Is Georgetown worth it over in-state UVA?

[Anonymous]

Here's an article from 2011 about enrollments. TJ is #1 with 106 and Maggie Walker (the Richmond equivalent) is #2 with 45.

http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/northern-virginia-leads-uva-w-m-admissions/article_0d4c5fcd-505d-5261-bf95-59509fe1192b.html

McLean had 36 the same year. Langley might be close to that, but most FCPS high schools probably had 20 at most.

http://patch.com/virginia/mclean/mclean-langley-graduates-excel-in-college-acceptances

[Anonymous]

^this doesn't include transfers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^this doesn't include transfers.

A grand total of 655 transfer students enrolled at UVA for the 2015-2016 school year, equal to about 20% of the number of freshmen that enrolled. How many of these could come from one high school, at most? 10? Certainly not enough to make the 36 students from McLean suddenly feel like they are back in high school.

There are almost 17,000 undergrads at UVA. Even if you consider that students know kids from McLean who were younger or older, at any given time, there can't be more than about 150 McLean grads at UVA. That's one percent of the entire student body. So let's stop with this "high school 2.0" silliness.

[Anonymous]

I grew up in Kansas and I knew UVA was a better state school than most. There was a girl in my high school class who wound up there and another one who really wanted to go (has straight As) and couldn't get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^this doesn't include transfers.

A: "My daughter's high school sends 100 to UVA every year."

B: "TJ is the only school that sends 100 to UVA per year."

A: "I was including transfers"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have 2 degrees from UVA and no degrees from Georgetown. I have been very impressed with both the UVA and Georgetown graduates that I have met. I think that any differences in reputation are barely discernable, and both schools are highly regarded and well recognized (although IMO the Georgetown campus is much nicer).

If one of our children wants/ed to go to Georgetown over UVA then that would be fine with us and we still would pay for it all. For us it comes down to our child's determination of where will s/he will be the happiest.

I'd be thrilled if my kid could get into either one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^this doesn't include transfers.

A: "My daughter's high school sends 100 to UVA every year."

B: "TJ is the only school that sends 100 to UVA per year."

A: "I was including transfers"

Stop being hyper-literal. There are dozens of schools that send 30 40 70 of kids each year to UVA. A teen in Fairfax can step on campus and know HUNDREDS of kids at UVA. Some people love that; I think that's high school 2.0.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Despite what Virginians would have you believe, Georgetown's name and reputation are superior to UVA both nationally and internationally. However, whether you consider that difference to be worth twice the price or not is entirely up to you.

NO WAY - not for undergrad.

[Anonymous]

Wow - there is some crazy nutter UVA booster on here.

UVA is a well-respected public and certainly a great "value". I heard about it back in HS in NJ, but didn't know anyone who applied. It was much easier to get into Ivy/Top 20 schools and tuition wasn't as crazy back then so I don't think as many people were looking at public options. Or if they were, it was the full-ride to Rutgers. These days it does make more sense to look at other publics given the pricetag.

Georgetown is a top national university and it draws from a broader area and is generally better recognized/ranked so I'd give it the edge if money doesn't play a factor.

"Worth it" is a decision for each family, depending on child/interest/budget/priorities. Personally, I hope my kids decide on a school out of this area.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand why people argue about this. It's so meaningless. If you have the money, then let her go to Georgetown. If you don't, then don't. If you have the money already, it's worth it. It's not worth it if you have to take out > 50k loans. Simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^this doesn't include transfers.

A: "My daughter's high school sends 100 to UVA every year."

B: "TJ is the only school that sends 100 to UVA per year."

A: "I was including transfers"

Stop being hyper-literal. There are dozens of schools that send 30 40 70 of kids each year to UVA. A teen in Fairfax can step on campus and know HUNDREDS of kids at UVA. Some people love that; I think that's high school 2.0.

Uh no, there are not dozens of schools that send 30 40 70 kids each year to UVA. The top two schools are at 106 and 45...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^this doesn't include transfers.

