Split articulation (bussing) for the new BCC Middle School?

[Anonymous]

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Were you alive when RHPS went anywhere but B-CC? It's been like that forever.
- someone who went to CCES

Since 1976, apparently.

http://www.nytimes.com/1982/03/01/us/minority-parents-fight-maryland-school-panel.html

I was alive then, but living in a different state where busing was quite more "stark" than RHPS/CCES in both diversity of students and distance of bus ride, and I had a great (I think "normal") experience. In our current home, kids currently are planned to go to CCES and Westland. I am happy for my kids to go to either Westland or the new middle school, as both will be great regardless of where boundary lines are drawn, but would prefer the new school purely based on a shorter commute time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are six (of seven) elementary schools in the BCC cluster that feed into Middle Schools. There is one elementary school in the BCC cluster, Rosemary Hills, that goes through grade 2, and feeds into two elementary schools. Rosemary Hills is an example of "split articulation" where 2nd graders go to either Chevy Chase Elementary or North Chevy Chase Elementary for 3rd grade.

Currently, Westland is the only MS in the cluster and the only school that feeds to B-CC High School. So, the diversity at Westland and B-CC is identical.

Here is a list of the current elementary schools, and grades at which they feed to Westland.

Westbrook, ends at 5th, 6th to Westland
Somerset, ends at 5th, 6th to Westland
Bethesda, ends at 5th, 6th to Westland
Chevy Chase, ends at 6th, 7th to Westland
North Chevy Chase, ends at 6th, 7th to Westland
Rock Creek Forest, ends at 5th, 6th to Westland, has Spanish Immersion students.

Everyone, at least everyone on DCUM seems convinced of the following:

NCC and CC elementary will end at 5th grade. Everyone including MCPS agrees on that. 6th graders will go to new BCC MS #2. Remember, NCC & CC have the Rosemary Hills neighborhood students as well, so the Rosemary Hills students will go to BCC MS #2 via the NCC & CC.

Westbrook & Somerset (probably the two highest SES schools in the cluster, because of the Rosemary Hills SES dilution of CC & NCC) will stay at Westland. Geographic proximity.

That leaves Bethesda Elementary & Rock Creek Forest Elementary. Assuming no split articulation, one will continue to feed to Westland, the other will feed to BCC MS #2.

The tension seems to be that Rock Creek Forest has more SES diversity, but is closer to BCC MS#2, so that having it continue to feed to Westland would be to maintain more economic diversity at Westland.

But, the choice seems to come down to:

Bethesda Elementary to Westland; Rock Creek Forest to BCC MS #1

OR

Bethesda Elementary to BCC MS #1; Rock Creek Forest to Westland

OR

Split articulations

BE is getting much more diverse of late, and will continue on this track with more apartments coming to Bethesda.

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Anonymous wrote:We're in the NCC zone and I didn't understand the survey. Can someone explain how split articulation for the new middle school would work in theory - understanding that it's purely theoretical now.

We love RHES, but it does suck for the kids to have bus commutes and get separated from friends when none of the rest of Bethesda is subject to this kind of gerrymandering. So I'm inherently negative on split articulation, but I don't quite understand how they would carry it out for the new middle school.

Where to start with this, "the rest of Bethesda" did you mean Bethesda? Also you realize that Rosemary hills doesn't quite fit because it is the gerrymandered part of the equation. If you think they are being unreasonable you could request to go to your home school Einstein, if people insist on clinging on to something they couldn't otherwise afford or belong they really shouldn't complaine on how they are accommodated.

WTF PP? Our "home school" isn't Einstein. We're in Chevy Chase MD in the NCC zone, which feeds into BCC. I like both RHPS and NCC but I don't understand why this one corner of Bethesda/Chevy Chase is subject to busing for desegregation purposes whereas no one is proposing to breakup neighborhood elementaries in other parts of Bethesda/Chevy Chase.

To PPs point if Rosemary hills can go all the way to Westland why can't Westbrook go all the way to BCC #2.

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Anonymous wrote:We're in the NCC zone and I didn't understand the survey. Can someone explain how split articulation for the new middle school would work in theory - understanding that it's purely theoretical now.

We love RHES, but it does suck for the kids to have bus commutes and get separated from friends when none of the rest of Bethesda is subject to this kind of gerrymandering. So I'm inherently negative on split articulation, but I don't quite understand how they would carry it out for the new middle school.

