Changing Classrooms at Beauvoir?

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Anonymous wrote:No, $40,000 for an amazing education and a bump for NCS/STA.

Blatant bullying is not tolerated at Beauvoir, but unfortunately there are relational aggression issues that are more subtle and, therefore, harder for teachers to address. They do their best, but sometimes it's best just to separate kids to break up a persistent dynamic.

So "relational aggression issues" is the $40,000 phrase for "bullying?" I'm gonna remember that one...

Only if you want to be simplistic. Relational aggression is a rather subtle form of bullying. That's why it's harder for teachers to respond to. Teasing, attempts to exclude a child, or other more blatant forms of bullying are immediately addressed at Beauvoir, and the school overall is very sensitive and responsive to that. However, it's harder to tackle the more subtle stuff.

Such as, sorry, I won't be inviting you to my bday party?

If it is, certainly you recognize that there is nothing a teacher can do about that, right? That type of behavior has to be nipped in the bud by the parents.

And, while most Beauvoir parents are wonderful, there are a few who are disengaged and believe that being a good parent means allowing their children to do whatever they want.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:No, $40,000 for an amazing education and a bump for NCS/STA.

Blatant bullying is not tolerated at Beauvoir, but unfortunately there are relational aggression issues that are more subtle and, therefore, harder for teachers to address. They do their best, but sometimes it's best just to separate kids to break up a persistent dynamic.

So "relational aggression issues" is the $40,000 phrase for "bullying?" I'm gonna remember that one...

Only if you want to be simplistic. Relational aggression is a rather subtle form of bullying. That's why it's harder for teachers to respond to. Teasing, attempts to exclude a child, or other more blatant forms of bullying are immediately addressed at Beauvoir, and the school overall is very sensitive and responsive to that. However, it's harder to tackle the more subtle stuff.

Such as, sorry, I won't be inviting you to my bday party?

If it is, certainly you recognize that there is nothing a teacher can do about that, right? That type of behavior has to be nipped in the bud by the parents.

And, while most Beauvoir parents are wonderful, there are a few who are disengaged and believe that being a good parent means allowing their children to do whatever they want.

And that's everywhere and in every school, private and public alike.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, $40,000 for an amazing education and a bump for NCS/STA.

Blatant bullying is not tolerated at Beauvoir, but unfortunately there are relational aggression issues that are more subtle and, therefore, harder for teachers to address. They do their best, but sometimes it's best just to separate kids to break up a persistent dynamic.

So "relational aggression issues" is the $40,000 phrase for "bullying?" I'm gonna remember that one...

Only if you want to be simplistic. Relational aggression is a rather subtle form of bullying. That's why it's harder for teachers to respond to. Teasing, attempts to exclude a child, or other more blatant forms of bullying are immediately addressed at Beauvoir, and the school overall is very sensitive and responsive to that. However, it's harder to tackle the more subtle stuff.

Such as, sorry, I won't be inviting you to my bday party?

If it is, certainly you recognize that there is nothing a teacher can do about that, right? That type of behavior has to be nipped in the bud by the parents.

And, while most Beauvoir parents are wonderful, there are a few who are disengaged and believe that being a good parent means allowing their children to do whatever they want.

And that's everywhere and in every school, private and public alike.

Am I the only one who thinks it's perfectly fine for my kids to choose whom they want to invite to THEIR bday parties?

(And, I reserve the right to invite a few families and kids I want to invite)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, $40,000 for an amazing education and a bump for NCS/STA.

Blatant bullying is not tolerated at Beauvoir, but unfortunately there are relational aggression issues that are more subtle and, therefore, harder for teachers to address. They do their best, but sometimes it's best just to separate kids to break up a persistent dynamic.

So "relational aggression issues" is the $40,000 phrase for "bullying?" I'm gonna remember that one...

Only if you want to be simplistic. Relational aggression is a rather subtle form of bullying. That's why it's harder for teachers to respond to. Teasing, attempts to exclude a child, or other more blatant forms of bullying are immediately addressed at Beauvoir, and the school overall is very sensitive and responsive to that. However, it's harder to tackle the more subtle stuff.

Such as, sorry, I won't be inviting you to my bday party?

If it is, certainly you recognize that there is nothing a teacher can do about that, right? That type of behavior has to be nipped in the bud by the parents.

And, while most Beauvoir parents are wonderful, there are a few who are disengaged and believe that being a good parent means allowing their children to do whatever they want.

And that's everywhere and in every school, private and public alike.

