Is Georgetown worth it over in-state UVA?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it really difficult to get into UVA? Looks like a 40% acceptance rate in-state?

No it's not. That's why all these UVA boosters are completely ridiculous! UVA is a safety school for strong VA residents. Sorry but it's the truth. If I had the money, I would definitely pick Georgetown over UVA. No question in my mind.

You are correct. It's a safety for strong VA residents. But for the 1/3 of OOS students (and in the view of rest of the country), it's a selective school and just as difficult to get in as Georgetown. I think that speaks to prestige outside VA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it really difficult to get into UVA? Looks like a 40% acceptance rate in-state?

No it's not. That's why all these UVA boosters are completely ridiculous! UVA is a safety school for strong VA residents. Sorry but it's the truth. If I had the money, I would definitely pick Georgetown over UVA. No question in my mind.

You are correct. It's a safety for strong VA residents. But for the 1/3 of OOS students (and in the view of rest of the country), it's a selective school and just as difficult to get in as Georgetown. I think that speaks to prestige outside VA.

Georgetown has more of a national reputation though. No question. If a kid really thinks he/she will stay in the DC area after grad, then UVA is fine. If, on the other hand, he/she plans to go to NYC/SF/LA with the rest of the herd, then Georgetown wins hands down. Assuming of course that the Bank of Mom and Dad can fund their education with no loans.

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Both UVA and Georgetown have strong national reputations among the informed - including those likely to make hiring decisions. Among the "masses," Georgetown is most well-known as a basketball power and there are some who think it is a mostly African American college.

I don't think "reputation" alone would justify picking GTown over UVA, but the schools are different enough that particular needs might justify the difference. For example, I personally believe that for those interested in the area, the school of foreign service is the finest undergraduate education available anywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it really difficult to get into UVA? Looks like a 40% acceptance rate in-state?

No it's not. That's why all these UVA boosters are completely ridiculous! UVA is a safety school for strong VA residents. Sorry but it's the truth. If I had the money, I would definitely pick Georgetown over UVA. No question in my mind.

You are correct. It's a safety for strong VA residents. But for the 1/3 of OOS students (and in the view of rest of the country), it's a selective school and just as difficult to get in as Georgetown. I think that speaks to prestige outside VA.

Laughably wrong. The degree to which some are talking down UVA here speaks volumes about their jealousy.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it really difficult to get into UVA? Looks like a 40% acceptance rate in-state?

No it's not. That's why all these UVA boosters are completely ridiculous! UVA is a safety school for strong VA residents. Sorry but it's the truth. If I had the money, I would definitely pick Georgetown over UVA. No question in my mind.

You are correct. It's a safety for strong VA residents. But for the 1/3 of OOS students (and in the view of rest of the country), it's a selective school and just as difficult to get in as Georgetown. I think that speaks to prestige outside VA.

Laughably wrong. The degree to which some are talking down UVA here speaks volumes about their jealousy.

UVA is a safety for strong in-state students. If you have 4.0 UW GPA or pretty close, it's a safety. Naviance data proves this.

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Anonymous wrote:Both UVA and Georgetown have strong national reputations among the informed - including those likely to make hiring decisions. Among the "masses," Georgetown is most well-known as a basketball power and there are some who think it is a mostly African American college.

I don't think "reputation" alone would justify picking GTown over UVA, but the schools are different enough that particular needs might justify the difference. For example, I personally believe that for those interested in the area, the school of foreign service is the finest undergraduate education available anywhere.

Actually, UVA has a stronger basketball program over last several years relative to Georgetown. I am a grad of neither. Just follow college basketball.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is it really difficult to get into UVA? Looks like a 40% acceptance rate in-state?

No it's not. That's why all these UVA boosters are completely ridiculous! UVA is a safety school for strong VA residents. Sorry but it's the truth. If I had the money, I would definitely pick Georgetown over UVA. No question in my mind.

You are correct. It's a safety for strong VA residents. But for the 1/3 of OOS students (and in the view of rest of the country), it's a selective school and just as difficult to get in as Georgetown. I think that speaks to prestige outside VA.

Laughably wrong. The degree to which some are talking down UVA here speaks volumes about their jealousy.