Where to start with this, "the rest of Bethesda" did you mean Bethesda? Also you realize that Rosemary hills doesn't quite fit because it is the gerrymandered part of the equation. If you think they are being unreasonable you could request to go to your home school Einstein, if people insist on clinging on to something they couldn't otherwise afford or belong they really shouldn't complaine on how they are accommodated.

WTF PP? Our "home school" isn't Einstein. We're in Chevy Chase MD in the NCC zone, which feeds into BCC. I like both RHPS and NCC but I don't understand why this one corner of Bethesda/Chevy Chase is subject to busing for desegregation purposes whereas no one is proposing to breakup neighborhood elementaries in other parts of Bethesda/Chevy Chase.

To PPs point if Rosemary hills can go all the way to Westland why can't Westbrook go all the way to BCC #2.

Because one of the goals of the new middle school was to cut down on the distances traveled by the students. We are not at Westland yet but I live right near NCC and my dad lives next to Westland. It takes FOREVER to get there and back on a weekday afternoon. Keep in mind that expanding Westland was on the list of options that could relieve the overcrowding there and the county chose to open a new school instead. Because the traffic makes getting from one corner of the cluster to the other very difficult. This is not as much of a problem with B-CC since it is right in the middle of the cluster.

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Anonymous wrote:We're in the NCC zone and I didn't understand the survey. Can someone explain how split articulation for the new middle school would work in theory - understanding that it's purely theoretical now.

We love RHES, but it does suck for the kids to have bus commutes and get separated from friends when none of the rest of Bethesda is subject to this kind of gerrymandering. So I'm inherently negative on split articulation, but I don't quite understand how they would carry it out for the new middle school.

Where to start with this, "the rest of Bethesda" did you mean Bethesda? Also you realize that Rosemary hills doesn't quite fit because it is the gerrymandered part of the equation. If you think they are being unreasonable you could request to go to your home school Einstein, if people insist on clinging on to something they couldn't otherwise afford or belong they really shouldn't complaine on how they are accommodated.

WTF PP? Our "home school" isn't Einstein. We're in Chevy Chase MD in the NCC zone, which feeds into BCC. I like both RHPS and NCC but I don't understand why this one corner of Bethesda/Chevy Chase is subject to busing for desegregation purposes whereas no one is proposing to breakup neighborhood elementaries in other parts of Bethesda/Chevy Chase.

To PPs point if Rosemary hills can go all the way to Westland why can't Westbrook go all the way to BCC #2.

Because one of the goals of the new middle school was to cut down on the distances traveled by the students. We are not at Westland yet but I live right near NCC and my dad lives next to Westland. It takes FOREVER to get there and back on a weekday afternoon. Keep in mind that expanding Westland was on the list of options that could relieve the overcrowding there and the county chose to open a new school instead. Because the traffic makes getting from one corner of the cluster to the other very difficult. This is not as much of a problem with B-CC since it is right in the middle of the cluster.

Thanks. I'm actually leaning heavily towards sending students from the 3 closest schools to the new MS regardless of makeup of school.

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I guess I dont see why having to travel 30 min to school is such a big deal. I grew up going to private school and always had a 30 min commute to school. My kids are young now but I commute with them daily for over 30min to daycare. We live in the cluster and I think what is most important is ensuring both schools are equally as good and have the same expectations and ability to prepare kids to succeed at BCC and beyond.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We're in the NCC zone and I didn't understand the survey. Can someone explain how split articulation for the new middle school would work in theory - understanding that it's purely theoretical now.

We love RHES, but it does suck for the kids to have bus commutes and get separated from friends when none of the rest of Bethesda is subject to this kind of gerrymandering. So I'm inherently negative on split articulation, but I don't quite understand how they would carry it out for the new middle school.

Where to start with this, "the rest of Bethesda" did you mean Bethesda? Also you realize that Rosemary hills doesn't quite fit because it is the gerrymandered part of the equation. If you think they are being unreasonable you could request to go to your home school Einstein, if people insist on clinging on to something they couldn't otherwise afford or belong they really shouldn't complaine on how they are accommodated.

WTF PP? Our "home school" isn't Einstein. We're in Chevy Chase MD in the NCC zone, which feeds into BCC. I like both RHPS and NCC but I don't understand why this one corner of Bethesda/Chevy Chase is subject to busing for desegregation purposes whereas no one is proposing to breakup neighborhood elementaries in other parts of Bethesda/Chevy Chase.

To PPs point if Rosemary hills can go all the way to Westland why can't Westbrook go all the way to BCC #2.