Am I the only one who thinks it's perfectly fine for my kids to choose whom they want to invite to THEIR bday parties?

(And, I reserve the right to invite a few families and kids I want to invite)

That's exactly what I was thinking, PP.

Ladies, perhaps there is a reason that your little snowflakes are excluded. If they are as insufferable in their conversation as the dialogue in the last few pages of this thread, I think you have your answer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, $40,000 for an amazing education and a bump for NCS/STA.

Blatant bullying is not tolerated at Beauvoir, but unfortunately there are relational aggression issues that are more subtle and, therefore, harder for teachers to address. They do their best, but sometimes it's best just to separate kids to break up a persistent dynamic.

So "relational aggression issues" is the $40,000 phrase for "bullying?" I'm gonna remember that one...

Only if you want to be simplistic. Relational aggression is a rather subtle form of bullying. That's why it's harder for teachers to respond to. Teasing, attempts to exclude a child, or other more blatant forms of bullying are immediately addressed at Beauvoir, and the school overall is very sensitive and responsive to that. However, it's harder to tackle the more subtle stuff.

Such as, sorry, I won't be inviting you to my bday party?

If it is, certainly you recognize that there is nothing a teacher can do about that, right? That type of behavior has to be nipped in the bud by the parents.

And, while most Beauvoir parents are wonderful, there are a few who are disengaged and believe that being a good parent means allowing their children to do whatever they want.

And that's everywhere and in every school, private and public alike.

Am I the only one who thinks it's perfectly fine for my kids to choose whom they want to invite to THEIR bday parties?

(And, I reserve the right to invite a few families and kids I want to invite)

That's exactly what I was thinking, PP.

Ladies, perhaps there is a reason that your little snowflakes are excluded. If they are as insufferable in their conversation as the dialogue in the last few pages of this thread, I think you have your answer.

Mean mom alert! Wouldn't be surprised if your kid is mean. Beauvoir policy is to invite all of the same gender kids in class or 3 or less. It's in the handbook. If you don't like it don't come to the school. Inclusiveness is a goal of the school even though there are a few crackpot parents that are pursuing their own social agenda at the club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, $40,000 for an amazing education and a bump for NCS/STA.

Blatant bullying is not tolerated at Beauvoir, but unfortunately there are relational aggression issues that are more subtle and, therefore, harder for teachers to address. They do their best, but sometimes it's best just to separate kids to break up a persistent dynamic.

So "relational aggression issues" is the $40,000 phrase for "bullying?" I'm gonna remember that one...

Only if you want to be simplistic. Relational aggression is a rather subtle form of bullying. That's why it's harder for teachers to respond to. Teasing, attempts to exclude a child, or other more blatant forms of bullying are immediately addressed at Beauvoir, and the school overall is very sensitive and responsive to that. However, it's harder to tackle the more subtle stuff.

Such as, sorry, I won't be inviting you to my bday party?

If it is, certainly you recognize that there is nothing a teacher can do about that, right? That type of behavior has to be nipped in the bud by the parents.

And, while most Beauvoir parents are wonderful, there are a few who are disengaged and believe that being a good parent means allowing their children to do whatever they want.

And that's everywhere and in every school, private and public alike.

Am I the only one who thinks it's perfectly fine for my kids to choose whom they want to invite to THEIR bday parties?

(And, I reserve the right to invite a few families and kids I want to invite)

That's exactly what I was thinking, PP.

Ladies, perhaps there is a reason that your little snowflakes are excluded. If they are as insufferable in their conversation as the dialogue in the last few pages of this thread, I think you have your answer.

Mean mom alert! Wouldn't be surprised if your kid is mean. Beauvoir policy is to invite all of the same gender kids in class or 3 or less. It's in the handbook. If you don't like it don't come to the school. Inclusiveness is a goal of the school even though there are a few crackpot parents that are pursuing their own social agenda at the club.

My kids are lovely, thank you. And so am I. And FWIW, our school has a similar policy, so this is not exclusive to Beauvoir. But after scanning through these pages of conversation, I think it's odd that OP has never said what the problem is, only that she wants her child moved. OP has never stated "bullying" is the issue, or exclusion of any kind, including "relational aggression." The problem could be the teacher, or one or several of the kids in the class. All of this conversation is just speculation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, $40,000 for an amazing education and a bump for NCS/STA.

Blatant bullying is not tolerated at Beauvoir, but unfortunately there are relational aggression issues that are more subtle and, therefore, harder for teachers to address. They do their best, but sometimes it's best just to separate kids to break up a persistent dynamic.

