Democrats, would you jump ship and vote for a Republican if your candidate said what Trump did?

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Anonymous wrote:You really don't see how someone can be morally opposed to killing unborn life? They can only be opposed to it because of internalized sexism?

They put the rights of a bunch of cells above the rights of a living human being. It's sexism because that human being is a woman, who you would legally force to become an incubator.

Look half of all women are pro-life. You can't say they're sexist because they have a different view of fetal life than you do.

Sexism is behavior. They can have all the babies they gestate. It becomes sexist when they try to force OTHER women to carry a pregnancy to term.

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I am a democrat and honestly don't know what I would do if a democrat said what Trump said.

But what I don't understand about the republicans like the OP's mom who say they have to vote for Trump because he is a republican, is that he doesn't even hold traditionally republican views. For example, being anti-trade is a core issue of his even though republicans are usually pro-trade and pro-business. Trump supports the government setting drug prices in Medicare, which is a big government intrusion that the GOP has opposed. Trump would cozy up to Russia and doesn't care if other nations get nuclear weapons, which is not consistent with traditional republican beliefs. Hillary Clinton's foreign policy (and her pro wall street leanings) are actually much closer to traditional republican views (much to my dismay). So why do republicans feel like they "have" to vote for Trump? his views aren't consistent with the traditional party platform.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the difference is the Democratic party would not have nominated someone like this.

Op here. I agree with you, but still...what if?

The Ds nominated Bill.

What in the fuck is the difference?

Bill was smart enough to keep his mouth shut. That's all.

You really think there's no difference between a Rhodes scholar who was governor of Arkansas for 12 years and a four-times bankrupt famewhore who pretends to be successful at business?

Who the fuck cares at this point?

So you'd bless the decision your daughter made to marry some high-profile figure who likes to share his dick with the world?

Neither side should be excused - and that includes Hillary for overlooking Bill's abuse of power.

You're a moron.

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Anonymous wrote:write in or vote 3rd party.

trumpers have that option with GJ or JS.

Or McMullin. Most recent polls showed him above Stein. And, Johnson is way too weak on defense for most Republicans.

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Anonymous wrote:write in or vote 3rd party.

trumpers have that option with GJ or JS.

Or McMullin. Most recent polls showed him above Stein. And, Johnson is way too weak on defense for most Republicans.

This is basically the same as voting for Hillary.

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Anonymous wrote:I have to begin by saying that I detest Trump and am not a Republican so am in no way defending him, but I find it curious that Democrats find it so appalling that Republicans would still vote for Trump after all of his appalling statements. It seems to me that most people are going to vote for the candidate whose policies most align with their own views regardless of whether they find the person to have good moral character or not. My mother is a Republican who is incredulous that Trump is the nominee, and can't stand the thought of voting for him (she was a Kasich supporter), but still plans to even in light of the leaked video. Basically it just comes down to the fact that she thinks despite being a baffoon, Trump's policies would be better for the country. I mean how many Bernie supporters, would have said, "Eff it, I'm voting for Cruz" if Bernie had been caught saying what Trump said?

I would not vote for such a hateful and bigoted person, no matter what.

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Anonymous wrote:I have to begin by saying that I detest Trump and am not a Republican so am in no way defending him, but I find it curious that Democrats find it so appalling that Republicans would still vote for Trump after all of his appalling statements. It seems to me that most people are going to vote for the candidate whose policies most align with their own views regardless of whether they find the person to have good moral character or not. My mother is a Republican who is incredulous that Trump is the nominee, and can't stand the thought of voting for him (she was a Kasich supporter), but still plans to even in light of the leaked video. Basically it just comes down to the fact that she thinks despite being a baffoon, Trump's policies would be better for the country. I mean how many Bernie supporters, would have said, "Eff it, I'm voting for Cruz" if Bernie had been caught saying what Trump said?

I don't think what he said is nearly as bad as many of the policies he has espoused. If a Democratic candidate had appalling policies like he does, I would not be voting for him. If the policies were otherwise to my liking, then no, I probably would not change my vote based on a statement like this.

The statement is gross. Many of the things he's said in the past are a much bigger deal and more disqualifying in my opinion. I find it hilarious that this is what people are getting up in arms about. Ban Muslims? Whatever. Religious litmus test to enter the country? Eh. Promote stop and frisk? He didn't really mean it. Limit freedom of the press? Eh, we don't like the media anyway. But he says the word pussy and talks about groping and all of a sudden he is radioactive.

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Anonymous wrote:If Democrats had a candidate as disgusting and dangerous as Trump who was running against someone like Mitt Romney (whose political views I do not like or agree with) I would absolutely vote for the Republican.

