Why don't we ban the burqa?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

This.

Also, are you dumb, OP? Not a lot of burqas around here.

Come on out to 7 Corners. They are everywhere.

What you see are not burqas.

How do you know what they are seeing? Different poster here - I am a SAHM and out and about everyday running errands and I see them regularly. Yes, burqas - completely covered in black head to toe with a small slit for their eyes. I've also seen the other kind of costume where the women are afforded a little flap over their mouth so they can breath properly once in awhile. I have seen them mostly at Seven Corners and Fair City Mall in Fairfax but have also seen them in DC. The women who wear these are always traveling in groups or accompanied by men.

Your description does not fit a burqa. Sorry.

First, you are very unlikely to see a black burqa. More often than not they are neutral or somewhat colorful.

Second, what you are describing is a Sunni woman wearing traditional conservative attire. In all likelihood Saudi or Kuwaiti. Their attire comprises 3 elements. The abaya. The black robe/cloak. The niqab. This is a face veil. Given you say there is merely a slit for the eyes would suggest conservative Saudi (an ardent Salafi would wear this). And finally the hijab. This is the hair covering. Less conservative garb would be a niqab that covers only the nose and mouth or no niqab at all.

These are no more interchangeable with a burqa than a kilt is for lederhosen.

It's not worth it, PP. Someone actually copied in a little visual showing what these different outfits look like and people are still insisting they see burqas every day. Niqab, sure, maybe. I see those often enough when I'm at Tysons. But that's not a burqa! I think this garb is anti-human and not a good idea for several reasons, but this failure to get the nomenclature straight even as they're calling for its ban is making me crazy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

This.

Also, are you dumb, OP? Not a lot of burqas around here.

Come on out to 7 Corners. They are everywhere.

What you see are not burqas.

How do you know what they are seeing? Different poster here - I am a SAHM and out and about everyday running errands and I see them regularly. Yes, burqas - completely covered in black head to toe with a small slit for their eyes. I've also seen the other kind of costume where the women are afforded a little flap over their mouth so they can breath properly once in awhile. I have seen them mostly at Seven Corners and Fair City Mall in Fairfax but have also seen them in DC. The women who wear these are always traveling in groups or accompanied by men.

Your description does not fit a burqa. Sorry.

First, you are very unlikely to see a black burqa. More often than not they are neutral or somewhat colorful.

Second, what you are describing is a Sunni woman wearing traditional conservative attire. In all likelihood Saudi or Kuwaiti. Their attire comprises 3 elements. The abaya. The black robe/cloak. The niqab. This is a face veil. Given you say there is merely a slit for the eyes would suggest conservative Saudi (an ardent Salafi would wear this). And finally the hijab. This is the hair covering. Less conservative garb would be a niqab that covers only the nose and mouth or no niqab at all.

These are no more interchangeable with a burqa than a kilt is for lederhosen.

It's not worth it, PP. Someone actually copied in a little visual showing what these different outfits look like and people are still insisting they see burqas every day. Niqab, sure, maybe. I see those often enough when I'm at Tysons. But that's not a burqa! I think this garb is anti-human and not a good idea for several reasons, but this failure to get the nomenclature straight even as they're calling for its ban is making me crazy.

Forgive me, I'm one of the PP's who called it a burqua, I was wrong and it is a Niqab. Sorry, I confused the Halloween costumes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

This.

Also, are you dumb, OP? Not a lot of burqas around here.

Go to tysons or venture into fairfax and see how many. Also terrorism and this constant women oppression by a religion wasnt taken into accoubt when the above statement was written.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

This.

Also, are you dumb, OP? Not a lot of burqas around here.

Come on out to 7 Corners. They are everywhere.

What you see are not burqas.

How do you know what they are seeing? Different poster here - I am a SAHM and out and about everyday running errands and I see them regularly. Yes, burqas - completely covered in black head to toe with a small slit for their eyes. I've also seen the other kind of costume where the women are afforded a little flap over their mouth so they can breath properly once in awhile. I have seen them mostly at Seven Corners and Fair City Mall in Fairfax but have also seen them in DC. The women who wear these are always traveling in groups or accompanied by men.

