Harvard Class of 2020

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My kid is Asian and I think having a diverse class is very important. Who wants to go to a college that is 70% Asians and 30% White. I did not know any AAs until I met them in college. Valuable exposure in my opinion. Also, Asian ms are good at study skills and test prep but pretty weak with social skills. Campuses are a lot more interesting with all demographics represented including international students.

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever happened to MLK's "content of their character..." when it comes to College Admission? Why can't race be blind on a resume, just like it is on job applications?

I don't think he was ever in charge of college admissions, so there's that. Also, lol to race blind job applications. I'm so done listening to white people whine about efforts to level the playing field in a system that they rigged for centuries, and expect us to think you've done your due diligence in a single generation. Done. My mother couldn't drink at the same water fountains as some of you fools. I'm under 30. It hasn't been long enough for you to pat your selves on the back and called it square.

There is still a massive discrepancy in the quality of education and enrichment that many minority children have access to compared to your lily white snowflakes. So sorry to break it to you, but the black kid you think stole your kid's seat because he scored 100 points lower? That kid is a fighter. He ran the same race as your kid, except he had a handicap, and your kid had wheels, and in the end your kid barely beat him. Yes he deserves the spot. That black kid has the abilities coupled with a drive to change the world. He'll give back to his community and to the university. Your kid may do that same things, but white men have always had their chance. It's time for everyone else to have theirs too.

Ah, yes. Those black kids growing up in 1.5 million dollar houses and going to Sidwell/Maret/etc.- such fighters. Such handicaps. I'm so glad they will finally have their chance.

Do you know why there are black kids growing up in those million dollar homes? Because affirmative action programs gave their parents a shot even though they may not have had perfect scores of their better prepared white peers. Save it.

Holy hell. You are saying wealthy, successful black people got that way because of affirmative action? That's just downright offensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid is Asian and I think having a diverse class is very important. Who wants to go to a college that is 70% Asians and 30% White. I did not know any AAs until I met them in college. Valuable exposure in my opinion. Also, Asian ms are good at study skills and test prep but pretty weak with social skills. Campuses are a lot more interesting with all demographics represented including international students.

So, it's okay to like diversity without over-generalizing about the social skills of a group of people from the largest continent on earth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid is Asian and I think having a diverse class is very important. Who wants to go to a college that is 70% Asians and 30% White. I did not know any AAs until I met them in college. Valuable exposure in my opinion. Also, Asian ms are good at study skills and test prep but pretty weak with social skills. Campuses are a lot more interesting with all demographics represented including international students.

You sound horrifically racist. There are 4.3 BILLION Asians in the world.

Reported to Jeff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid is Asian and I think having a diverse class is very important. Who wants to go to a college that is 70% Asians and 30% White. I did not know any AAs until I met them in college. Valuable exposure in my opinion. Also, Asian ms are good at study skills and test prep but pretty weak with social skills. Campuses are a lot more interesting with all demographics represented including international students.

Way to come across as ignorant AF.

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever happened to MLK's "content of their character..." when it comes to College Admission? Why can't race be blind on a resume, just like it is on job applications?

I don't think he was ever in charge of college admissions, so there's that. Also, lol to race blind job applications. I'm so done listening to white people whine about efforts to level the playing field in a system that they rigged for centuries, and expect us to think you've done your due diligence in a single generation. Done. My mother couldn't drink at the same water fountains as some of you fools. I'm under 30. It hasn't been long enough for you to pat your selves on the back and called it square.

There is still a massive discrepancy in the quality of education and enrichment that many minority children have access to compared to your lily white snowflakes. So sorry to break it to you, but the black kid you think stole your kid's seat because he scored 100 points lower? That kid is a fighter. He ran the same race as your kid, except he had a handicap, and your kid had wheels, and in the end your kid barely beat him. Yes he deserves the spot. That black kid has the abilities coupled with a drive to change the world. He'll give back to his community and to the university. Your kid may do that same things, but white men have always had their chance. It's time for everyone else to have theirs too.

Well said.

Signed,

Parent of a White suburban kid.

Would you feel the same way if you were the parent of a poor white kid in Appalachia that didn't get a 100 point advantage when a rich black kid that went to Sidwell did?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever happened to MLK's "content of their character..." when it comes to College Admission? Why can't race be blind on a resume, just like it is on job applications?

I don't think he was ever in charge of college admissions, so there's that. Also, lol to race blind job applications. I'm so done listening to white people whine about efforts to level the playing field in a system that they rigged for centuries, and expect us to think you've done your due diligence in a single generation. Done. My mother couldn't drink at the same water fountains as some of you fools. I'm under 30. It hasn't been long enough for you to pat your selves on the back and called it square.

There is still a massive discrepancy in the quality of education and enrichment that many minority children have access to compared to your lily white snowflakes. So sorry to break it to you, but the black kid you think stole your kid's seat because he scored 100 points lower? That kid is a fighter. He ran the same race as your kid, except he had a handicap, and your kid had wheels, and in the end your kid barely beat him. Yes he deserves the spot. That black kid has the abilities coupled with a drive to change the world. He'll give back to his community and to the university. Your kid may do that same things, but white men have always had their chance. It's time for everyone else to have theirs too.

There you go again generalizing. Many of these so called "snowflakes" come from broken homes, work several jobs and go hungry because there is no money to feed them. Whatever happened to the words "walk a mile in their shoes..." theory?

Well, the data shows that poor White kids do just fine in the Ivy admissions process. Better than higher SES Whites in fact.

Define "poor." The median family income for kids going to Harvard is $168,000, and only 4.5% have a family income in the bottom 20%. 15% of students have a family income over $630,000 per year. There just aren't that many scrappy poor kids going to Harvard, irrespective of race.