So "relational aggression issues" is the $40,000 phrase for "bullying?" I'm gonna remember that one...

Only if you want to be simplistic. Relational aggression is a rather subtle form of bullying. That's why it's harder for teachers to respond to. Teasing, attempts to exclude a child, or other more blatant forms of bullying are immediately addressed at Beauvoir, and the school overall is very sensitive and responsive to that. However, it's harder to tackle the more subtle stuff.

Such as, sorry, I won't be inviting you to my bday party?

If it is, certainly you recognize that there is nothing a teacher can do about that, right? That type of behavior has to be nipped in the bud by the parents.

And, while most Beauvoir parents are wonderful, there are a few who are disengaged and believe that being a good parent means allowing their children to do whatever they want.

And that's everywhere and in every school, private and public alike.

Am I the only one who thinks it's perfectly fine for my kids to choose whom they want to invite to THEIR bday parties?

(And, I reserve the right to invite a few families and kids I want to invite)

That's exactly what I was thinking, PP.

Ladies, perhaps there is a reason that your little snowflakes are excluded. If they are as insufferable in their conversation as the dialogue in the last few pages of this thread, I think you have your answer.

Most schools would disagree with you. Beauvoir has an explicit birthday party policy. You can't invite all but a few kids. You can't invite all but one boy or one girl, etc.

I personally agree with this policy.

As for insufferable, within this thread, I think applies exclusively to the PP, whose comment is asinine. Anyone who resorts to calling children snowflakes reveals their degree of immaturity and crassness.

[Anonymous]

How would you (or your kid) feel if you were the only one excluded? While in theory a child should be able to invite who they want to their party, in reality excluding a child is hurtful and can lead to many other problems down the road. If as an adult you want to exclude people, so be it. But in a world where we should be teaching inclusivity, tolerance and acceptance of others to our children it's not OK to teach that their individual desires should trump the well being of the whole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids are lovely, thank you. And so am I. And FWIW, our school has a similar policy, so this is not exclusive to Beauvoir. But after scanning through these pages of conversation, I think it's odd that OP has never said what the problem is, only that she wants her child moved. OP has never stated "bullying" is the issue, or exclusion of any kind, including "relational aggression." The problem could be the teacher, or one or several of the kids in the class. All of this conversation is just speculation.

Your lack of loveliness of course lends no credibility to your claim.

To me, it's pretty clear that OP has said all that she can while still protecting the identity of her child. That's not odd at all. I think it's odd that you think you have the right to details that could compromise a child's privacy. How narcissistic. Believe me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, $40,000 for an amazing education and a bump for NCS/STA.

Blatant bullying is not tolerated at Beauvoir, but unfortunately there are relational aggression issues that are more subtle and, therefore, harder for teachers to address. They do their best, but sometimes it's best just to separate kids to break up a persistent dynamic.

So "relational aggression issues" is the $40,000 phrase for "bullying?" I'm gonna remember that one...

Only if you want to be simplistic. Relational aggression is a rather subtle form of bullying. That's why it's harder for teachers to respond to. Teasing, attempts to exclude a child, or other more blatant forms of bullying are immediately addressed at Beauvoir, and the school overall is very sensitive and responsive to that. However, it's harder to tackle the more subtle stuff.

Such as, sorry, I won't be inviting you to my bday party?

If it is, certainly you recognize that there is nothing a teacher can do about that, right? That type of behavior has to be nipped in the bud by the parents.

And, while most Beauvoir parents are wonderful, there are a few who are disengaged and believe that being a good parent means allowing their children to do whatever they want.

And that's everywhere and in every school, private and public alike.

Am I the only one who thinks it's perfectly fine for my kids to choose whom they want to invite to THEIR bday parties?

(And, I reserve the right to invite a few families and kids I want to invite)

That's exactly what I was thinking, PP.

Ladies, perhaps there is a reason that your little snowflakes are excluded. If they are as insufferable in their conversation as the dialogue in the last few pages of this thread, I think you have your answer.

Most schools would disagree with you. Beauvoir has an explicit birthday party policy. You can't invite all but a few kids. You can't invite all but one boy or one girl, etc.

I personally agree with this policy.

As for insufferable, within this thread, I think applies exclusively to the PP, whose comment is asinine. Anyone who resorts to calling children snowflakes reveals their degree of immaturity and crassness.