Your description does not fit a burqa. Sorry.

First, you are very unlikely to see a black burqa. More often than not they are neutral or somewhat colorful.

Second, what you are describing is a Sunni woman wearing traditional conservative attire. In all likelihood Saudi or Kuwaiti. Their attire comprises 3 elements. The abaya. The black robe/cloak. The niqab. This is a face veil. Given you say there is merely a slit for the eyes would suggest conservative Saudi (an ardent Salafi would wear this). And finally the hijab. This is the hair covering. Less conservative garb would be a niqab that covers only the nose and mouth or no niqab at all.

These are no more interchangeable with a burqa than a kilt is for lederhosen.

It's not worth it, PP. Someone actually copied in a little visual showing what these different outfits look like and people are still insisting they see burqas every day. Niqab, sure, maybe. I see those often enough when I'm at Tysons. But that's not a burqa! I think this garb is anti-human and not a good idea for several reasons, but this failure to get the nomenclature straight even as they're calling for its ban is making me crazy.

Whatever the f the oppressive dress wear its designed to oppress women and control them in their religion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

This.

Also, are you dumb, OP? Not a lot of burqas around here.

Come on out to 7 Corners. They are everywhere.

What you see are not burqas.

How do you know what they are seeing? Different poster here - I am a SAHM and out and about everyday running errands and I see them regularly. Yes, burqas - completely covered in black head to toe with a small slit for their eyes. I've also seen the other kind of costume where the women are afforded a little flap over their mouth so they can breath properly once in awhile. I have seen them mostly at Seven Corners and Fair City Mall in Fairfax but have also seen them in DC. The women who wear these are always traveling in groups or accompanied by men.

Your description does not fit a burqa. Sorry.

First, you are very unlikely to see a black burqa. More often than not they are neutral or somewhat colorful.

Second, what you are describing is a Sunni woman wearing traditional conservative attire. In all likelihood Saudi or Kuwaiti. Their attire comprises 3 elements. The abaya. The black robe/cloak. The niqab. This is a face veil. Given you say there is merely a slit for the eyes would suggest conservative Saudi (an ardent Salafi would wear this). And finally the hijab. This is the hair covering. Less conservative garb would be a niqab that covers only the nose and mouth or no niqab at all.

These are no more interchangeable with a burqa than a kilt is for lederhosen.

It's not worth it, PP. Someone actually copied in a little visual showing what these different outfits look like and people are still insisting they see burqas every day. Niqab, sure, maybe. I see those often enough when I'm at Tysons. But that's not a burqa! I think this garb is anti-human and not a good idea for several reasons, but this failure to get the nomenclature straight even as they're calling for its ban is making me crazy.

Forgive me, I'm one of the PP's who called it a burqua, I was wrong and it is a Niqab. Sorry, I confused the Halloween costumes.

If ignorance is bliss, you must be eternally ecstatic.

[Anonymous]

Muslim women everywhere thank all of you progressive, tolerant feminists for thinking for them. Their degrees from Canbridge and Oxford and Harvard and the London a school of Economics are proof certain that they need YOU!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Muslim women everywhere thank all of you progressive, tolerant feminists for thinking for them. Their degrees from Canbridge and Oxford and Harvard and the London a school of Economics are proof certain that they need YOU!

Go tinkle up a rope. I'm a feminist who thinks gender-based religious garb is moronic; it's still their right to wear it. It hasn't been leftists and Democrats who have attacked them and who protest them wearing the clothing in which they feel the most comfortable. Furthermore, it's not us who want to deport them all or call them all terrorists.

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I hate seeing it in DC. And for the person who wrote you don't see it...hang out at the Watergate or G'town waterfront some afternoon. You'll feel like someone is planning something bad. All of the women have so many kids. I'm a "when in Rome" type of person. If people want to oppress women, they should really stay where they belong. In the Middle East.

[Anonymous]

If it weren't so pathetically sad, the fear and ignorance demonstrated in this thread could be very funny in a Mel Brooks/Woody Allen kind of way.

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Anonymous wrote:I see burkas downtown and in gtown all the time.

I doubt you know the difference between a burqa, hijab and niqab, or even a kaffiyeh for that matter.

