Democrats, would you jump ship and vote for a Republican if your candidate said what Trump did?

[Anonymous]

write in or vote 3rd party.

trumpers have that option with GJ or JS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, the thing you have to keep in mind is that this isn't just a one-off statement. This represents a pattern of how he treats women. There are reports after reports about his crass comments on women, made throughout his life.

One of the things I once read in an article was really eye-opening: it was that at his military school, Playboy magazine was revered as holding up an ideal lifestyle for men and every student wanted to be Hugh Hefner. One of his classmates said, in essence, most of us moved on and evolved, but Trump has been stuck in that moment. Hugh Hefner has been his role model for decades.

OP here, I completely agree with your view of Trump, and being a Democrat I have never had any intention of voting for him. My question is what do you really expect Republicans such as my mother, to do? Yes, she thinks Trump is just as disgusting as we do, yet being a Republican, she still for the most part agrees with his view of how the nation should run. Is she supposed to put that aside and not vote for him just because he's a pig? Would Democrats do the same if the situation were reverse?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, Democrats, you have no problem with what Hillary did to a twelve year old rape victim? Painting her as a "temptress"? Laughing about it later?

She says that she has always been there for women and children--except for this one?

That is a lie you are pulling out of your rear end. Show any credible citation. Everyone in this country gets to plead the case using a defense attorney. Hillary was one of those defense attorneys.

[Anonymous]

It depends on who the republican candidate was. I could have voted for Mitt Romney. I certainly could have voted from George H. Bush. I could have voted for McCain. As long as they were somewhat moderate, I could have switched.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, Democrats, you have no problem with what Hillary did to a twelve year old rape victim? Painting her as a "temptress"? Laughing about it later?

She says that she has always been there for women and children--except for this one?

Did you watch the interview where she supposedly laughed? I have watched it. She didn't laugh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, the thing you have to keep in mind is that this isn't just a one-off statement. This represents a pattern of how he treats women. There are reports after reports about his crass comments on women, made throughout his life.

One of the things I once read in an article was really eye-opening: it was that at his military school, Playboy magazine was revered as holding up an ideal lifestyle for men and every student wanted to be Hugh Hefner. One of his classmates said, in essence, most of us moved on and evolved, but Trump has been stuck in that moment. Hugh Hefner has been his role model for decades.

OP here, I completely agree with your view of Trump, and being a Democrat I have never had any intention of voting for him. My question is what do you really expect Republicans such as my mother, to do? Yes, she thinks Trump is just as disgusting as we do, yet being a Republican, she still for the most part agrees with his view of how the nation should run. Is she supposed to put that aside and not vote for him just because he's a pig? Would Democrats do the same if the situation were reverse?

Yes, I would hope that people have enough of a moral center that if it is revealed what a disgusting human being their candidate is they will not vote for him. And that includes me, an ardent Democrat who has never voted for a Republican. I love this country more than I love the party and could not vote for someone who has behaved like Trump, no matter how liberal his views.

[Anonymous]

I think it is hardest for the strongly pro-life. If you strongly believe that abortion is murder, the thought of a strongly pro-choice person like Hilary making several supreme court justice appointments must be horrifying. I think the rest of the republican can easily vote for Hilary. Only the strongly pro-life are in a real dilemma. I think they would say groping and kissing a few women does not compare to mass murder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it is hardest for the strongly pro-life. If you strongly believe that abortion is murder, the thought of a strongly pro-choice person like Hilary making several supreme court justice appointments must be horrifying. I think the rest of the republican can easily vote for Hilary. Only the strongly pro-life are in a real dilemma. I think they would say groping and kissing a few women does not compare to mass murder.

In the end, they are actually anti-women.

Like we always knew...

[Anonymous]

Look - if the democrats did something so irresponsible like nominating a completely unqualified and crazy person to run as president, and there was some career politician who I dislike but is nonetheless competent on the other side - something like a Kanye v. Cheney matchup - then I'd write someone in but no way in hell would I vote for Kanye. And if I lived in a swing state and it looked close, then yeah, I'd probably take a valium then go vote for old Vader.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look - if the democrats did something so irresponsible like nominating a completely unqualified and crazy person to run as president, and there was some career politician who I dislike but is nonetheless competent on the other side - something like a Kanye v. Cheney matchup - then I'd write someone in but no way in hell would I vote for Kanye. And if I lived in a swing state and it looked close, then yeah, I'd probably take a valium then go vote for old Vader.

+10000 this is the exact analogy I have used in conversations with friends across the political spectrum over the last several months. And they're ALL voting HRC - many of republican friends will cast a D ballot for the first time in their lives this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is hardest for the strongly pro-life. If you strongly believe that abortion is murder, the thought of a strongly pro-choice person like Hilary making several supreme court justice appointments must be horrifying. I think the rest of the republican can easily vote for Hilary. Only the strongly pro-life are in a real dilemma. I think they would say groping and kissing a few women does not compare to mass murder.

In the end, they are actually anti-women.

Like we always knew...

Sure. All the pro-life women I know are anti-women

[Anonymous]

I would vote for someone else or just not vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is hardest for the strongly pro-life. If you strongly believe that abortion is murder, the thought of a strongly pro-choice person like Hilary making several supreme court justice appointments must be horrifying. I think the rest of the republican can easily vote for Hilary. Only the strongly pro-life are in a real dilemma. I think they would say groping and kissing a few women does not compare to mass murder.

In the end, they are actually anti-women.

Like we always knew...

Sure. All the pro-life women I know are anti-women

Do you think women can't internalize the message that they are second class, especially those who grew up in conservative, patriarchal homes and religions?

[Anonymous]

You really don't see how someone can be morally opposed to killing unborn life? They can only be opposed to it because of internalized sexism?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is hardest for the strongly pro-life. If you strongly believe that abortion is murder, the thought of a strongly pro-choice person like Hilary making several supreme court justice appointments must be horrifying. I think the rest of the republican can easily vote for Hilary. Only the strongly pro-life are in a real dilemma. I think they would say groping and kissing a few women does not compare to mass murder.

In the end, they are actually anti-women.

Like we always knew...

Sure. All the pro-life women I know are anti-women

Yup.