DH and I went to HYP and have a seven figure income. We can afford to pay for private colleges for our children. We are not jealous;

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I went to Georgetown Law School and it worked for me b/c of the area of law that I wanted to practice. It was much easier for me to work during summers/school year (other than my 2L summer when I headed to NYC and salary offset the housing expense). I went to an Ivy League for undergrad, and my parents had to pay out of pocket for my working in DC during the summer at an unpaid internship.

I recall meeting a UVA Law School grad my first year in big law in NYC. Within the first 3 months of working, he decided that he hated it, quit his job and headed back to school for architecture. I remember thinking how possible it was for him to do this b/c he had gone to a school with state tuition so he was free to do what he wanted. The majority of us in big law were looking at huge, huge law school debt.

I realize that the UVA grad programs are higher ranked than the undergrad but unless you know your child is majoring in international affairs and going to the foreign service school, I would save that money and put it towards your kid's grad school tuition. Another thing, my brother went to GW, and all of us, including him, would probably admit my parents ended up spending way more money than they should have sending him to DC rather than attending a good state school where we were residents.

Obviously, if you have enough money, then do what you want, but otherwise, I would send my kid to UVA.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA vs Georgetown is one thing. We were surprised to find colleagues who make very high incomes make their kids go to UMD over Georgetown.

Why is that surprising if they live in UMD? Then they're not eligible for UVA in state tuition and it's harder to get into OOS.

UVA is comparable in rankings with Georgetown. You can argue UVA is ranked higher than Georgetown depending on the ranking so Georgetown may not be worth the extra money.

UMD is not as high as UVA or Georgetown. It is an inferior school.

Times world university ranking 2016:
GU- 94
UMD- 117
UVA- 147

Not much difference between them. My point is not that any one of them is better or worse. There are many types of schools and there are many rankings (these heavily weight research). The best school depends what you are looking for. For a kid interested in Math, Physics, Engineering, Computer science, GU would not even be close to UMD.

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I didn't really UVA grad programs had in-state (lower) tuitions. Is this true for Darden too?

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't really UVA grad programs had in-state (lower) tuitions. Is this true for Darden too?

I just looked it up - UVA law school tuition (in-state) is only $1-2k less per year than Georgetown Law. 9:13 was making incorrect assumptions.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't really UVA grad programs had in-state (lower) tuitions. Is this true for Darden too?

I just looked it up - UVA law school tuition (in-state) is only $1-2k less per year than Georgetown Law. 9:13 was making incorrect assumptions.

This times a million. I went to UVA undergrad, but turned down law school there because it was only 2K cheaper than Columbia (where I eventually went).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA vs Georgetown is one thing. We were surprised to find colleagues who make very high incomes make their kids go to UMD over Georgetown.

Why is that surprising if they live in UMD? Then they're not eligible for UVA in state tuition and it's harder to get into OOS.

UVA is comparable in rankings with Georgetown. You can argue UVA is ranked higher than Georgetown depending on the ranking so Georgetown may not be worth the extra money.

UMD is not as high as UVA or Georgetown. It is an inferior school.

Times world university ranking 2016:
GU- 94
UMD- 117
UVA- 147

Not much difference between them. My point is not that any one of them is better or worse. There are many types of schools and there are many rankings (these heavily weight research). The best school depends what you are looking for. For a kid interested in Math, Physics, Engineering, Computer science, GU would not even be close to UMD.

Not much difference? One is private, one is public. One has a 15% acceptance rate, one has a 30%. One draws students from all over the world, the other draws 80% of its student body from the Commonwealth. One has a 10:1 student:teacher ratio, the other is 15:1...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't really UVA grad programs had in-state (lower) tuitions. Is this true for Darden too?

I just looked it up - UVA law school tuition (in-state) is only $1-2k less per year than Georgetown Law. 9:13 was making incorrect assumptions.

This times a million. I went to UVA undergrad, but turned down law school there because it was only 2K cheaper than Columbia (where I eventually went).

Darden and Law are semi-autonomous and set own tuition. They give a nominal instate discount ($3 or 4K) as a historical nod to their relationship but otherwise are functioning privates and don't get taxpayer support.

Med School and the other grad schools have larger spread ($10k btw instate and out of state).

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What is a better fit for your kid? Both are great schools.