Not the PP. I do, and see burkas in No. VA every day. Go to Tysons II mall and it's full of 'em - usually Saud

That's not a burqa. That is a niqab. Jesus, if you're going to be an islamophobe, do it properly.

Full black robes with only their eyes showing?

Right, that's a niqab. A niqab is not a burqa is not a chador and calling one the other makes you sound ignorant and islamophobic.

Listen, I think the sexually unbalanced covering of women's whole bodies and faces is moronic (as I find the unbalanced garb of Amish, Orthodox Jews etc equally offensive on a feminist level), but this making them "other" doesn't do anything but further alienate them as people and as a culture. Do you remember the recent "burqini" ban in France? Do you know why Muslim women hated that so much? Because the burqini, while wildly oppressive by our eyes (or excellent sun protection, depending how you feel), allowed those women to go to the beach and partake. Same thing here: stupidly oppressive outfit by Western standards, but it allows them to leave their homes.

Don't forget that just because they look anonymous under there doesn't mean they aren't people.

You are still calling people Islamophobic because thsy can't give a lecture on Muslim dress.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see burkas downtown and in gtown all the time.

I doubt you know the difference between a burqa, hijab and niqab, or even a kaffiyeh for that matter.

Not the PP. I do, and see burkas in No. VA every day. Go to Tysons II mall and it's full of 'em - usually Saud

That's not a burqa. That is a niqab. Jesus, if you're going to be an islamophobe, do it properly.

Full black robes with only their eyes showing?

Right, that's a niqab. A niqab is not a burqa is not a chador and calling one the other makes you sound ignorant and islamophobic.

Listen, I think the sexually unbalanced covering of women's whole bodies and faces is moronic (as I find the unbalanced garb of Amish, Orthodox Jews etc equally offensive on a feminist level), but this making them "other" doesn't do anything but further alienate them as people and as a culture. Do you remember the recent "burqini" ban in France? Do you know why Muslim women hated that so much? Because the burqini, while wildly oppressive by our eyes (or excellent sun protection, depending how you feel), allowed those women to go to the beach and partake. Same thing here: stupidly oppressive outfit by Western standards, but it allows them to leave their homes.

Don't forget that just because they look anonymous under there doesn't mean they aren't people.

You are still calling people Islamophobic because thsy can't give a lecture on Muslim dress.

Well now you can! So this thread has not only been fun, but it's been educational too!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Muslim women everywhere thank all of you progressive, tolerant feminists for thinking for them. Their degrees from Canbridge and Oxford and Harvard and the London a school of Economics are proof certain that they need YOU!

Go tinkle up a rope. I'm a feminist who thinks gender-based religious garb is moronic; it's still their right to wear it. It hasn't been leftists and Democrats who have attacked them and who protest them wearing the clothing in which they feel the most comfortable. Furthermore, it's not us who want to deport them all or call them all terrorists.

Idk about you but they look far far from comfortable wearing a niqab,burka, whatever completely covered wear in 120 degree DC heat!!!! I feel sweaty just thinking about it!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

I saw it on a bumper sticker: Ban the Burqa not Guns. Guns don't kill people burqas do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate seeing it in DC. And for the person who wrote you don't see it...hang out at the Watergate or G'town waterfront some afternoon. You'll feel like someone is planning something bad. All of the women have so many kids. I'm a "when in Rome" type of person. If people want to oppress women, they should really stay where they belong. In the Middle East.

Who the f hangs out at the Watergate? Are you for real? As for Georgetown, I don't go very often but I call BS. There's very little in Georgetown that you can't find in Tysons and no huge Muslim population in DC. It didn't happen without photos.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know if we should ban all of these getups, but I do know that they look hot, heavy, and uncomfortable.

Maybe you should ask.

I don't know any Muslim women who don't like wearing their national dress. By design it's cool and surprisingly light. The big things I hear is the fear they're going to be attacked by a rabid Trumpeteer for begging a terrorist or attacked by a progressive feminist SJW who wants to "free" them.

I don't know, but I am just guessing that it is incredibly hot and uncomfortable for them to wear heavy black robes and veils on a humid 95 degree day while their sexist husbands wear shorts and a t-shirt.