Because one of the goals of the new middle school was to cut down on the distances traveled by the students. We are not at Westland yet but I live right near NCC and my dad lives next to Westland. It takes FOREVER to get there and back on a weekday afternoon. Keep in mind that expanding Westland was on the list of options that could relieve the overcrowding there and the county chose to open a new school instead. Because the traffic makes getting from one corner of the cluster to the other very difficult. This is not as much of a problem with B-CC since it is right in the middle of the cluster.

Thanks. I'm actually leaning heavily towards sending students from the 3 closest schools to the new MS regardless of makeup of school.

Not going to happen. I agree that there will be some sort of split

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess I dont see why having to travel 30 min to school is such a big deal. I grew up going to private school and always had a 30 min commute to school. My kids are young now but I commute with them daily for over 30min to daycare. We live in the cluster and I think what is most important is ensuring both schools are equally as good and have the same expectations and ability to prepare kids to succeed at BCC and beyond.

Is not just the students commute, it is prohibitive to parent evolvement particularly for lower income.

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Anonymous wrote:We're in the NCC zone and I didn't understand the survey. Can someone explain how split articulation for the new middle school would work in theory - understanding that it's purely theoretical now.

We love RHES, but it does suck for the kids to have bus commutes and get separated from friends when none of the rest of Bethesda is subject to this kind of gerrymandering. So I'm inherently negative on split articulation, but I don't quite understand how they would carry it out for the new middle school.

Where to start with this, "the rest of Bethesda" did you mean Bethesda? Also you realize that Rosemary hills doesn't quite fit because it is the gerrymandered part of the equation. If you think they are being unreasonable you could request to go to your home school Einstein, if people insist on clinging on to something they couldn't otherwise afford or belong they really shouldn't complaine on how they are accommodated.

WTF PP? Our "home school" isn't Einstein. We're in Chevy Chase MD in the NCC zone, which feeds into BCC. I like both RHPS and NCC but I don't understand why this one corner of Bethesda/Chevy Chase is subject to busing for desegregation purposes whereas no one is proposing to breakup neighborhood elementaries in other parts of Bethesda/Chevy Chase.

To PPs point if Rosemary hills can go all the way to Westland why can't Westbrook go all the way to BCC #2.

Because one of the goals of the new middle school was to cut down on the distances traveled by the students. We are not at Westland yet but I live right near NCC and my dad lives next to Westland. It takes FOREVER to get there and back on a weekday afternoon. Keep in mind that expanding Westland was on the list of options that could relieve the overcrowding there and the county chose to open a new school instead. Because the traffic makes getting from one corner of the cluster to the other very difficult. This is not as much of a problem with B-CC since it is right in the middle of the cluster.

Thanks. I'm actually leaning heavily towards sending students from the 3 closest schools to the new MS regardless of makeup of school.

Not going to happen. I agree that there will be some sort of split

Can they redraw lines? That might solve some of the problems...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I dont see why having to travel 30 min to school is such a big deal. I grew up going to private school and always had a 30 min commute to school. My kids are young now but I commute with them daily for over 30min to daycare. We live in the cluster and I think what is most important is ensuring both schools are equally as good and have the same expectations and ability to prepare kids to succeed at BCC and beyond.

Is not just the students commute, it is prohibitive to parent evolvement particularly for lower income.

They are already busing, the question is if convenience is worth undoing the spirt of the desegregation that was imposed by the courts at the middle school level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We're in the NCC zone and I didn't understand the survey. Can someone explain how split articulation for the new middle school would work in theory - understanding that it's purely theoretical now.

We love RHES, but it does suck for the kids to have bus commutes and get separated from friends when none of the rest of Bethesda is subject to this kind of gerrymandering. So I'm inherently negative on split articulation, but I don't quite understand how they would carry it out for the new middle school.

Where to start with this, "the rest of Bethesda" did you mean Bethesda? Also you realize that Rosemary hills doesn't quite fit because it is the gerrymandered part of the equation. If you think they are being unreasonable you could request to go to your home school Einstein, if people insist on clinging on to something they couldn't otherwise afford or belong they really shouldn't complaine on how they are accommodated.

WTF PP? Our "home school" isn't Einstein. We're in Chevy Chase MD in the NCC zone, which feeds into BCC. I like both RHPS and NCC but I don't understand why this one corner of Bethesda/Chevy Chase is subject to busing for desegregation purposes whereas no one is proposing to breakup neighborhood elementaries in other parts of Bethesda/Chevy Chase.