I agree with the policy and have always upheld it however I know parents that don't follow it and have no problem announcing it. It should be addressed with them but never will...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, $40,000 for an amazing education and a bump for NCS/STA.

Blatant bullying is not tolerated at Beauvoir, but unfortunately there are relational aggression issues that are more subtle and, therefore, harder for teachers to address. They do their best, but sometimes it's best just to separate kids to break up a persistent dynamic.

So "relational aggression issues" is the $40,000 phrase for "bullying?" I'm gonna remember that one...

Only if you want to be simplistic. Relational aggression is a rather subtle form of bullying. That's why it's harder for teachers to respond to. Teasing, attempts to exclude a child, or other more blatant forms of bullying are immediately addressed at Beauvoir, and the school overall is very sensitive and responsive to that. However, it's harder to tackle the more subtle stuff.

Such as, sorry, I won't be inviting you to my bday party?

If it is, certainly you recognize that there is nothing a teacher can do about that, right? That type of behavior has to be nipped in the bud by the parents.

And, while most Beauvoir parents are wonderful, there are a few who are disengaged and believe that being a good parent means allowing their children to do whatever they want.

And that's everywhere and in every school, private and public alike.

Am I the only one who thinks it's perfectly fine for my kids to choose whom they want to invite to THEIR bday parties?

(And, I reserve the right to invite a few families and kids I want to invite)

That's exactly what I was thinking, PP.

Ladies, perhaps there is a reason that your little snowflakes are excluded. If they are as insufferable in their conversation as the dialogue in the last few pages of this thread, I think you have your answer.

Mean mom alert! Wouldn't be surprised if your kid is mean. Beauvoir policy is to invite all of the same gender kids in class or 3 or less. It's in the handbook. If you don't like it don't come to the school. Inclusiveness is a goal of the school even though there are a few crackpot parents that are pursuing their own social agenda at the club.

I'm the previous PP (previous to the "snowflake" comment--which I'd never make).

Sorry, but I don't outsource my judgement or my kids' judgement to some school handbook.

Our parties are very fun and extremely open, yet we allow our kids to make their own mistakes and to learn from them. Life is a 100-year marathon. Unless truly necessary, I don't impose my views (much less some random handbook) on other people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm the previous PP (previous to the "snowflake" comment--which I'd never make).

Sorry, but I don't outsource my judgement or my kids' judgement to some school handbook.

Our parties are very fun and extremely open, yet we allow our kids to make their own mistakes and to learn from them. Life is a 100-year marathon. Unless truly necessary, I don't impose my views (much less some random handbook) on other people.

Well, your moral and ethical compass are somewhat skewed. Most Beauvoir parents comply with the provisions in the handbook. Not because they've "outsourced judgment," but because they agree that tolerance and inclusion are more important than the birthday child getting their way.

What relevance is the idea that a party is "fun and extremely open" if kids are included and you allow them to "make their own mistakes"? If you're applying this to elementary school kids, you're actually sanctioning hurtful behavior.

I might make an exception for a child who is physically aggressive (after age 6 or so) or who is a bully -- and I would make it clear to my child's teachers and the parents of the child why they were not invited -- but otherwise I don't think there's an excuse for excluding an 8-year old child in order to let your child "make their own mistakes," or, put another way, be a hurtful jerk.

[Anonymous]

oops... that was supposed to read if kids are EXcluded.

[Anonymous]

$35K a year will it ever end? Just leave the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm the previous PP (previous to the "snowflake" comment--which I'd never make).

Sorry, but I don't outsource my judgement or my kids' judgement to some school handbook.

Our parties are very fun and extremely open, yet we allow our kids to make their own mistakes and to learn from them. Life is a 100-year marathon. Unless truly necessary, I don't impose my views (much less some random handbook) on other people.

Well, your moral and ethical compass are somewhat skewed. Most Beauvoir parents comply with the provisions in the handbook. Not because they've "outsourced judgment," but because they agree that tolerance and inclusion are more important than the birthday child getting their way.

What relevance is the idea that a party is "fun and extremely open" if kids are included and you allow them to "make their own mistakes"? If you're applying this to elementary school kids, you're actually sanctioning hurtful behavior.

I might make an exception for a child who is physically aggressive (after age 6 or so) or who is a bully -- and I would make it clear to my child's teachers and the parents of the child why they were not invited -- but otherwise I don't think there's an excuse for excluding an 8-year old child in order to let your child "make their own mistakes," or, put another way, be a hurtful jerk.

Well, I respect your opinions and preferences.

Will you respect mine?