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2017/1/25/harvard-income-percentile/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whatever happened to MLK's "content of their character..." when it comes to College Admission? Why can't race be blind on a resume, just like it is on job applications?

If I only hired people with high GPA and SATs and never spoke to them I would hire people that can't talk to customers, can't work as a team and can't lead a team.

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Anonymous wrote:let me add so you can understand

There are easily 3000 white and Asian students across the country who are better than 250 of the 300 black students at Harvard and deserve a spot over them

It is so amazing how the default is always to assume that all blacks are poor and lack intelligence when the reality is that blacks are as diverse as any racial group in terms intellect, SES and values. Having less melanin or being from Asia does not inherently make an individual more intelligent or have better values. Seeing this post just reminds me how racist and dumb people on DCUM are.

Explain the academic qualifications and achievements gap between whites and asians vs blacks (and hispanics) and get back to me. If there was a level playing field there would be less than 5% blacks at elite colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:Whatever happened to MLK's "content of their character..." when it comes to College Admission? Why can't race be blind on a resume, just like it is on job applications?

I don't think he was ever in charge of college admissions, so there's that. Also, lol to race blind job applications. I'm so done listening to white people whine about efforts to level the playing field in a system that they rigged for centuries, and expect us to think you've done your due diligence in a single generation. Done. My mother couldn't drink at the same water fountains as some of you fools. I'm under 30. It hasn't been long enough for you to pat your selves on the back and called it square.

There is still a massive discrepancy in the quality of education and enrichment that many minority children have access to compared to your lily white snowflakes. So sorry to break it to you, but the black kid you think stole your kid's seat because he scored 100 points lower? That kid is a fighter. He ran the same race as your kid, except he had a handicap, and your kid had wheels, and in the end your kid barely beat him. Yes he deserves the spot. That black kid has the abilities coupled with a drive to change the world. He'll give back to his community and to the university. Your kid may do that same things, but white men have always had their chance. It's time for everyone else to have theirs too.

There you go again generalizing. Many of these so called "snowflakes" come from broken homes, work several jobs and go hungry because there is no money to feed them. Whatever happened to the words "walk a mile in their shoes..." theory?

Well, the data shows that poor White kids do just fine in the Ivy admissions process. Better than higher SES Whites in fact.

Define "poor." The median family income for kids going to Harvard is $168,000, and only 4.5% have a family income in the bottom 20%. 15% of students have a family income over $630,000 per year. There just aren't that many scrappy poor kids going to Harvard, irrespective of race.

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2017/1/25/harvard-income-percentile/

Thanks for using actual data. I think the whole admission process is a sham. If people really wanted to level the playing field SES is where to go not race quotas.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder if my lily white child should get a DNA test to see if she qualifies for a minority card like Senator Warren?

Haha......my daughter asked the same thing. She was hoping there was a native american great grandmother somewhere in our past.

My mom recently did a DNA test and the results showed she was majorly Hispanic. A huge surprise bc she grew up believing her ancestors were French. Maybe my DD will choose to check the Hispanic box on her college applications.

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder if my lily white child should get a DNA test to see if she qualifies for a minority card like Senator Warren?

Haha......my daughter asked the same thing. She was hoping there was a native american great grandmother somewhere in our past.

My mom recently did a DNA test and the results showed she was majorly Hispanic. A huge surprise bc she grew up believing her ancestors were French. Maybe my DD will choose to check the Hispanic box on her college applications.

That is not what colleges care about anymore.

They are looking for '"1st generation to attend college" "s1t gen am" or "spent time is foster care" race really is useless on apps now

You still could dump your kid into the foster care system.

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Anonymous wrote:Wonder if my lily white child should get a DNA test to see if she qualifies for a minority card like Senator Warren?

Haha......my daughter asked the same thing. She was hoping there was a native american great grandmother somewhere in our past.

My mom recently did a DNA test and the results showed she was majorly Hispanic. A huge surprise bc she grew up believing her ancestors were French. Maybe my DD will choose to check the Hispanic box on her college applications.

That is not what colleges care about anymore.

They are looking for '"1st generation to attend college" "s1t gen am" or "spent time is foster care" race really is useless on apps now

You still could dump your kid into the foster care system.

What planet do you live on? Race remains a major factor in admissions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:let me add so you can understand

There are easily 3000 white and Asian students across the country who are better than 250 of the 300 black students at Harvard and deserve a spot over them

It is so amazing how the default is always to assume that all blacks are poor and lack intelligence when the reality is that blacks are as diverse as any racial group in terms intellect, SES and values. Having less melanin or being from Asia does not inherently make an individual more intelligent or have better values. Seeing this post just reminds me how racist and dumb people on DCUM are.

Preach. Also amazing to me is the blistering white hot resentment at the merest sliver of advantage given to a black kid.

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Anonymous wrote:If there wasn't affirmative action for white people it would be 90% minority.

defend this. How do you figure?

NP It would look more like the California schools but not 90% Asian

California has a large population of Asians especially among "smart" cohort going to an elite school

vs the rest of the country which is still majority white especially at the "smart" cohort; in many places there are barely any asians at all

without Affirmative Action there would be barely any Hispanics or blacks at elite schools

So what percent are Asian at UC Berkeley now? Wouldn't Harvard look more like that in a fair, non "holistic" process?

More like that yes still Berkeley being in CA plays a role. If Berkeley was in another state the Asian stats would drop just like the Mexican stats would drop too

http://opa.berkeley.edu/uc-berkeley-fall-enrollment-data

Sidenote I will admit seeing an elite school with 20% Chinese makes me feel uncomfortable (I'm white)

Why does it make you uncomfortable? Because you're a racist?