+1 No doubt

Ditto.

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If the Republican were a decent person with moderate views on social issues and as qualified as Hillary Clinton, absolutely. If they were a right wing culture warrior, I would vote third party or write in.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the difference is the Democratic party would not have nominated someone like this.

Op here. I agree with you, but still...what if?

The Ds nominated Bill.

What in the fuck is the difference?

Bill was smart enough to keep his mouth shut. That's all.

You really think there's no difference between a Rhodes scholar who was governor of Arkansas for 12 years and a four-times bankrupt famewhore who pretends to be successful at business?

Who the fuck cares at this point?

So you'd bless the decision your daughter made to marry some high-profile figure who likes to share his dick with the world?

Neither side should be excused - and that includes Hillary for overlooking Bill's abuse of power.

You're a moron.

You are ignoring that Melania made the decision to marry "some high-profile figure who likes to share his dick with the world." And that she is currently overlooking Donald's "abuse of power."

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Anonymous wrote:I think the difference is the Democratic party would not have nominated someone like this.

Op here. I agree with you, but still...what if?

The Ds nominated Bill.

What in the fuck is the difference?

Bill was smart enough to keep his mouth shut. That's all.

You really think there's no difference between a Rhodes scholar who was governor of Arkansas for 12 years and a four-times bankrupt famewhore who pretends to be successful at business?

Who the fuck cares at this point?

So you'd bless the decision your daughter made to marry some high-profile figure who likes to share his dick with the world?

Neither side should be excused - and that includes Hillary for overlooking Bill's abuse of power.

You're a moron.

Wtf are you talking about?? We are talking about voting for president, not arranging a marriage for our daughters.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, the thing you have to keep in mind is that this isn't just a one-off statement. This represents a pattern of how he treats women. There are reports after reports about his crass comments on women, made throughout his life.

One of the things I once read in an article was really eye-opening: it was that at his military school, Playboy magazine was revered as holding up an ideal lifestyle for men and every student wanted to be Hugh Hefner. One of his classmates said, in essence, most of us moved on and evolved, but Trump has been stuck in that moment. Hugh Hefner has been his role model for decades.

OP here, I completely agree with your view of Trump, and being a Democrat I have never had any intention of voting for him. My question is what do you really expect Republicans such as my mother, to do? Yes, she thinks Trump is just as disgusting as we do, yet being a Republican, she still for the most part agrees with his view of how the nation should run. Is she supposed to put that aside and not vote for him just because he's a pig? Would Democrats do the same if the situation were reverse?

Yes. Duh.

WTF? This isn't North Korea. She didn't swear allegiance to a party under threat of death. She's an individual with free will, and, supposedly, a brain.

Of course she didn't swear allegiance to a party. She thinks trump is vile but she still thinks his vision of the country is better. How many democrats would give their vote to a Republican if they were in this same situation.

Your comebacks smell of desperation trying to find morals in your mother's choice.
Plenty of posters said they would, including myself.

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I would stay home. Never vote Republican but couldn't vote for anyone who said that.

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Anonymous wrote:So, Democrats, you have no problem with what Hillary did to a twelve year old rape victim? Painting her as a "temptress"? Laughing about it later?

She says that she has always been there for women and children--except for this one?

Seeing as how I'm a lawyer, no. It was her job. She was appointed by the Court, she didn't choose to defend him. You can't decline appointments like that. Attorneys cannot let the moral or ethical status of a client’s actions or position impair their ability to be effective advocates. Clinton reluctantly took on the case, which ended with a plea bargain for the defendant.

Clinton said, “I don't want to represent this guy. I just can't stand this. I don't want to get involved. Can you get me off?” She contacted the judge and the judge didn't remove her and she stayed on the case.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a democrat and honestly don't know what I would do if a democrat said what Trump said.

But what I don't understand about the republicans like the OP's mom who say they have to vote for Trump because he is a republican, is that he doesn't even hold traditionally republican views. For example, being anti-trade is a core issue of his even though republicans are usually pro-trade and pro-business. Trump supports the government setting drug prices in Medicare, which is a big government intrusion that the GOP has opposed. Trump would cozy up to Russia and doesn't care if other nations get nuclear weapons, which is not consistent with traditional republican beliefs. Hillary Clinton's foreign policy (and her pro wall street leanings) are actually much closer to traditional republican views (much to my dismay). So why do republicans feel like they "have" to vote for Trump? his views aren't consistent with the traditional party platform.

Her big thing is immigration.