To PPs point if Rosemary hills can go all the way to Westland why can't Westbrook go all the way to BCC #2.

Because one of the goals of the new middle school was to cut down on the distances traveled by the students. We are not at Westland yet but I live right near NCC and my dad lives next to Westland. It takes FOREVER to get there and back on a weekday afternoon. Keep in mind that expanding Westland was on the list of options that could relieve the overcrowding there and the county chose to open a new school instead. Because the traffic makes getting from one corner of the cluster to the other very difficult. This is not as much of a problem with B-CC since it is right in the middle of the cluster.

Thanks. I'm actually leaning heavily towards sending students from the 3 closest schools to the new MS regardless of makeup of school.

Not going to happen. I agree that there will be some sort of split

Can they redraw lines? That might solve some of the problems...

Ha, what a bad idea. You think this is contentious wait until they try that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We're in the NCC zone and I didn't understand the survey. Can someone explain how split articulation for the new middle school would work in theory - understanding that it's purely theoretical now.

We love RHES, but it does suck for the kids to have bus commutes and get separated from friends when none of the rest of Bethesda is subject to this kind of gerrymandering. So I'm inherently negative on split articulation, but I don't quite understand how they would carry it out for the new middle school.

Where to start with this, "the rest of Bethesda" did you mean Bethesda? Also you realize that Rosemary hills doesn't quite fit because it is the gerrymandered part of the equation. If you think they are being unreasonable you could request to go to your home school Einstein, if people insist on clinging on to something they couldn't otherwise afford or belong they really shouldn't complaine on how they are accommodated.

WTF PP? Our "home school" isn't Einstein. We're in Chevy Chase MD in the NCC zone, which feeds into BCC. I like both RHPS and NCC but I don't understand why this one corner of Bethesda/Chevy Chase is subject to busing for desegregation purposes whereas no one is proposing to breakup neighborhood elementaries in other parts of Bethesda/Chevy Chase.

To PPs point if Rosemary hills can go all the way to Westland why can't Westbrook go all the way to BCC #2.

Because one of the goals of the new middle school was to cut down on the distances traveled by the students. We are not at Westland yet but I live right near NCC and my dad lives next to Westland. It takes FOREVER to get there and back on a weekday afternoon. Keep in mind that expanding Westland was on the list of options that could relieve the overcrowding there and the county chose to open a new school instead. Because the traffic makes getting from one corner of the cluster to the other very difficult. This is not as much of a problem with B-CC since it is right in the middle of the cluster.

Thanks. I'm actually leaning heavily towards sending students from the 3 closest schools to the new MS regardless of makeup of school.

Not going to happen. I agree that there will be some sort of split

Can they redraw lines? That might solve some of the problems...

Ha, what a bad idea. You think this is contentious wait until they try that.

Well the results may be better

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We're in the NCC zone and I didn't understand the survey. Can someone explain how split articulation for the new middle school would work in theory - understanding that it's purely theoretical now.

We love RHES, but it does suck for the kids to have bus commutes and get separated from friends when none of the rest of Bethesda is subject to this kind of gerrymandering. So I'm inherently negative on split articulation, but I don't quite understand how they would carry it out for the new middle school.

Where to start with this, "the rest of Bethesda" did you mean Bethesda? Also you realize that Rosemary hills doesn't quite fit because it is the gerrymandered part of the equation. If you think they are being unreasonable you could request to go to your home school Einstein, if people insist on clinging on to something they couldn't otherwise afford or belong they really shouldn't complaine on how they are accommodated.

WTF PP? Our "home school" isn't Einstein. We're in Chevy Chase MD in the NCC zone, which feeds into BCC. I like both RHPS and NCC but I don't understand why this one corner of Bethesda/Chevy Chase is subject to busing for desegregation purposes whereas no one is proposing to breakup neighborhood elementaries in other parts of Bethesda/Chevy Chase.

To PPs point if Rosemary hills can go all the way to Westland why can't Westbrook go all the way to BCC #2.

Because one of the goals of the new middle school was to cut down on the distances traveled by the students. We are not at Westland yet but I live right near NCC and my dad lives next to Westland. It takes FOREVER to get there and back on a weekday afternoon. Keep in mind that expanding Westland was on the list of options that could relieve the overcrowding there and the county chose to open a new school instead. Because the traffic makes getting from one corner of the cluster to the other very difficult. This is not as much of a problem with B-CC since it is right in the middle of the cluster.

