The Poor Poor Middle Class with a 300k HHI

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It would be nice for people to understand that there are difference between people making 100k, 200k and 100M

People think that if you make 250K+ that's the same as being rich like bill gates.

Maybe these people are too stupid to realize that. overall the DC area has a middle class lifestyle at below the 500K HHI. New york its higher.

Nobody thinks that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be nice for people to understand that there are difference between people making 100k, 200k and 100M

People think that if you make 250K+ that's the same as being rich like bill gates.

Maybe these people are too stupid to realize that. overall the DC area has a middle class lifestyle at below the 500K HHI. New york its higher.

Nobody thinks that.

And Nobody thinks that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It would be nice for people to understand that there are difference between people making 100k, 200k and 100M

People think that if you make 250K+ that's the same as being rich like bill gates.

Maybe these people are too stupid to realize that. overall the DC area has a middle class lifestyle at below the 500K HHI. New york its higher.

I don't think anyone thinks that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It would be nice for people to understand that there are difference between people making 100k, 200k and 100M

People think that if you make 250K+ that's the same as being rich like bill gates.

Maybe these people are too stupid to realize that. overall the DC area has a middle class lifestyle at below the 500K HHI. New york its higher.

Nobody thinks that.

And Nobody thinks that

I'm 14:57 -- sorry to parrot you - I didn't see your comments before I posted. But I also agree that 500k is NOW where near a middle class lifestyle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did you catch the child's comment (in the article), upon returning from a $10,000 vacation with his father? "it was great," he said, "but next time we fly private like everyone else." WE FLY PRIVATE - LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

Was the 10k figure supposed to key us in to the fact that they were slumming it? I didn't get that.

[Anonymous]

I thought about that article all day. I suspect the truth is this: the rich have nice lives. They wouldn't mind if other people had just as nice lives as they currently have. They do not want to down grade their current level of comfort to move closer to the way the majority of people have to live.

Once I came up with this idea, I became more comfortable with the clear cognitive dissonance displayed by the rich in this article.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought the article was really interesting because it gets to the odd stigma of making a high HHI, which is partly why I believe everyone wants to call themselves middle-class. We've demonized rich people, so many have trouble identifying as one.

No, I think it's more that as you have these HHIs, you associate more or see more of how the Other OTHER truly rich live and it makes you feel like you are not there. You always compare yourself to the people who TRULY have it, which will always be a layer above you.

I think its this: that the rich secretly know that their lifestyle is indeed shameful. That's why they pretend to be "virtuous" middle class people. Deep down inside, they think driving an old honda and wearing old clothes can purge them of their sins. They think it is a sin of behavior, and not a sin of lack of empathy for people who happy if they can eventually afford to get an old honda.

[Anonymous]

Make them pay more taxes. That would alleviate their guilt a bit. Hypocrites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have a net worth of around 3 million dollars in our late thirties. I don't consider us wealthy. To me, rich people are people like the Kardashians.

There is so much conspicuous consumption in the media nowadays.

That's because you're greedy. You have more NW than 95-99% of individuals in the US: https://dqydj.com/net-worth-in-the-united-states-zooming-in-on-the-top-centiles/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a net worth of around 3 million dollars in our late thirties. I don't consider us wealthy. To me, rich people are people like the Kardashians.

There is so much conspicuous consumption in the media nowadays.

That's because you're greedy. You have more NW than 95-99% of individuals in the US: https://dqydj.com/net-worth-in-the-united-states-zooming-in-on-the-top-centiles/

Greedy and completely obtuse. You can't honestly think $3m net worth AT ANY AGE is not wealthy.

It is. Factually. Anywhere on earth. You are rich. FREAKING DEAL WITH IT.

Which was, of course, the entire point of the NYT article. "Why are rich people so loathe to admit they're rich?"

[Anonymous]

I'm not so sure about the rich feeling "shame" at being rich. For one thing, many are isolated from the many people who might look askance.

I wonder if the problem is actually the moral obligation that the notion of being "rich" might carry. If I am truly rich, should I be doing something substantial to help others? Should I admit that there a huge, systemic issues in my society with race and class?

The alternatives are far more comfortable.

And in fairness, this applies to me as well, although I make much less. Just to a smaller degree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:6 dollar bread is not obscene

It's obscene to think there's something wrong with eating healthily.

Six dollar bread is only healthy if it is paired with a five dollar avocado and a fifteen dollar cold pressed juice.

Please. Even poor millennials eat this way, which is why they can't afford to buy homes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:6 dollar bread is not obscene

It's obscene to think there's something wrong with eating healthily.

Six dollar bread is only healthy if it is paired with a five dollar avocado and a fifteen dollar cold pressed juice.

Please. Even poor millennials eat this way, which is why they can't afford to buy homes.

+1

You really can't imagine how to eat a fiber-rich diet without buying $6 bread?

I would like to introduce you to home baking and my friend Oatmeal.

[Anonymous]

We really are middle class, but I don't think $6 is all that terrible, especially if it's specialty, artisan style bread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:6 dollar bread is not obscene

It's obscene to think there's something wrong with eating healthily.

What I wonder is why we need this "healthy" bread. Millions of Europeans buy fresh bread every morning. most of it white bread. I don't know what their internal health is, but most are not overweight, so it makes me wonder what is up with US factory bread. When I try to find a fresh loaf of bread, it is white of whole wheat at best, some sourdough. I am at loss as to 6 dollar bread, at least when it comes to weight related issues. How can a French people be generally weight ok, and they eat a lot of bread. I think there is a warped idea of what eating healthy really is. I think another difference that bread here contains sugar, yet in most of Europe it does not.