A: "My daughter's high school sends 100 to UVA every year."

B: "TJ is the only school that sends 100 to UVA per year."

A: "I was including transfers"

Stop being hyper-literal. There are dozens of schools that send 30 40 70 of kids each year to UVA. A teen in Fairfax can step on campus and know HUNDREDS of kids at UVA. Some people love that; I think that's high school 2.0.

Uh no, there are not dozens of schools that send 30 40 70 kids each year to UVA. The top two schools are at 106 and 45...

Don't confuse the conversation with facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^this doesn't include transfers.

A: "My daughter's high school sends 100 to UVA every year."

B: "TJ is the only school that sends 100 to UVA per year."

A: "I was including transfers"

Stop being hyper-literal. There are dozens of schools that send 30 40 70 of kids each year to UVA. A teen in Fairfax can step on campus and know HUNDREDS of kids at UVA. Some people love that; I think that's high school 2.0.

Uh no, there are not dozens of schools that send 30 40 70 kids each year to UVA. The top two schools are at 106 and 45...

Not that PP, but kids know other kids from the class above them, the class below them, various sport leagues and activities. Even if an individual HS class only has 45 kids it still might seem like a lot of people they know on campus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^this doesn't include transfers.

A: "My daughter's high school sends 100 to UVA every year."

B: "TJ is the only school that sends 100 to UVA per year."

A: "I was including transfers"

Stop being hyper-literal. There are dozens of schools that send 30 40 70 of kids each year to UVA. A teen in Fairfax can step on campus and know HUNDREDS of kids at UVA. Some people love that; I think that's high school 2.0.

Uh no, there are not dozens of schools that send 30 40 70 kids each year to UVA. The top two schools are at 106 and 45...

Not that PP, but kids know other kids from the class above them, the class below them, various sport leagues and activities. Even if an individual HS class only has 45 kids it still might seem like a lot of people they know on campus.

They may not even know the 45 from their school though, and maybe a handful from other schools. My DC went to a big university with 18 kids from her high school class. Similar numbers in surrounding years. So about 70-80 there at any one time, plus kids from other local schools. DC was friends with some of the 18, and some of the others, but maybe sees 10 of them on any kind of regular basis. Between dorms, Greek life, specialty academic program, etc there are plenty of opportunities to meet other people and DCs friends are from all over the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^this doesn't include transfers.

A: "My daughter's high school sends 100 to UVA every year."

B: "TJ is the only school that sends 100 to UVA per year."

A: "I was including transfers"

Stop being hyper-literal. There are dozens of schools that send 30 40 70 of kids each year to UVA. A teen in Fairfax can step on campus and know HUNDREDS of kids at UVA. Some people love that; I think that's high school 2.0.

Uh no, there are not dozens of schools that send 30 40 70 kids each year to UVA. The top two schools are at 106 and 45...

Not that PP, but kids know other kids from the class above them, the class below them, various sport leagues and activities. Even if an individual HS class only has 45 kids it still might seem like a lot of people they know on campus.

They may not even know the 45 from their school though, and maybe a handful from other schools. My DC went to a big university with 18 kids from her high school class. Similar numbers in surrounding years. So about 70-80 there at any one time, plus kids from other local schools. DC was friends with some of the 18, and some of the others, but maybe sees 10 of them on any kind of regular basis. Between dorms, Greek life, specialty academic program, etc there are plenty of opportunities to meet other people and DCs friends are from all over the country.

Np. The problem with going in state is that a lot of people use college as an opportunity to reinvent themselves. It's much easier to do that if you go away to school. I won't say it's impossible but it's harder to do when you're only 2 hours from home and you occasionally come across people who have known you since elementary school or even just your dorky freshman high school phase. Someone on your floor, in your chosen sorority, in classes. It stifles individual self expression.

Now is it worth an extra $30k a year to enable your kid to recreate themselves? Depends entirely on how much money you have.