Thanks. I'm actually leaning heavily towards sending students from the 3 closest schools to the new MS regardless of makeup of school.

Not going to happen. I agree that there will be some sort of split

Can they redraw lines? That might solve some of the problems...

Ha, what a bad idea. You think this is contentious wait until they try that.

Well the results may be better

Oh? How so? Please be specific.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We're in the NCC zone and I didn't understand the survey. Can someone explain how split articulation for the new middle school would work in theory - understanding that it's purely theoretical now.

We love RHES, but it does suck for the kids to have bus commutes and get separated from friends when none of the rest of Bethesda is subject to this kind of gerrymandering. So I'm inherently negative on split articulation, but I don't quite understand how they would carry it out for the new middle school.

Where to start with this, "the rest of Bethesda" did you mean Bethesda? Also you realize that Rosemary hills doesn't quite fit because it is the gerrymandered part of the equation. If you think they are being unreasonable you could request to go to your home school Einstein, if people insist on clinging on to something they couldn't otherwise afford or belong they really shouldn't complaine on how they are accommodated.

WTF PP? Our "home school" isn't Einstein. We're in Chevy Chase MD in the NCC zone, which feeds into BCC. I like both RHPS and NCC but I don't understand why this one corner of Bethesda/Chevy Chase is subject to busing for desegregation purposes whereas no one is proposing to breakup neighborhood elementaries in other parts of Bethesda/Chevy Chase.

To PPs point if Rosemary hills can go all the way to Westland why can't Westbrook go all the way to BCC #2.

Because one of the goals of the new middle school was to cut down on the distances traveled by the students. We are not at Westland yet but I live right near NCC and my dad lives next to Westland. It takes FOREVER to get there and back on a weekday afternoon. Keep in mind that expanding Westland was on the list of options that could relieve the overcrowding there and the county chose to open a new school instead. Because the traffic makes getting from one corner of the cluster to the other very difficult. This is not as much of a problem with B-CC since it is right in the middle of the cluster.

Thanks. I'm actually leaning heavily towards sending students from the 3 closest schools to the new MS regardless of makeup of school.

Not going to happen. I agree that there will be some sort of split

Can they redraw lines? That might solve some of the problems...

Ha, what a bad idea. You think this is contentious wait until they try that.

Well the results may be better

Oh? How so? Please be specific.

Putting RHES in the DCC

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Anonymous wrote:We're in the NCC zone and I didn't understand the survey. Can someone explain how split articulation for the new middle school would work in theory - understanding that it's purely theoretical now.

We love RHES, but it does suck for the kids to have bus commutes and get separated from friends when none of the rest of Bethesda is subject to this kind of gerrymandering. So I'm inherently negative on split articulation, but I don't quite understand how they would carry it out for the new middle school.

Where to start with this, "the rest of Bethesda" did you mean Bethesda? Also you realize that Rosemary hills doesn't quite fit because it is the gerrymandered part of the equation. If you think they are being unreasonable you could request to go to your home school Einstein, if people insist on clinging on to something they couldn't otherwise afford or belong they really shouldn't complaine on how they are accommodated.

WTF PP? Our "home school" isn't Einstein. We're in Chevy Chase MD in the NCC zone, which feeds into BCC. I like both RHPS and NCC but I don't understand why this one corner of Bethesda/Chevy Chase is subject to busing for desegregation purposes whereas no one is proposing to breakup neighborhood elementaries in other parts of Bethesda/Chevy Chase.

To PPs point if Rosemary hills can go all the way to Westland why can't Westbrook go all the way to BCC #2.

Because one of the goals of the new middle school was to cut down on the distances traveled by the students. We are not at Westland yet but I live right near NCC and my dad lives next to Westland. It takes FOREVER to get there and back on a weekday afternoon. Keep in mind that expanding Westland was on the list of options that could relieve the overcrowding there and the county chose to open a new school instead. Because the traffic makes getting from one corner of the cluster to the other very difficult. This is not as much of a problem with B-CC since it is right in the middle of the cluster.

Thanks. I'm actually leaning heavily towards sending students from the 3 closest schools to the new MS regardless of makeup of school.

Not going to happen. I agree that there will be some sort of split

Can they redraw lines? That might solve some of the problems...

Ha, what a bad idea. You think this is contentious wait until they try that.

Well the results may be better

Oh? How so? Please be specific.

Putting RHES in the DCC

And how would that be better?