfectly explains why bipartisan policy makers want to keep a century old immigration regulations the way it is. The affluent ruling class does not want young, highly educated foreigners who speak fluent English, to have advantage in getting legal status om the USA and work in their field of study and specialty, instead of receiving government handouts.

I have a problem with giving jobs to immigrants when we have AMERICANS who are NOT being given job opportunities, which is really the basis of the drug crisis. Foreigners are being "imported" because they will work "cheap" and being hired by their own . EX: Pakistani physics teacher proudly proclaimed how he would hire ANY Pakistani rather than a better qualified American because "Pakistanis should hire their own" , when HE was hired by a white, American. (I work with him- I shouldn't even get started on his hatred of American women)

How do you know this guy is Pakistani and not an American citizen? Did he tell you? If he is American, you do understand he has the same right to a job as any other American right? Regardless of his crappy views, there are no special rules that say brown people should be passed over for jobs so they can go to REAL (read white) Americans. I feel like the "Americans are being passed over for jobs" is a convenient talking point for the anti-immigrant crowd, who probably get all riled up when they see any brown person with a decent job here, but the fact is unemployment is low, and there are many companies who are having trouble filling jobs. There's no point blaming immigrants when most employable people are working now, and the few that are not think the open positions are beneath them or don't want to move for a job.

Immigrants don't have a constitutional right to have access to the United States. Its a privilege not a "RIGHT". The US does not have any obligation to help correct their poverty nor give them access to our educational system. Furthermore your remark about "BROWN" people is hilarious considering that most of these "Indian" and "Arab" immigrants are "WHITE" and and not only tend to be ANTI AMERICAN but Racist towards BLACK AMERICANS. Point is BROWN FOLKS (BLACK AMERICANS) don't have access to entry level jobs in lots of industries because of the influx of "BROWN" people on one end (Hispanics) and Asian Immigrants on the other (Tech workers). So which "Brown' people are you really worried about?

This post is just trying to divide people. Don't go for it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which perfectly explains why bipartisan policy makers want to keep a century old immigration regulations the way it is. The affluent ruling class does not want young, highly educated foreigners who speak fluent English, to have advantage in getting legal status om the USA and work in their field of study and specialty, instead of receiving government handouts.

I have a problem with giving jobs to immigrants when we have AMERICANS who are NOT being given job opportunities, which is really the basis of the drug crisis. Foreigners are being "imported" because they will work "cheap" and being hired by their own . EX: Pakistani physics teacher proudly proclaimed how he would hire ANY Pakistani rather than a better qualified American because "Pakistanis should hire their own" , when HE was hired by a white, American. (I work with him- I shouldn't even get started on his hatred of American women)

How do you know this guy is Pakistani and not an American citizen? Did he tell you? If he is American, you do understand he has the same right to a job as any other American right? Regardless of his crappy views, there are no special rules that say brown people should be passed over for jobs so they can go to REAL (read white) Americans. I feel like the "Americans are being passed over for jobs" is a convenient talking point for the anti-immigrant crowd, who probably get all riled up when they see any brown person with a decent job here, but the fact is unemployment is low, and there are many companies who are having trouble filling jobs. There's no point blaming immigrants when most employable people are working now, and the few that are not think the open positions are beneath them or don't want to move for a job.

Immigrants don't have a constitutional right to have access to the United States. Its a privilege not a "RIGHT". The US does not have any obligation to help correct their poverty nor give them access to our educational system. Furthermore your remark about "BROWN" people is hilarious considering that most of these "Indian" and "Arab" immigrants are "WHITE" and and not only tend to be ANTI AMERICAN but Racist towards BLACK AMERICANS. Point is BROWN FOLKS (BLACK AMERICANS) don't have access to entry level jobs in lots of industries because of the influx of "BROWN" people on one end (Hispanics) and Asian Immigrants on the other (Tech workers). So which "Brown' people are you really worried about?

This post is just trying to divide people. Don't go for it.

Agreed. This poster is just trying to justify their own inferiority. If Latinos and Asians do well, they'll say they work for cheap and if a black person gets promoted above them, they'll say they were just a diversity hire. These people can't admit the fact that they are failing because they suck.